Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3

saloonyk8 · Post #1721 » by **saloonyk8** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 3:54 am

If Nets want a bunch of picks we're definitely out. I could see a team giving 3 picks and 2-3 swaps and a young player

CP War Hawks · Post #1722 » by **CP War Hawks** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 4:11 am

Collins, Hunter, and all those picks given to Murray would've been a good starting point for Durant.

Post #1723 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 4:26 am

saloonyk8 wrote:
atlantabbq99 wrote:^ I assume the Hawks already offered Collins for Durant and the Hawks are just waiting for the Nets' counter offer...

I don't think Miami is going to give Bam and Phoenix will give Booker.

Bridges and Ayton is actually a great return of they want Ayton... Otherwise I think our offer is decent

I don't believe Bam can be traded to Brooklyn unless they got rid of Ben Simmons first. Since Booker is extended now I don't believe he can be traded at the moment.

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Post #1724 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 4:28 am

CP War Hawks wrote:Collins, Hunter, and all those picks given to Murray would've been a good starting point for Durant.

I think something is still possible. We have the young talent but are they appealing to Brooklyn? Time will tell.

Trae, Murray, Kevin Durant, and CC could be special.

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Post #1725 » by **dms269** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:52 am

HMFFL wrote:
saloonyk8 wrote:
atlantabbq99 wrote:^ I assume the Hawks already offered Collins for Durant and the Hawks are just waiting for the Nets' counter offer...

I don't think Miami is going to give Bam and Phoenix will give Booker.

Bridges and Ayton is actually a great return of they want Ayton... Otherwise I think our offer is decent
I don't believe Bam can be traded to Brooklyn unless they got rid of Ben Simmons first. Since Booker is extended now I don't believe he can be traded at the moment.

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I mean I would take Simmons if that is the case.

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hawks_fan25 · Post #1726 » by **hawks_fan25** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:27 am

Wouldn’t be surprised to see something like Delon+Rui+FRP for JC.

raleigh · Post #1727 » by **raleigh** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 12:52 pm

hawks_fan25 wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised to see something like Delon+Rui+FRP for JC.

Did you mean Deni?

Delon isn't eligible to be traded.

hawks_fan25 · Post #1728 » by **hawks_fan25** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 1:44 pm

raleigh wrote:
hawks_fan25 wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised to see something like Delon+Rui+FRP for JC.

Did you mean Deni?

Delon isn't eligible to be traded.

Oh gotcha. These rules always confuse me. I thought he was eligible because they were under the cap when they signed him. Figured they were just signing him to facilitate salary matching in a trade for JC

Godaddycurse · Post #1729 » by **Godaddycurse** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 2:14 pm

hawks_fan25 wrote:
raleigh wrote:
hawks_fan25 wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised to see something like Delon+Rui+FRP for JC.

Did you mean Deni?

Delon isn't eligible to be traded.

Oh gotcha. These rules always confuse me. I thought he was eligible because they were under the cap when they signed him. Figured they were just signing him to facilitate salary matching in a trade for JC

They were well over the cap w/ Beal extension

saloonyk8 · Post #1730 » by **saloonyk8** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 2:51 pm

I think Nets know they're not getting Booker... My guess is they settle on 3 picks, 3 swaps, Ayton and Bridges from Phoenix

Years90Suns · Post #1731 » by **Years90Suns** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 10:24 am

This franchise and this group of players is not ready for Durant, as he would come toooo early to go for a ring, when we need to fullfil a process of still developing Trae, Murray, Hunter, Bogi and possibly Collins or someone who comes here.

The problem now is that 80% of the franchises are stopped until the KD situation comes to and end.
Our chances of remodelling the roster come from getting Ayton for Capela or moving Collins.

The main thing I can see here is that OO is ready for more minutes. But he has not the size to play center and lacks the shot to be a PF. So it is difficult to find him a partner inside.

atlantabbq99 · Post #1732 » by **atlantabbq99** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 12:50 pm

saloonyk8 wrote:I think Nets know they're not getting Booker... My guess is they settle on 3 picks, 3 swaps, Ayton and Bridges from Phoenix

They said that Ayton cannot be traded to the Nets because the Nets are already hard capped. Ayton will have to go to a 3rd team.

Post #1733 » by **HMFFL** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:27 pm

dms269 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
saloonyk8 wrote:
I don't think Miami is going to give Bam and Phoenix will give Booker.

Bridges and Ayton is actually a great return of they want Ayton... Otherwise I think our offer is decent
I don't believe Bam can be traded to Brooklyn unless they got rid of Ben Simmons first. Since Booker is extended now I don't believe he can be traded at the moment.

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I mean I would take Simmons if that is the case.

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If Simmons sits next season I expect the league to take legal action. I don't like the risk.

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saloonyk8 · Post #1734 » by **saloonyk8** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 5:44 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:
saloonyk8 wrote:I think Nets know they're not getting Booker... My guess is they settle on 3 picks, 3 swaps, Ayton and Bridges from Phoenix

They said that Ayton cannot be traded to the Nets because the Nets are already hard capped. Ayton will have to go to a 3rd team.

Nets can't get Ayton easily

The salary matching issues due to Base Year Compensation rule on Ayton would require the Nets to take on $8-10 million more dollars than are going out, and they are already WAY over the tax apron
acquiring Ayton in a sign-and-trade triggers the ‘hard cap’ which would require the Nets to immediately shed more than $20 million in salaries to get back under the tax apron and stay there

But they can get him....I don't know how they would shed that money

saloonyk8 · Post #1735 » by **saloonyk8** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 5:44 pm

Anyway we can get Bridges in all this?

I love his game and fit with DJ and Trae

atlantabbq99 · Post #1736 » by **atlantabbq99** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 10:37 pm

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PhillyFan11 · Post #1737 » by **PhillyFan11** » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:19 am

Tobias Harris, Thybulle, Niang, lotto protected 2028 FRP

For

John Collins and Bogdanovic

Thoughts?

jayu70 · Post #1738 » by **jayu70** » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:26 am

PhillyFan11 wrote:Tobias Harris, Thybulle, Niang, lotto protected 2028 FRP

For

John Collins and Bogdanovic

Thoughts?

At the trade deadline the Hawks discussed Collins+ for Simmons. Philly tried including Harris - Hawks passed then so I don't see them wanting Harris without Simmons.

saloonyk8 · Post #1739 » by **saloonyk8** » Sun Jul 3, 2022 11:23 am

Any interest in Collins Bogi for Simmons?

PhillyFan11 · Post #1740 » by **PhillyFan11** » Sun Jul 3, 2022 12:27 pm

jayu70 wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:Tobias Harris, Thybulle, Niang, lotto protected 2028 FRP

For

John Collins and Bogdanovic

Thoughts?

At the trade deadline the Hawks discussed Collins+ for Simmons. Philly tried including Harris - Hawks passed then so I don't see them wanting Harris without Simmons.

Could that possibly have had to do with adding $70 mil in payroll for 2+ years? Ben and Tobi weren’t a great fit together anyway, both are best utilized at PF.
Or do you think the Hawks purely don’t like Tobi?

Also, just as an outsider…what is the deal with Atlanta seemingly wanting to get trade Collins? He seems like a pretty good fit. Is he a bad teammate or something? Or just hasn’t lived up to expectations?