Mark Cuban must go!

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Watching those deals being done, does someone ask himself, how far away Mavs are to just make a phone call?

Apparently all lines are busy talking to the Cavs

I was hoping they're talking to Ljubljana.

You don't like Sexton?

[BeiBeau]

This thread is the dumbest thing I ever heard for a few reasons.

1. At the time the KP trade wasn’t bad. It’s not our fault that KP has a bad attitude and never developed. Dallas didn’t have a lot of capital so it was a good swing that just didn’t work.

2. In this time frame Dallas swung hard to get Luka and that was an amazing decision. But Khalis wouldn’t give credit for anything good happening

3. We’re coming of a western conference finals appearance. Luka is 23. Lebron, Curry, Shaq, Jordan all won rings much later. It takes time to get the right pieces relax.

4. Most of the stuff being complained about isn’t a Cuban problem, it’s a Donnie Nelson problem. Abandoning the 2020 pick, Nelson. Curry trade, Nelson.

5. Brunson is not worth 26 million dollars a year. You all can think it was a mistake to not trade him or to sign him for 4/55 last summer are just being stupid. At the time both were the right decision, they just don’t seem like it cause the Knicks tampered and Jalen wanted to go to New York.

[DJ_3_Ball]

It's too late, now we can only hope that Nico is a magician.

He isn't, he mismanaged last off season and this offseason, he lucked into Bullock for the MLE, that's his only saving grace.

Jalen Brunson was complete & utter garbage in the Clippers' series 2 years ago. Gimmie a break. Nobody in their right mind was clamoring to lockdown Brunson last summer. This is revisionist history because of a couple good playoff games this season.

Brunson is solid, but $27.5M per year. I do not think so. Nico should have figured a way to get some compensation in return, but so be it.

[Bob8]

Apparently all lines are busy talking to the Cavs

I was hoping they're talking to Ljubljana.

You don't like Sexton?

I like many players, but you have to have something to get something. I'm not sure that they have enough to get even Goran.

[DreamTeam09]

This Mavs team is still really good. McGee and wood are upgrades and THJ wasn't there. Another big guard who can get a bucket then we'll good to go.

How is 6mill a year a gross overpay or a bad contract at any point in terms of McGee.

[Bob8]

This thread is the dumbest thing I ever heard for a few reasons.

1. At the time the KP trade wasn’t bad. It’s not our fault that KP has a bad attitude and never developed. Dallas didn’t have a lot of capital so it was a good swing that just didn’t work.

2. In this time frame Dallas swung hard to get Luka and that was an amazing decision. But Khalis wouldn’t give credit for anything good happening

3. We’re coming of a western conference finals appearance. Luka is 23. Lebron, Curry, Shaq, Jordan all won rings much later. It takes time to get the right pieces relax.

4. Most of the stuff being complained about isn’t a Cuban problem, it’s a Donnie Nelson problem. Abandoning the 2020 pick, Nelson. Curry trade, Nelson.

5. Brunson is not worth 26 million dollars a year. You all can think it was a mistake to not trade him or to sign him for 4/55 last summer are just being stupid. At the time both were the right decision, they just don’t seem like it cause the Knicks tampered and Jalen wanted to go to New York.

Cuban is owner of the Mavs, so everything is his problem. Replacing Donnie with Nico was for sure the right move, but we must comment on Brunson fiasco, because it's crucial not only for next season, but going forward too.

Last year's WCF was great (over)achievement. Maybe it's difficult to admit, but Brunson was very important part of it. Not only for those crucial 2 wins against Utah, but for the whole season, when Luka wasn't on the court. Brunson was mini Luka with similar playing style, that's why he was perfect to lead a team build around Luka. You might replace his points with players like THJ, Wood..., but those players can't create for themselves much, so their value falls without Luka on the court, Brunson on the other hand thrives without Luka.

We will see different West this year. Clippers, Pelicans, Wolves, Nuggets all much better, Portland will be better too, there's some questions about Lakers and Suns but they might get new superstars.

The biggest problem I see is not losing Brunson for next season, which will hurt for sure, but being hard cap team without 0 tradeable assets except Luka. No cap space in 2023 and those 45 millions in 2024 will quickly go down with new contracts.

Those hard words are totally unnecessary. We're here to express our feelings, thoughts on situation. We might be right or wrong, no need to be angry, if you don't agree with someone.

[dirkdiggler4177]

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Cuban is owner of the Mavs, so everything is his problem. Replacing Donnie with Nico was for sure the right move, but we must comment on Brunson fiasco, because it's crucial not only for next season, but going forward too.

Last year's WCF was great (over)achievement. Maybe it's difficult to admit, but Brunson was very important part of it. Not only for those crucial 2 wins against Utah, but for the whole season, when Luka wasn't on the court. Brunson was mini Luka with similar playing style, that's why he was perfect to lead a team build around Luka. You might replace his points with players like THJ, Wood..., but those players can't create for themselves much, so their value falls without Luka on the court, Brunson on the other hand thrives without Luka.

We will see different West this year. Clippers, Pelicans, Wolves, Nuggets all much better, Portland will be better too, there's some questions about Lakers and Suns but they might get new superstars.

The biggest problem I see is not losing Brunson for next season, which will hurt for sure, but being hard cap team without 0 tradeable assets except Luka. No cap space in 2023 and those 45 millions in 2024 will quickly go down with new contracts.

Those hard words are totally unnecessary. We're here to express our feelings, thoughts on situation. We might be right or wrong, no need to be angry, if you don't agree with someone.

The problem with Brunson is that you had to finish with Luka and Brunson. That does not work on defense. Calling it a fiasco is wrong. The Mavs were unsure if he would be able to do anything in the playoffs considering what he did against the Clippers. They took a gamble and lost. Not being able to resign him is not on the Mavs. Brunson is 100% basketball his whole life. Playing for the Knicks as their point guard vs. playing with the NBA's biggest ball hog of all time makes it very easy to choose the Knicks.

[Bob8]

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Cuban is owner of the Mavs, so everything is his problem. Replacing Donnie with Nico was for sure the right move, but we must comment on Brunson fiasco, because it's crucial not only for next season, but going forward too.

Last year's WCF was great (over)achievement. Maybe it's difficult to admit, but Brunson was very important part of it. Not only for those crucial 2 wins against Utah, but for the whole season, when Luka wasn't on the court. Brunson was mini Luka with similar playing style, that's why he was perfect to lead a team build around Luka. You might replace his points with players like THJ, Wood..., but those players can't create for themselves much, so their value falls without Luka on the court, Brunson on the other hand thrives without Luka.

We will see different West this year. Clippers, Pelicans, Wolves, Nuggets all much better, Portland will be better too, there's some questions about Lakers and Suns but they might get new superstars.

The biggest problem I see is not losing Brunson for next season, which will hurt for sure, but being hard cap team without 0 tradeable assets except Luka. No cap space in 2023 and those 45 millions in 2024 will quickly go down with new contracts.

Those hard words are totally unnecessary. We're here to express our feelings, thoughts on situation. We might be right or wrong, no need to be angry, if you don't agree with someone.

The problem with Brunson is that you had to finish with Luka and Brunson. That does not work on defense. Calling it a fiasco is wrong. The Mavs were unsure if he would be able to do anything in the playoffs considering what he did against the Clippers. They took a gamble and lost. Not being able to resign him is not on the Mavs. Brunson is 100% basketball his whole life. Playing for the Knicks as their point guard vs. playing with the NBA's biggest ball hog of all time makes it very easy to choose the Knicks.

Playing with the biggest ball hog earned him 104 million.

[Mavrelous]

This thread is the dumbest thing I ever heard for a few reasons.

1. At the time the KP trade wasn’t bad. It’s not our fault that KP has a bad attitude and never developed. Dallas didn’t have a lot of capital so it was a good swing that just didn’t work.

2. In this time frame Dallas swung hard to get Luka and that was an amazing decision. But Khalis wouldn’t give credit for anything good happening

3. We’re coming of a western conference finals appearance. Luka is 23. Lebron, Curry, Shaq, Jordan all won rings much later. It takes time to get the right pieces relax.

4. Most of the stuff being complained about isn’t a Cuban problem, it’s a Donnie Nelson problem. Abandoning the 2020 pick, Nelson. Curry trade, Nelson.

5. Brunson is not worth 26 million dollars a year. You all can think it was a mistake to not trade him or to sign him for 4/55 last summer are just being stupid. At the time both were the right decision, they just don’t seem like it cause the Knicks tampered and Jalen wanted to go to New York.

None of the "dumb" things you list werr claimed, maybr look in a mirror beforr calling peoplr takrs dumb?

[Kampuchea]

Cuban is owner of the Mavs, so everything is his problem. Replacing Donnie with Nico was for sure the right move, but we must comment on Brunson fiasco, because it's crucial not only for next season, but going forward too.

Last year's WCF was great (over)achievement. Maybe it's difficult to admit, but Brunson was very important part of it. Not only for those crucial 2 wins against Utah, but for the whole season, when Luka wasn't on the court. Brunson was mini Luka with similar playing style, that's why he was perfect to lead a team build around Luka. You might replace his points with players like THJ, Wood..., but those players can't create for themselves much, so their value falls without Luka on the court, Brunson on the other hand thrives without Luka.

We will see different West this year. Clippers, Pelicans, Wolves, Nuggets all much better, Portland will be better too, there's some questions about Lakers and Suns but they might get new superstars.

The biggest problem I see is not losing Brunson for next season, which will hurt for sure, but being hard cap team without 0 tradeable assets except Luka. No cap space in 2023 and those 45 millions in 2024 will quickly go down with new contracts.

Those hard words are totally unnecessary. We're here to express our feelings, thoughts on situation. We might be right or wrong, no need to be angry, if you don't agree with someone.

The problem with Brunson is that you had to finish with Luka and Brunson. That does not work on defense. Calling it a fiasco is wrong. The Mavs were unsure if he would be able to do anything in the playoffs considering what he did against the Clippers. They took a gamble and lost. Not being able to resign him is not on the Mavs. Brunson is 100% basketball his whole life. Playing for the Knicks as their point guard vs. playing with the NBA's biggest ball hog of all time makes it very easy to choose the Knicks.

Playing with the biggest ball hog earned him 104 million.

Brunson has excelled without Luka, the stats clearly show this and that is a main driver for his contract. Many off ball players are helped greatly by Luka, Brunson is an on-ball player so playing with the highest usage player in the NBA is not necessarily a benefit to him.

[Archx]

I was hoping they're talking to Ljubljana.

You don't like Sexton?

I like many players, but you have to have something to get something. I'm not sure that they have enough to get even Goran.

(Correct me if i'm wrong) Mavs still have full MLE, they only used their tax on McGee if i'm not mistaken. So, still 10M available to sign someone.

Brunson has excelled without Luka, the stats clearly show this and that is a main driver for his contract. Many off ball players are helped greatly by Luka, Brunson is an on-ball player so playing with the highest usage player in the NBA is not necessarily a benefit to him.

You need to put his numbers into context a bit.

Brunson had 28% USG% in the playoffs on 18 FGA, only 5 less than Doncic, and still had almost a negative on court impact. That was mostly the case because of his poor defense. Mavs still had a losing record with him putting up those "nice" numbers. He also had few games when he was a complete non factor and Dinwdiddie carried the load. Brunson often scored many points in the 2nd half when game was pretty much over.

All in all, sure his numbers looked good and he is a nice player but he was NEVER the main focus from opposing teams, he was never even doubled when he was scoring vs Jazz. He's also a very poor playmaker. He can dish it out to open guys but lacks any creativity and was criticized a lot by Mavs fans because of that.

Still, great addition for the Knicks but with that salary you expect him to become an all star, i don't think he's that good. We'll see.

[leolozon]

This thread is the dumbest thing I ever heard for a few reasons.

1. At the time the KP trade wasn’t bad. It’s not our fault that KP has a bad attitude and never developed. Dallas didn’t have a lot of capital so it was a good swing that just didn’t work.

2. In this time frame Dallas swung hard to get Luka and that was an amazing decision. But Khalis wouldn’t give credit for anything good happening

3. We’re coming of a western conference finals appearance. Luka is 23. Lebron, Curry, Shaq, Jordan all won rings much later. It takes time to get the right pieces relax.

4. Most of the stuff being complained about isn’t a Cuban problem, it’s a Donnie Nelson problem. Abandoning the 2020 pick, Nelson. Curry trade, Nelson.

5. Brunson is not worth 26 million dollars a year. You all can think it was a mistake to not trade him or to sign him for 4/55 last summer are just being stupid. At the time both were the right decision, they just don’t seem like it cause the Knicks tampered and Jalen wanted to go to New York.

(Cuban os the owner, I don't think "he must go")

But...

1-I personally thought the Kp trade was bad as it happened and I think it should have been pretty obvious to anyone that you don't give the max to an injury prone player who never proved that he was worth the Max. KP wasn't that good in NY, he was inefficient. Stupid signing that still handicap the team and I was saying the same back then.

2- Yeah, that was great.

3- It takes time, but the Mavs aren't going in the right direction and are stuck with bad contracts because of mistakes.

4- We know that Cuban meddles with the team. It was approved by Cuban. Such a bad trade.

5- The Mavs needed to be proactive and decide if they wanted him on the team or not. They didn't. They were passive with him and what happened, happened because of that passiveness. Debatable if they were right decisions, especially last year before the trade deadline.

[Bob8]

The problem with Brunson is that you had to finish with Luka and Brunson. That does not work on defense. Calling it a fiasco is wrong. The Mavs were unsure if he would be able to do anything in the playoffs considering what he did against the Clippers. They took a gamble and lost. Not being able to resign him is not on the Mavs. Brunson is 100% basketball his whole life. Playing for the Knicks as their point guard vs. playing with the NBA's biggest ball hog of all time makes it very easy to choose the Knicks.

Playing with the biggest ball hog earned him 104 million.

Brunson has excelled without Luka, the stats clearly show this and that is a main driver for his contract. Many off ball players are helped greatly by Luka, Brunson is an on-ball player so playing with the highest usage player in the NBA is not necessarily a benefit to him.

You're saying that Knicks gave Brunson 104 mio, because of 20 games played without Luka?

[leolozon]

This thread is the dumbest thing I ever heard for a few reasons.

1. At the time the KP trade wasn’t bad. It’s not our fault that KP has a bad attitude and never developed. Dallas didn’t have a lot of capital so it was a good swing that just didn’t work.

2. In this time frame Dallas swung hard to get Luka and that was an amazing decision. But Khalis wouldn’t give credit for anything good happening

3. We’re coming of a western conference finals appearance. Luka is 23. Lebron, Curry, Shaq, Jordan all won rings much later. It takes time to get the right pieces relax.

4. Most of the stuff being complained about isn’t a Cuban problem, it’s a Donnie Nelson problem. Abandoning the 2020 pick, Nelson. Curry trade, Nelson.

5. Brunson is not worth 26 million dollars a year. You all can think it was a mistake to not trade him or to sign him for 4/55 last summer are just being stupid. At the time both were the right decision, they just don’t seem like it cause the Knicks tampered and Jalen wanted to go to New York.

(Cuban is the owner, I don't think "he must go".)

But...

1-I personally thought the Kp trade was bad as it happened and I think it should have been pretty obvious to anyone that you don't give the max to an injury prone player who never proved that he was worth the Max. KP wasn't that good in NY, he was inefficient. Stupid signing that still handicap the team and I was saying the same back then. I think it was bad and I can't believe more people didn't see the he same thing.

2- Yeah, that was great.

3- It takes time, but the Mavs aren't going in the right direction and are stuck with bad contracts because of mistakes.

4- We know that Cuban meddles with the team. It was approved by Cuban. Such a bad trade.

5- The Mavs needed to be proactive and decide if they wanted him on the team or not. They didn't. They were passive with him and what happened, happened because of that passiveness. Debatable if they were right decisions, especially last year before the trade deadline.

[Kampuchea]

You don't like Sexton?

I like many players, but you have to have something to get something. I'm not sure that they have enough to get even Goran.

(Correct me if i'm wrong) Mavs still have full MLE, they only used their tax on McGee if i'm not mistaken. So, still 10M available to sign someone.

Brunson has excelled without Luka, the stats clearly show this and that is a main driver for his contract. Many off ball players are helped greatly by Luka, Brunson is an on-ball player so playing with the highest usage player in the NBA is not necessarily a benefit to him.

You need to put his numbers into context a bit.

Brunson had 28% USG% in the playoffs on 18 FGA, only 5 less than Doncic, and still had almost a negative on court impact. That was mostly the case because of his poor defense. Mavs still had a losing record with him putting up those "nice" numbers. He also had few games when he was a complete non factor and Dinwdiddie carried the load. Brunson often scored many points in the 2nd half when game was pretty much over.

All in all, sure his numbers looked good and he is a nice player but he was NEVER the main focus from opposing teams, he was never even doubled when he was scoring vs Jazz. He's also a very poor playmaker. He can dish it out to open guys but lacks any creativity and was criticized a lot by Mavs fans because of that.

Still, great addition for the Knicks but with that salary you expect him to become an all star, i don't think he's that good. We'll see.

All good points, however, I do believe those stretches without Luka were a major driver of his value increasing and to him being viewed as a desirable starting PG by the Knicks.

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Also, he is the 14th highest paid PG in the league - in the D Lo ($29m), Rozier ($24m), Lowry ($28M) range. Honestly - looking at those names his contract seems just about right, doesn't it?

[Bob8]

You don't like Sexton?

I like many players, but you have to have something to get something. I'm not sure that they have enough to get even Goran.

(Correct me if i'm wrong) Mavs still have full MLE, they only used their tax on McGee if i'm not mistaken. So, still 10M available to sign someone.

I believe not. They can sign someone only for vet minimum.

[Bob8]

I like many players, but you have to have something to get something. I'm not sure that they have enough to get even Goran.

(Correct me if i'm wrong) Mavs still have full MLE, they only used their tax on McGee if i'm not mistaken. So, still 10M available to sign someone.

Brunson has excelled without Luka, the stats clearly show this and that is a main driver for his contract. Many off ball players are helped greatly by Luka, Brunson is an on-ball player so playing with the highest usage player in the NBA is not necessarily a benefit to him.

You need to put his numbers into context a bit.

Brunson had 28% USG% in the playoffs on 18 FGA, only 5 less than Doncic, and still had almost a negative on court impact. That was mostly the case because of his poor defense. Mavs still had a losing record with him putting up those "nice" numbers. He also had few games when he was a complete non factor and Dinwdiddie carried the load. Brunson often scored many points in the 2nd half when game was pretty much over.

All in all, sure his numbers looked good and he is a nice player but he was NEVER the main focus from opposing teams, he was never even doubled when he was scoring vs Jazz. He's also a very poor playmaker. He can dish it out to open guys but lacks any creativity and was criticized a lot by Mavs fans because of that.

Still, great addition for the Knicks but with that salary you expect him to become an all star, i don't think he's that good. We'll see.

All good points, however, I do believe those stretches without Luka were a major driver of his value increasing and to him being viewed as a desirable starting PG by the Knicks.

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Also, he is the 14th highest paid PG in the league - in the D Lo ($29m), Rozier ($24m), Lowry ($28M) range. Honestly - looking at those names his contract seems just about right, doesn't it?

And how went last season for those players? Problem for Knicks is that they have brought Brunson as their first option, he should be 3rd at best. And problem for Brunson will be, that he had great spacing in Mavs, he won't have that in Knicks.

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I like many players, but you have to have something to get something. I'm not sure that they have enough to get even Goran.

(Correct me if i'm wrong) Mavs still have full MLE, they only used their tax on McGee if i'm not mistaken. So, still 10M available to sign someone.

I believe not. They can sign someone only for vet minimum.

I checked, they still have full MLE available. Unless the website is wrong

[Bob8]

(Correct me if i'm wrong) Mavs still have full MLE, they only used their tax on McGee if i'm not mistaken. So, still 10M available to sign someone.

I believe not. They can sign someone only for vet minimum.

I checked, they still have full MLE available. Unless the website is wrong

I believe it expired on June 27th.

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I believe not. They can sign someone only for vet minimum.

I checked, they still have full MLE available. Unless the website is wrong

I believe it expired on June 27th.

Yes but that was trade exception not MLE.