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Post#401 » by nate33 » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:19 am

I think we will be better of with Wright starting and Morris coming off the bench. Morris is more of a pure PG, but he is also small and suspect defensively. Wright is a first rate defender but is not really a pure PG. Both are good shooters.

Our offense is going to run a lot of diversified sets with multiple slashers running around Porzingis high screens and dribble handoffs. They have less of a need for a conventional PG. And Beal can run pick-and-roll and iso sets in a pinch. I think they will benefit from Wright's defense and switchability more than they'll benefit from Morris' superior playmaking.

And conversely, the 2nd unit is lacking in shot creation and playmaking without Beal and Porzingis out there. They will be in more dire need of a PG to run the offense and set up the more dependent players.

The big question to me is which guy gets left out of the 10-man rotation? We know who our 2 PG's and 2 C's are. But only 6 of the following 7 players will make the rotation at SG, SF and PF respectively: Beal, Davis, Barton, Kispert, Avdija, Rui, Kuzma. I don't think we will have our answer until training camp. If I had to guess now, I'd say Davis will start off riding the pine. Once one of the other 6 guys gets hurt, Davis will get his chance.
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Post#402 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:48 am

nate33 wrote:I think we will be better of with Wright starting and Morris coming off the bench. Morris is more of a pure PG, but he is also small and suspect defensively. Wright is a first rate defender but is not really a pure PG. Both are good shooters.

Our offense is going to run a lot of diversified sets with multiple slashers running around Porzingis high screens and dribble handoffs. They have less of a need for a conventional PG. And Beal can run pick-and-roll and iso sets in a pinch. I think they will benefit from Wright's defense and switchability more than they'll benefit from Morris' superior playmaking.

And conversely, the 2nd unit is lacking in shot creation and playmaking without Beal and Porzingis out there. They will be in more dire need of a PG to run the offense and set up the more dependent players.

The big question to me is which guy gets left out of the 10-man rotation? We know who our 2 PG's and 2 C's are. But only 6 of the following 7 players will make the rotation at SG, SF and PF respectively: Beal, Davis, Barton, Kispert, Avdija, Rui, Kuzma. I don't think we will have our answer until training camp. If I had to guess now, I'd say Davis will start off riding the pine. Once one of the other 6 guys gets hurt, Davis will get his chance.



You make a good point Nate. I thought about that, and it probably does make more sense to start Wright with Beal, and run Morris with Davis.

I could also see further in the season of they want to push Davis into the starting lineup where they could go Davis with Beal, and come off the bench with Morris & Wright ...

I think Kispert is the one who gets squeezed, although between SG & SF and just take situations where we want more 3pt threat & opportunity, plus injuries, he'll get plenty of run. But I do see him as essentially the 11th man at 2/3, with Gill as 12th man at 4/5.
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Post#403 » by Jimmy Recard » Sat Jul 2, 2022 7:42 am

Wright/Morris
Beal/Barton/Davis
Deni/Barton/Kispert
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KP/Gafford
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Post#404 » by Frichuela » Sat Jul 2, 2022 11:22 am

nate33 wrote:I think we will be better of with Wright starting and Morris coming off the bench. Morris is more of a pure PG, but he is also small and suspect defensively. Wright is a first rate defender but is not really a pure PG. Both are good shooters.

Our offense is going to run a lot of diversified sets with multiple slashers running around Porzingis high screens and dribble handoffs. They have less of a need for a conventional PG. And Beal can run pick-and-roll and iso sets in a pinch. I think they will benefit from Wright's defense and switchability more than they'll benefit from Morris' superior playmaking.

And conversely, the 2nd unit is lacking in shot creation and playmaking without Beal and Porzingis out there. They will be in more dire need of a PG to run the offense and set up the more dependent players.

The big question to me is which guy gets left out of the 10-man rotation? We know who our 2 PG's and 2 C's are. But only 6 of the following 7 players will make the rotation at SG, SF and PF respectively: Beal, Davis, Barton, Kispert, Avdija, Rui, Kuzma. I don't think we will have our answer until training camp. If I had to guess now, I'd say Davis will start off riding the pine. Once one of the other 6 guys gets hurt, Davis will get his chance.


I fear Barton becomes the new Neto, who plays much more than he deserves. Who gets squeezed? Davis and Kispert…
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Post#405 » by nate33 » Sat Jul 2, 2022 12:29 pm

Frichuela wrote: I fear Barton becomes the new Neto, who plays much more than he deserves. Who gets squeezed? Davis and Kispert…


Everybody keeps saying this, but I don't understand why. Yes, Wes Jr. knows Barton from Denver, but Illuminaire has told us that Barton is a frustrating player with bad bball IQ - a modern day Nick Young. Why would a coach overplay a guy like that when he has two guys in Kispert and Davis who are coach's dreams?
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Post#406 » by Frichuela » Sat Jul 2, 2022 12:51 pm

nate33 wrote:
Frichuela wrote: I fear Barton becomes the new Neto, who plays much more than he deserves. Who gets squeezed? Davis and Kispert…


Everybody keeps saying this, but I don't understand why. Yes, Wes Jr. knows Barton from Denver, but Illuminaire has told us that Barton is a frustrating player with bad bball IQ - a modern day Nick Young. Why would a coach overplay a guy like that when he has two guys in Kispert and Davis who are coach's dreams?


The same coach who played Neto undeserved minutes as a starter…
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Post#407 » by nate33 » Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:00 pm

Frichuela wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Frichuela wrote: I fear Barton becomes the new Neto, who plays much more than he deserves. Who gets squeezed? Davis and Kispert…


Everybody keeps saying this, but I don't understand why. Yes, Wes Jr. knows Barton from Denver, but Illuminaire has told us that Barton is a frustrating player with bad bball IQ - a modern day Nick Young. Why would a coach overplay a guy like that when he has two guys in Kispert and Davis who are coach's dreams?


The same coach who played Neto undeserved minutes as a starter…

Who else was he supposed to play? When Neto first started, the options were Neto, Ish and Winston.

Eventually Sato joined the team and gave him a better option. Admittedly, Wes was too slow to make the switch, but not egregiously so. It took 12 games for Sato to take the starting job. It probably should have taken 8 or so. (Most coaches want to avoid making snap judgements on yanking starters because they don't want to crush confidence.)
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Post#408 » by Frichuela » Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:06 pm

nate33 wrote:
Frichuela wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Everybody keeps saying this, but I don't understand why. Yes, Wes Jr. knows Barton from Denver, but Illuminaire has told us that Barton is a frustrating player with bad bball IQ - a modern day Nick Young. Why would a coach overplay a guy like that when he has two guys in Kispert and Davis who are coach's dreams?


The same coach who played Neto undeserved minutes as a starter…

Who else was he supposed to play?


Sato for instance…it took Wes a while to DNP Neto…Even Ish would have been a less worse choice. Neto did not pass the ball even for dear life..
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Post#409 » by nate33 » Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:07 pm

Frichuela wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Frichuela wrote:
The same coach who played Neto undeserved minutes as a starter…

Who else was he supposed to play?


Sato for instance…it took Wes a while to DNP Neto…

I added to my post while you were responding.
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Post#410 » by Frichuela » Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:11 pm

nate33 wrote:
Frichuela wrote:
nate33 wrote:Who else was he supposed to play?


Sato for instance…it took Wes a while to DNP Neto…

I added to my post while you were responding.


Indeed! Our messages got crossed!

I hope you are right on Wes. His actions (re Barton in particular) will speak louder than words!
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Post#411 » by DCZards » Sat Jul 2, 2022 2:18 pm

nate33 wrote:
Frichuela wrote: I fear Barton becomes the new Neto, who plays much more than he deserves. Who gets squeezed? Davis and Kispert…


Everybody keeps saying this, but I don't understand why. Yes, Wes Jr. knows Barton from Denver, but Illuminaire has told us that Barton is a frustrating player with bad bball IQ - a modern day Nick Young. Why would a coach overplay a guy like that when he has two guys in Kispert and Davis who are coach's dreams?

Yes, Barton is frustrating. But he’s also extremely competitive (and often clutch) and Wes Jr likes that in a player. So don’t be surprised to see Barton on the court at the end of close games.
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Post#412 » by doclinkin » Sat Jul 2, 2022 2:38 pm

nate33 wrote:I think we will be better of with Wright starting and Morris coming off the bench. Morris is more of a pure PG, but he is also small and suspect defensively. Wright is a first rate defender but is not really a pure PG. Both are good shooters.

Our offense is going to run a lot of diversified sets with multiple slashers running around Porzingis high screens and dribble handoffs. They have less of a need for a conventional PG. And Beal can run pick-and-roll and iso sets in a pinch. I think they will benefit from Wright's defense and switchability more than they'll benefit from Morris' superior playmaking.

And conversely, the 2nd unit is lacking in shot creation and playmaking without Beal and Porzingis out there. They will be in more dire need of a PG to run the offense and set up the more dependent players.



I put thoughts on this in the Delon Wright thread, but better to discuss it here.

I expect we will start Morris to begin the season. Wes needs a floor leader who can exemplify what it is he wants done. As a head coach you lack the time behind the scenes that he got as a Player Development specialist. Morris benefitted from his tutelage and understands what it is he wants to do. This team needs leadership. The gravity of Beal's contract and front office connections warped the new Coach's message to players. Unseld will benefit by bringing in his guy to show how to do what it is he wants done. I agree that the 2nd unit will benefit by adding a playmaker (depending on where and when Deni plays, and if he can act as a 2nd unit floor leader in this system) and that eventually we may see heavier use of Delon due to the significant defensive difference he adds.

I expect though we may see Morris start but Delon close games. At least the ones that matter.


The big question to me is which guy gets left out of the 10-man rotation? We know who our 2 PG's and 2 C's are. But only 6 of the following 7 players will make the rotation at SG, SF and PF respectively: Beal, Davis, Barton, Kispert, Avdija, Rui, Kuzma. I don't think we will have our answer until training camp. If I had to guess now, I'd say Davis will start off riding the pine. Once one of the other 6 guys gets hurt, Davis will get his chance.


I figure Kuzma to start. He started every game he was healthy last year and we have not added a PF to take that spot. His late game Robert Horry impersonations (dollar store Big Shot Bob) and his rebounding fill a significant role, whatever the +/- numbers say. Yes John Collins might look better in this role, but Kuzma has added playmaking to his resume, earning his first career triple double. I think Wes trusts him. Hopefully his streakiness irons out.

That gives us offensive players needing touches at 4 positions, we'd need defense and a screen setter. I would not be surprised to see Avdija as a glue guy on this unit. Especially if Delon Wright joins the starters instead of Morris. A Delon/Deni line makes our defense passable, slows penetration enough for Porzingis to get into position to block.

Kispert, Barton, Rui is where the dogfight happens. I think Kispert wins out more often than you might think. His BBIQ, off ball motion, smart cuts to the basket and outside shooting all make him one of those coaches' pet type players. If his defense is passable, and if his ball handling is good enough to DHO, he will take minutes from others.

But I think all 3 will get minutes. Rui is our only option at back-up PF, unless Wes tries the GadgetZingus ultrabig line for extended minutes (that Gafford/Zinger/Kuzma set made me grin). Still, Rui's man-on defense is reliable against all players 6'8" and up. If you need someone to slow down Giannis or LeBJ a little, Rui is pretty much your only hope. His added range on open jumpers makes him a playable asset even if the rest of his game is still slow to pick up.

Will the Thrill adds an unpredictable game and energy that should feast on back-ups if he comes off the bench. I don't know his defense well enough to know if he beats out Kispert to start the game though. If we start Morris we will need a long strong defender in that spot. So however the Delon/Monte battle works out will affect the Kispert/Barton dynamic.

I do think Davis will get minutes though. Not solely from injury (knock wood) but because he will be the hardest working player on and off the floor. Its fine for me if he has to fight his way onto the court though. The rookie wall is a real thing, to nearly triple the number of games you play, plus travel and back to backs, all sap your energy. Davis plays such a high effort style that I'd almost want him on a load management plan to start his career even if all the minutes were available. At least until he has worked for a full year and offseason with strength & conditioning trainers and added a few low-effort moves to his game. Like a 3 pt shot. Or a misdirection move, step back, something more reliable and less high risk than driving into the paint for a diving lay-up. Because he is going to defend like a small tornado and try to rebound among the trees. He will need elbow pads and a crash helmet. But that effort on D will earn him trust and minutes, as the season goes along.
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Post#413 » by payitforward » Sat Jul 2, 2022 2:43 pm

I don't think Barton is going to keep Kispert on the bench. Or Deni. & I think Rui is going to (& should) get every opportunity to demonstrate that he's taken a jump.

Illuminaire has convinced me about Barton too. I still like him, above all because I'm always impressed when someone drafted low shows that he has what it takes to make it in the league. But, obviously, we didn't make the trade to acquire the guy; he was in the deal to make the salaries work. & at 31 he's not part of our core going forward. So, I assume he'll be the odd man out -- though maybe not at the beginning of the season, when Wes's familiarity with him will matter more.

Anyway... who knows what roster changes are still coming!
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Post#414 » by DCZards » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:16 pm

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Kispert, Barton, Rui is where the dogfight happens. I think Kispert wins out more often than you might think. His BBIQ, off ball motion, smart cuts to the basket and outside shooting all make him one of those coaches' pet type players. If his defense is passable, and if his ball handling is good enough to DHO, he will take minutes from others.

I agree with this. It will be hard not to play Kispert quality minutes. He'll likely get more consistent minutes than both Rui and Deni.

I was really impressed by Corey's play last season. (I guess it helps that he had the benefit of a 4 year college career.) I expect his 3 ball to be even better now that he's had a year to work on it from NBA range and, as you say, his cuts to basket are a real asset. (I saw a stat recently where he was like number 1 or 2 in the NBA at doing that last season.)

Kispert's smarts and sneaky athleticism will also earn him minutes--and make him at least decent on D.

And Beal likes him, which is all that matters according to some of you. :D

Beal on Kispert:
"Corey came in as a very mature rookie. He wasn't the average young guy, deer in the headlights as a rookie," Beal said. "He came in ready to go. He came in knowing the game, understanding the feel and the flow and what we wanted him and needed him to do."

"He understands that his job is to shoot the ball. When it touches your hands, Corey, you shoot the basketball. That's what we want you to do," Beal said. "We want you to continue to make plays, continue to be aggressive and continue to push yourself on the defensive end. He tries. He gets out and runs. He competes at a high level. I love everything he's doing."
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Post#415 » by J-Ves » Sat Jul 2, 2022 6:07 pm

Jimmy Recard wrote:Wright/Morris
Beal/Barton/Davis
Deni/Barton/Kispert
Kuz/Rui/Gill
KP/Gafford

I think Kispert is more likely to get the starting job over Deni
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Post#416 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat Jul 2, 2022 6:34 pm

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nate33 wrote:I think we will be better of with Wright starting and Morris coming off the bench. Morris is more of a pure PG, but he is also small and suspect defensively. Wright is a first rate defender but is not really a pure PG. Both are good shooters.

Our offense is going to run a lot of diversified sets with multiple slashers running around Porzingis high screens and dribble handoffs. They have less of a need for a conventional PG. And Beal can run pick-and-roll and iso sets in a pinch. I think they will benefit from Wright's defense and switchability more than they'll benefit from Morris' superior playmaking.

And conversely, the 2nd unit is lacking in shot creation and playmaking without Beal and Porzingis out there. They will be in more dire need of a PG to run the offense and set up the more dependent players.



I put thoughts on this in the Delon Wright thread, but better to discuss it here.

I expect we will start Morris to begin the season. Wes needs a floor leader who can exemplify what it is he wants done. As a head coach you lack the time behind the scenes that he got as a Player Development specialist. Morris benefitted from his tutelage and understands what it is he wants to do. This team needs leadership. The gravity of Beal's contract and front office connections warped the new Coach's message to players. Unseld will benefit by bringing in his guy to show how to do what it is he wants done. I agree that the 2nd unit will benefit by adding a playmaker (depending on where and when Deni plays, and if he can act as a 2nd unit floor leader in this system) and that eventually we may see heavier use of Delon due to the significant defensive difference he adds.

I expect though we may see Morris start but Delon close games. At least the ones that matter.


The big question to me is which guy gets left out of the 10-man rotation? We know who our 2 PG's and 2 C's are. But only 6 of the following 7 players will make the rotation at SG, SF and PF respectively: Beal, Davis, Barton, Kispert, Avdija, Rui, Kuzma. I don't think we will have our answer until training camp. If I had to guess now, I'd say Davis will start off riding the pine. Once one of the other 6 guys gets hurt, Davis will get his chance.


I figure Kuzma to start. He started every game he was healthy last year and we have not added a PF to take that spot. His late game Robert Horry impersonations (dollar store Big Shot Bob) and his rebounding fill a significant role, whatever the +/- numbers say. Yes John Collins might look better in this role, but Kuzma has added playmaking to his resume, earning his first career triple double. I think Wes trusts him. Hopefully his streakiness irons out.

That gives us offensive players needing touches at 4 positions, we'd need defense and a screen setter. I would not be surprised to see Avdija as a glue guy on this unit. Especially if Delon Wright joins the starters instead of Morris. A Delon/Deni line makes our defense passable, slows penetration enough for Porzingis to get into position to block.

Kispert, Barton, Rui is where the dogfight happens. I think Kispert wins out more often than you might think. His BBIQ, off ball motion, smart cuts to the basket and outside shooting all make him one of those coaches' pet type players. If his defense is passable, and if his ball handling is good enough to DHO, he will take minutes from others.

But I think all 3 will get minutes. Rui is our only option at back-up PF, unless Wes tries the GadgetZingus ultrabig line for extended minutes (that Gafford/Zinger/Kuzma set made me grin). Still, Rui's man-on defense is reliable against all players 6'8" and up. If you need someone to slow down Giannis or LeBJ a little, Rui is pretty much your only hope. His added range on open jumpers makes him a playable asset even if the rest of his game is still slow to pick up.

Will the Thrill adds an unpredictable game and energy that should feast on back-ups if he comes off the bench. I don't know his defense well enough to know if he beats out Kispert to start the game though. If we start Morris we will need a long strong defender in that spot. So however the Delon/Monte battle works out will affect the Kispert/Barton dynamic.

I do think Davis will get minutes though. Not solely from injury (knock wood) but because he will be the hardest working player on and off the floor. Its fine for me if he has to fight his way onto the court though. The rookie wall is a real thing, to nearly triple the number of games you play, plus travel and back to backs, all sap your energy. Davis plays such a high effort style that I'd almost want him on a load management plan to start his career even if all the minutes were available. At least until he has worked for a full year and offseason with strength & conditioning trainers and added a few low-effort moves to his game. Like a 3 pt shot. Or a misdirection move, step back, something more reliable and less high risk than driving into the paint for a diving lay-up. Because he is going to defend like a small tornado and try to rebound among the trees. He will need elbow pads and a crash helmet. But that effort on D will earn him trust and minutes, as the season goes along.



It's going to be interesting... I'm sure Wes doesn't want to repeat the drama of last season. Barton started 71 games last season, but has come off the bench most of his career. But either starting or off the bench he usually plays 28+ min a game.

Kispert played well to close out the season, and I expect they want to continue that momentum. But he was playing SG, and seemed to find a comfort there.

Davis seems ideal as a backup to Beal to ease him in to the NBA, as kind of a mini-Brad, but I expect they envision a starting backcourt of Beal & Davis eventually. Plus, how often does Brad sit? So , I think he'll get some minutes at PG & small ball SF as well as SG, similar to the role formally belonging to Jerome Robinson & Neto.

I do agree with Nate that Wright makes more sense with Beal, his size and defense would be very useful to help compensate for Beal's weaknesses , especially his perimeter D and effort on that end. Morris should pair well with Davis and his outside shooting will compliment Davis' dribble drive game.

Rui is also prime for a bigger role this season. I think they are still high on Rui's upside and potential to take the next step, and they need to know how good he can be with his contract coming up for renewal. I think he starts with Kuzma, with the 2 of them pretty interchangeable between PF & SF.

My prediction on rotation to start the season...

Porzingis, Rui, Kuz, Beal, Wright

Gafford, Deni, Barton, Davis, Morris

Gill, Kispert

I like the size & length of the starting 5, KP in the middle with his versatility on offense, scoring inside, his 3pt shot, passing from the high post to an open Rui or Kuz, or Beal coming off a screen, pick and roll, pick and pop... The length on D with KP, Rui, Kuz, with Kuz focused on rebounds, Delon locking the perimeter...

The 2nd unit with Gafford blocking shots, Deni and Davis getting up on people on D, Barton and Morris with veteran composure and 3pt shooting. Can come in with Kispert at SG/SF or Gill PF/C.

This team may lack talent, outside of Porzingis, and Beal, hopefully Rui & Kuz, but it's pretty loaded with IQ and effort guys like Wright, Davis, Kispert, Deni, Gaff, Gill, Barton, Morris.

As Nate pointed out, I am somewhat concerned about the leadership ability of Beal. Especially after getting paid, and being annointed the face of the franchise. His lack of effort on D, and his ball domination and shot domination on offense hopefully won't sap the competitiveness of the team.

The team overall roster has a dog mentality, a blue collar workman identity, defense and hustle... And the coach is going to preach these mantras of getting after it, ball movement, communication, defense... But it needs to come from the top down, or it could all unravel.

As a fan, I'm just hoping to see them play hard, fight on D, contest penetration, share the ball, off ball movement, find the open man, get the loose balls, get the rebounds, team chemistry, consistent effort.
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Post#417 » by doclinkin » Sat Jul 2, 2022 9:15 pm

Interestingly playing with shot charts, if you have to play Porzingis and Beal together, from an offensive standpoint it looks like you get the best synergy with:

Monte. Wing shooting from all around the arc. HIgh and at the corners both/
Beal. Mid-range.
[urlhttps://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=will+barton+shot+chart+2020-2021]Barton[/url]. Solid shooting from both corners.
Hachimura. Messy shot chart but efficient relative to the spots he shoots. Needs better shot selection.
Porzingis. Skilled shooting at all spots down the middle. Though his 3 ball hits from the spot where Brad initiates, which makes for a good pick and pop option.

and a 2nd line-up of

Delon. shoots well from the 3 above the break, on either side
Kispert. Outside and inside efficiency. Smart cuts.
Avdija Shooting is not great but distributes well.
Kuzma. Not efficient anywhere. This surprised me. But he draws defenders.
Gafford. Needs a pass.

I'd want to play Monte with Rui and Gafford, both of whom need a savvy floor general to maximize their games. Gafford because he is an entirely pass dependent player, Rui because he ought to be. It is interesting to see that Rui shoots better than league average from most of the spots on the floor that he takes a shot, the problem is he takes a ton of shots from areas that are inefficient. With a true point guard he can be hit with a pass when he is in the right position to take a shot and not have to think it through or dribble into trouble.

So maybe it works better like:
Delon -- Monte
Beal -- Barton
Kispert -- Avdija
Kuzma-- Rui
Zinger -- Gafford
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Post#418 » by doclinkin » Sat Jul 2, 2022 9:20 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:My prediction on rotation to start the season...

Porzingis, Rui, Kuz, Beal, Wright

Gafford, Deni, Barton, Davis, Morris

Gill, Kispert



I can see that but I don't think Kispert loses his spot to Davis. They were surprised that he fought his way into the rotation but once there I don't think he slips out of it all that easily. He plays efficient ball that will only look better next to a true PG in Monte. Davis is a rookie and his game will require some re-tooling to fit the NBA. Unless he comes into the league with a jumper he built ion the offseason.
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Re: Line-ups, rotation, analysis thread. 

Post#419 » by tleikheen » Sat Jul 2, 2022 9:38 pm

The lineup i want to see for winning time is :

(PG) Bradley Beal
(SG) Avidja
(SF) Kuzma
(PF) Hachimura
(C) Porzingus

With all the big PG's there's no reason Beal and Kuzma and Avidja cant bring the ball up the court. The Wiz have long limbed players and this should be the focus than an undersized backcourt of Morris and Beal would bring . For the Wiz to be relevant Beal should play the Luka ,Lebron ,Lilliard,Smart,Harden,DLo,Holiday roll and put pressure on the other teams Generals. Also the Wiz can play big and long establishing their own team identity .
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Re: Line-ups, rotation, analysis thread. 

Post#420 » by bsilver » Sat Jul 2, 2022 10:03 pm

Pretty much agreement on most things, with uncertainty of playing time at backup SG and starting/backup SF. And most think these Wizards are just competing for last playoff/playin spots.

But after first month of mediocrity a way forward develops. The team is more successful playing tough defense and focusing on good ball movement.

We see the following changes:
PG - After splitting time, the defense minded Wright impresses and time now 28/20.
SG - Beal continues decline started last year with poor defense, < 30% 3 pt shooting, high TOV, and unjustifiable high usage. Johnny Davis impresses with defense, and even better than expected offense - takes over starting spot.
SF - Deni Avdija shows major offensive improvement. Along with his previously known defense, and good rebounding, now showing all star potential. Now starting at SF, playing 32 min/game.
PF - RUI continues hot 3pt shooting. Now over previous problems, and focusing on BB, game continues to improve. Kuzma playing well, but now off the bench.
C - Seeing value of a spread offense, and Carey showing 3 pt shooting he demonstrated at Duke, he now becomes part of rotation. KP down to 24 min/game to stay healthy.
Kispert continues good team play and takes over major playing time from Barton.

Just fantasy, but I think Avdija really has potential to be much better, and Beal does not help this team.
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