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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#321 » by nitetrain8603 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:42 pm

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Posted something similar on the General Board in the Utah thread. Nets are going to want Booker or Bam as a starting point because the rest is meh from those teams. And in order to even do that, they have to give away Ben Simmons. Literally, give him away so they're eligible to get one of those players.

Let's say they do give away Ben, and Miami or PHX is willing to part with Booker or Bam (they won't), then will KD want to play with them? Heck no. In addition to giving up their depth, picks and a star that would make them legit contenders, there's not much else for KD to play with.

That's why I think the Bulls are top 3 in odds to land KD and I think they can send the package that works for the Nets, Bulls and KD.

Vuc
PWill
Coby/Ayo
Ball
and a few firsts

for Durant and Seth.

You still end up with:
Drummond
Durant
DeRozan
LaVine
Curry

Caruso
Terry
White/Ayo
Bradley
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#322 » by HomoSapien » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:45 pm

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We're one of the few teams that can make a competitive offer for KD without gutting what made us competitive.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#323 » by weneeda2guard » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:45 pm

The "historic haul" the nets want, just might not be out there. The teams who can give the nets that kind of haul Durant wouldn't want to join. The teams Durant would want to join won't have the historic haul. Then if the team does give it all up for Durant Durant would then be joining a team with not enough to compete for a title with him. Somewhere someone is going to have to bend.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#324 » by Chi town » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:48 pm

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r1terrell23 wrote:The only path we have to being relevant and winning a title is by bringing in Durant. He may only be really good for 3 more years, but it's our only option.


The only path? Come on, that's ridiculous. That line of thinking is what emboldens organizations like Minnesota to send out 5 future 1sts & a bunch of key rotational pieces for someone like Gobert out of desperation. Now their only path to winning a title is indeed through Gobert.

How do you think organizations like Toronto and Miami stay relevant? They stay competitive. They tread water, develop young players, build culture. They stay patient through the ups-and-downs and wait for the right opportunities to be aggressive buyers. Hell, GSW retooled with Wiggins + Poole and won another title. Funny how that works.

I'm not saying Durant isn't worth pursuing, but this fanbase spends far too much time catastrophizing every minor setback, real and perceived, without thinking rationally in the context of the broader future.

The NBA is turning itself upside down every single offseason nowadays. The landscape of the league is evolving. Durant won't be the only opportunity. There will inevitably be another disgruntled star in due time.

We have to maximize investment in player development because two things can happen: we have enough valuable assets to consolidate our talent further at the top in the future or or we develop our next core.


This.

Don’t force it.

You only trade for KD if you can keep Zach and DDR with KD.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#325 » by HomoSapien » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:52 pm

Just to elaborate, I don't see why the Nets would agree to trade Durant to Miami without getting Bam back, especially if they have to stomach Duncan Robinson's contracting the process (which they will). Even having to take Lowry back isn't great considering how big his contract is. It's not long-term but it'll be hard to move.

The Suns will have an easier time matching salaries, but supposedly the Nets aren't interested in Ayton. A package of Bridges and picks doesn't seem like a great haul to me. I like Bridges as much as the next guy, but he seems more like a super role player than a rebuilding piece.

Pat Williams seems like a better high-upside gamble if you're the Nets.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#326 » by r1terrell23 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:53 pm

DxC17 wrote:
r1terrell23 wrote:The only path we have to being relevant and winning a title is by bringing in Durant. He may only be really good for 3 more years, but it's our only option.


The only path? Come on, that's ridiculous. That line of thinking is what emboldens organizations like Minnesota to send out 5 future 1sts & a bunch of key rotational pieces for someone like Gobert out of desperation. Now their only path to winning a title is indeed through Gobert.

How do you think organizations like Toronto and Miami stay relevant? They stay competitive. They tread water, develop young players, build culture. They stay patient through the ups-and-downs and wait for the right opportunities to be aggressive buyers. Hell, GSW retooled with Wiggins + Poole and won another title. Funny how that works.

I'm not saying Durant isn't worth pursuing, but this fanbase spends far too much time catastrophizing every minor setback, real and perceived, without thinking rationally in the context of the broader future.

The NBA is turning itself upside down every single offseason nowadays. The landscape of the league is evolving. Durant won't be the only opportunity. There will inevitably be another disgruntled star in due time.

We have to maximize investment in player development because two things can happen: we have enough valuable assets to consolidate our talent further at the top in the future or or we develop our next core.

A few things.

I believe we can get Durant and keep Zach/DDR.

Toronto was relevant when they got Leonard. No one cared about them before and after.

Miami become super relevant because of LeBron. Wade and Shaq had a great year too though.

We can try player development, but teams with top 5 players win. If you have a chance to get Durant, you could instantly put yourself into the title conversation.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#327 » by Chi town » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:57 pm

Only way Suns get KD is if they send Ayton to a 3rd team that coughs up picks.

We could include Terry, POR pick, and one CHI future 1st. I think PW will be better than any of the young players supposedly being talked about.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#328 » by PJSteven22 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:58 pm

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We're one of the few teams that can make a competitive offer for KD without gutting what made us competitive.

What would that deal look like? I’d hope so because pickings are slim.
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Post#329 » by ChicagoStrong » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:06 pm

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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#330 » by FriedRise » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:08 pm

Yup, basically the guys not in Zach’s IG video.
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Post#331 » by Pax for Prez » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:09 pm

Chi town wrote:Only way Suns get KD is if they send Ayton to a 3rd team that coughs up picks.

We could include Terry, POR pick, and one CHI future 1st. I think PW will be better than any of the young players supposedly being talked about.


Ayton to Utah for a couple picks works.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#332 » by TheGOATRises007 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:21 pm

If you can get Durant while keeping Lonzo/Caruso, I'd 1000% do it.

I just think we should try and trade DeMar while his value is somewhat high though.

Not too sure how KD/DeMar/LaVine fit hypothetically. I don't think that's a good fit.

Caruso/Lonzo/LaVine/KD/Defensive C would be ideal.

And you have to hope KD's massive struggles vs the Celtics were an outlier, because he was very poor.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#333 » by MisterRoy » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:23 pm

Pax for Prez wrote:
Chi town wrote:Only way Suns get KD is if they send Ayton to a 3rd team that coughs up picks.

We could include Terry, POR pick, and one CHI future 1st. I think PW will be better than any of the young players supposedly being talked about.


Ayton to Utah for a couple picks works.

Yep. 3 team trade coming that sends Ayton to Utah, KD to Phoenix and picks/players back to BK.

Book it!


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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#334 » by Wingy » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:49 pm

rocbullsfan wrote:Lots of hilarious posts in here. This isn’t the Kevin Durant that won mvp of the finals this is the Kevin Durant that couldn’t drive by anyone nor get any lift on a jump shot and looked ancient against a good Boston team. Lol at anyone trading brown and picks for Durant. I’d be ok with trading for him but I’m not giving up the farm and setting this team back another 5 years by decimating the team.


While I’m having fun conjuring up the kind of 2K offers the Nets can’t refuse, you make a good point.

They are looking for a historic haul on a past prime, post-achilles, even more drama KD. While teams can create insane packages, I have to wonder how many really will.

For example, I mentioned a Scotty Barnes based trade, and Raps fans seemed pretty strongly against it in the few posts I read.

Then again the Wolves just set an insane market, and teams are bidding against each other - so it will only take one.

KD has probably done them a favor in all honesty.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#335 » by Rose2Boozer » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:58 pm

If the Nets can land Bridges and Ayton they should grab the deal with both hands.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#336 » by HomoSapien » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:58 pm

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HomoSapien wrote:
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We're one of the few teams that can make a competitive offer for KD without gutting what made us competitive.

What would that deal look like? I’d hope so because pickings are slim.


Base would be Patrick Williams, Vucevic, Portland Pick, 2025 First Round Pick, 2027 First Round pick

Sweeteners could be some combo of Coby, Ayo, and Terry. Vuc could also go to a third team for additional assets.
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Post#337 » by sco » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:59 pm

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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#338 » by chitownsports4ever » Fri Jul 1, 2022 11:13 pm

HomoSapien wrote:
PJSteven22 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
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We're one of the few teams that can make a competitive offer for KD without gutting what made us competitive.

What would that deal look like? I’d hope so because pickings are slim.


Base would be Patrick Williams, Vucevic, Portland Pick, 2025 First Round Pick, 2027 First Round pick

Sweeteners could be some combo of Coby, Ayo, and Terry. Vuc could also go to a third team for additional assets.


There is no way a Durant trade happens without Demar

They can sell Demar as having finished top 10 in the MVP voting but Vooch makes it as salary dump as hes an expiring.

They could sell replacing the 4th leading scorer in the nba with the 7th leading

Since they cant tank and they are re-signing Claxton and Mills Demar gives them exactly what they would need an elite scorer on a 2 year deal.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#339 » by BullChit » Fri Jul 1, 2022 11:14 pm

Wingy wrote:
rocbullsfan wrote:Lots of hilarious posts in here. This isn’t the Kevin Durant that won mvp of the finals this is the Kevin Durant that couldn’t drive by anyone nor get any lift on a jump shot and looked ancient against a good Boston team. Lol at anyone trading brown and picks for Durant. I’d be ok with trading for him but I’m not giving up the farm and setting this team back another 5 years by decimating the team.


While I’m having fun conjuring up the kind of 2K offers the Nets can’t refuse, you make a good point.

They are looking for a historic haul on a past prime, post-achilles, even more drama KD. While teams can create insane packages, I have to wonder how many really will.

For example, I mentioned a Scotty Barnes based trade, and Raps fans seemed pretty strongly against it in the few posts I read.

Then again the Wolves just set an insane market, and teams are bidding against each other - so it will only take one.

KD has probably done them a favor in all honesty.


It does seem like current KD would fit the Bulls history of not getting a superstar type player until they were finished or closing out their prime.

For us it would be replacing DeMars output with KDs... Who do we think will sustain for a few more seasons?
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#340 » by BullChit » Fri Jul 1, 2022 11:16 pm

chitownsports4ever wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
PJSteven22 wrote:What would that deal look like? I’d hope so because pickings are slim.


Base would be Patrick Williams, Vucevic, Portland Pick, 2025 First Round Pick, 2027 First Round pick

Sweeteners could be some combo of Coby, Ayo, and Terry. Vuc could also go to a third team for additional assets.


There is no way a Durant trade happens without Demar

They can sell Demar as having finished top 10 in the MVP voting but Vooch makes it as salary dump as hes an expiring.

They could sell replacing the 4th leading scorer in the nba with the 7th leading

Since they cant tank and they are re-signing Claxton and Mills Demar gives them exactly what they would need an elite scorer on a 2 year deal.


Not to mention DeMar, KD and Drummond on court together is a horrible horrible fit.

Didn't KD shot the second most Mid range shots last season behind DeMar...
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