Woj: Utah Plans on Rebuilding Around Donovan Mitchell; How Long Before He Wants Out?
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I can see Ainge helping a KD to PHX trade and I can also see him stealing Ayton away. If it's the latter, even better for NBA drama. I don't see PHX having enough to trade for KD unless they give up Booker. And that would mean the Nets also have to give away Simmons for pennies on the dollar as well.
And if PHX did give up Booker (they would be stupid to do so), I don't think PHX has enough to realistically compete. Also, CP3 is on father time watch. He's already been injury prone, but it's bound to get AD levels pretty soon. So does Miami swoop in at that point with Herro and BAM? Maybe Miami ends up taking on Simmons too to work around this?
Simmons, Curry & KD
for
Bam
Lowry
Robinson
Herro
Lowry would assuredly ask for a buyout, so they would need some picks too. Would Miami have enough at that point to be attractive?
Vincent
Butler
Simmons
Durant
Whiteside? Yurt?
I don't know if that's championship caliber.
And if PHX did give up Booker (they would be stupid to do so), I don't think PHX has enough to realistically compete. Also, CP3 is on father time watch. He's already been injury prone, but it's bound to get AD levels pretty soon. So does Miami swoop in at that point with Herro and BAM? Maybe Miami ends up taking on Simmons too to work around this?
Simmons, Curry & KD
for
Bam
Lowry
Robinson
Herro
Lowry would assuredly ask for a buyout, so they would need some picks too. Would Miami have enough at that point to be attractive?
Vincent
Butler
Simmons
Durant
Whiteside? Yurt?
I don't know if that's championship caliber.
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dockingsched wrote:Who cares if he wants out, Utah would be better off selling high on him too, specially if they’re able to completely rob another team too just like the wolves.
No kidding… it was an absurd amount of picks.
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Big J wrote:dc wrote:Knowing how Ainge works, Mitchell isn't going to play another game for the Jazz.
He's Danny Warchest for a reason and he's looking for more assets.
Why didn't Danny ever trade Tatum or Brown then?
Because Tatum and Brown were all-star 2 way players who were young and still had plenty of time to get better and for the team to build around them. It's why Stevens didn't trade them, either, when everyone thought he'd make a big move when he took over.
Gobert 30 years old, limited on one end of the floor and his timeline didn't quite match Mitchell's. Mitchell is still young, but he doesn't have a guy to pair with him on the same timeline.
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well kessler is a typical utah center for sure. lol
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Catchall wrote:Jazz may be listening to offers on Mitchell. If something big comes in, they might consider.
I think this is just negotiation. Mitchell surrounded by these roles players isn't accomplishing anything in the West.
They are much better off just tearing it all down.
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There's no point in keeping Mitchell. They won't make the playoffs. Mitchell isn't great enough. They should tank as fast as possible and keeping Mitchell will just delay things.
Could be just a way to get better offers
Could be just a way to get better offers
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rapstarter wrote:I think they should fully commit to rebuild and even tank for Wembanyama. Their last 2 trades set them up for the next 10 years.
and trading Mitchell would give them a huge head start. If Gobert got them 5 picks, then Mitchell would get at least that plus some young guys.
Go Knicks!
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Catchall wrote:If Ainge's leverage hits a high point--like Paul George being the hold-up for Kawhi signing in free agency--then Ainge may pull the trigger. However, he may also give his new coach a chance to see what Mitchell looks like with a different team around him.
He isn’t the GM though.
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Heat3 wrote:Catchall wrote:If Ainge's leverage hits a high point--like Paul George being the hold-up for Kawhi signing in free agency--then Ainge may pull the trigger. However, he may also give his new coach a chance to see what Mitchell looks like with a different team around him.
He isn’t the GM though.
No, he's the GM's boss who signs off on all decisions.
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Cant trade bam in a deal for kd.nitetrain8603 wrote:I can see Ainge helping a KD to PHX trade and I can also see him stealing Ayton away. If it's the latter, even better for NBA drama. I don't see PHX having enough to trade for KD unless they give up Booker. And that would mean the Nets also have to give away Simmons for pennies on the dollar as well.
And if PHX did give up Booker (they would be stupid to do so), I don't think PHX has enough to realistically compete. Also, CP3 is on father time watch. He's already been injury prone, but it's bound to get AD levels pretty soon. So does Miami swoop in at that point with Herro and BAM? Maybe Miami ends up taking on Simmons too to work around this?
Simmons, Curry & KD
for
Bam
Lowry
Robinson
Herro
Lowry would assuredly ask for a buyout, so they would need some picks too. Would Miami have enough at that point to be attractive?
Vincent
Butler
Simmons
Durant
Whiteside? Yurt?
I don't know if that's championship caliber.
Some contractual bs that has it violating some rule.
Miami out.
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The Gobert and micthell fued is over . So he will have better attitude . Think he stays around until 2025
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Think Plan A for Ainge should be to retool quickly around Mitchell. With Durant available - he will surely try.
If not possible - auction for Mitchell is surely coming.
If not possible - auction for Mitchell is surely coming.
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canada_dry wrote:Cant trade bam in a deal for kd.nitetrain8603 wrote:I can see Ainge helping a KD to PHX trade and I can also see him stealing Ayton away. If it's the latter, even better for NBA drama. I don't see PHX having enough to trade for KD unless they give up Booker. And that would mean the Nets also have to give away Simmons for pennies on the dollar as well.
And if PHX did give up Booker (they would be stupid to do so), I don't think PHX has enough to realistically compete. Also, CP3 is on father time watch. He's already been injury prone, but it's bound to get AD levels pretty soon. So does Miami swoop in at that point with Herro and BAM? Maybe Miami ends up taking on Simmons too to work around this?
Simmons, Curry & KD
for
Bam
Lowry
Robinson
Herro
Lowry would assuredly ask for a buyout, so they would need some picks too. Would Miami have enough at that point to be attractive?
Vincent
Butler
Simmons
Durant
Whiteside? Yurt?
I don't know if that's championship caliber.
Some contractual bs that has it violating some rule.
Miami out.
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They can't if they have Simmons on the roster. So they would have to trade away Simmons first in a separate deal or trade him in the same deal. That would get around that rule.
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He doesn't have to do anything now. He can wait and see how things are at the deadline or next summer. Better to be patient.
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Mitchell wanted Gobert gone and now he is unhappy? They aquired a **** of tradeable assets and can sign Ayton too.
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Good luck with that lol. Lose simmons just to accept a subpar heat offer lol.nitetrain8603 wrote:canada_dry wrote:Cant trade bam in a deal for kd.nitetrain8603 wrote:I can see Ainge helping a KD to PHX trade and I can also see him stealing Ayton away. If it's the latter, even better for NBA drama. I don't see PHX having enough to trade for KD unless they give up Booker. And that would mean the Nets also have to give away Simmons for pennies on the dollar as well.
And if PHX did give up Booker (they would be stupid to do so), I don't think PHX has enough to realistically compete. Also, CP3 is on father time watch. He's already been injury prone, but it's bound to get AD levels pretty soon. So does Miami swoop in at that point with Herro and BAM? Maybe Miami ends up taking on Simmons too to work around this?
Simmons, Curry & KD
for
Bam
Lowry
Robinson
Herro
Lowry would assuredly ask for a buyout, so they would need some picks too. Would Miami have enough at that point to be attractive?
Vincent
Butler
Simmons
Durant
Whiteside? Yurt?
I don't know if that's championship caliber.
Some contractual bs that has it violating some rule.
Miami out.
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They can't if they have Simmons on the roster. So they would have to trade away Simmons first in a separate deal or trade him in the same deal. That would get around that rule.
They're gonna wanna have simmons post kd era.
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Catchall wrote:Heat3 wrote:Catchall wrote:If Ainge's leverage hits a high point--like Paul George being the hold-up for Kawhi signing in free agency--then Ainge may pull the trigger. However, he may also give his new coach a chance to see what Mitchell looks like with a different team around him.
He isn’t the GM though.
No, he's the GM's boss who signs off on all decisions.
What is the nature of the organization? I don’t think you can assume that he is micromanaging the GM or not or has to sign off on anything. Some people wouldn’t take a GM job under those conditions.
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Roy T wrote:Mitchell wanted Gobert gone and now he is unhappy? They aquired a **** of tradeable assets and can sign Ayton too.
Mitchell and Gobert and the rest of the Jazz before yesterday = ok defensive team.
Mitchell and Ayton and the rest of the Jazz as of now = worst defensive team in the league.