Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux

Post #721 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:39 pm

A little bit of quietness today or will we see some more fireworks?

Bob Ross · Post #722 » by **Bob Ross** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:45 pm

Randle for Hayward. Speak it into existence. Makes even more sense with the Miles Bridges debacle

Juco24 · Post #723 » by **Juco24** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:47 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:A little bit of quietness today or will we see some more fireworks?

We need to find out who's going to Dolans 4th of July party!!!

3toheadmelo · Post #724 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:48 pm

Juco24 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:A little bit of quietness today or will we see some more fireworks?

We need to find out who's going to Dolans 4th of July party!!!

Word is felton is there again

newyorker4ever · Post #725 » by **newyorker4ever** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:50 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Brunson/Rose
RJ/IQ
Cam/Fournier
Randle/Obi
Mitch/Hartenstein/Randle

Would like to play Cam but feels like defenders will shade in

Brunson/Rose
IQ/RJ
Grimes/Cam
Obi/Randle
Hartenstein/Mitch/Randle

There. That's better.

For me i'm starting Grimes at SG for his shooting and defense.

Brunson/Rose/IQ
Grimes/IQ
RJ/Cam
Randle/Obi
Mitch/Hart

spree8 · Post #726 » by **spree8** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:53 pm

Reign23 wrote:
spree8 wrote:If no other moves this summer and we keep Randle & Fournier, then Leon, WWW, Thibs, etc all gotta go before next draft. Get a real Gm in this bytch

bro you need draft assets to dump those guys and they are not willing to do that at the moment. which is perfectly fine to me.
I would love to dump Randle as much as anybody, but going into the season with him and look if he plays better then last year isn't the worst idea right now. if there is a possibilty to straight out trade him for an expiring or so, we should be all over it. no doubt.

but overall, the FO did a very good job this offseason. I don't know how people can see it differenty..
sure we didn't get a mega superduper star, but:

- we finally have a good young PG
- we have more future draft picks
- we still have all the young players with potential
- we shipped out 3 vets who have no future with the franchise

We don’t need draft picks to dump Randle & Fournier. Reports were that teams were interested in Randle for similar value, but it wasn’t bad enough where we had to add picks. It’s just that the FO wants more in return and is apparently willing to keep him in order to give him a chance to up his value.

Fournier, for as much as we dislike him (no defense, taking PT from the youth, and wasting the cap we wanted to save for a top FA) has value and selling points (breaking a franchise 3pt record). We won’t have to add picks like Kemba and to a lesser extent Noel since he was packaged with Burks. And in all honesty, at this point, if we absolutely had to, I would toss in 2 more 2nd’s to do it. I just don’t think his value is that low around the league.

Dave DaButcher · Post #727 » by **Dave DaButcher** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:57 pm

Read on Twitter

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Started right, ended wrong. Let's make it up to Pat by constructing a team of winners we can all be proud of.

FrozenEnvelope · Post #728 » by **FrozenEnvelope** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:02 pm

Dave DaButcher wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Started right, ended wrong. Let's make it up to Pat by constructing a team of winners we can all be proud of.

Knicks twitter and this board would have hated Ewing and the 90s Knicks.

Juco24 · Post #729 » by **Juco24** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:03 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:A little bit of quietness today or will we see some more fireworks?

We need to find out who's going to Dolans 4th of July party!!!

Word is felton is there again

Post #730 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:07 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:A little bit of quietness today or will we see some more fireworks?

We need to find out who's going to Dolans 4th of July party!!!

Word is felton is there again

Dolan will step in and give Felton the spot after he eats 30 hot dogs in 2 minutes

DaGawd · Post #731 » by **DaGawd** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:09 pm

Gravy wrote:FO could be targeting someone in next year's draft like they did with Ivey. They wont tell us a year in advance we just have to wait.

I can assure you this FO ain’t thinking about next years draft at all

Bob Ross · Post #732 » by **Bob Ross** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:10 pm

Dave DaButcher wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Started right, ended wrong. Let's make it up to Pat by constructing a team of winners we can all be proud of.

If we ever get to contention level, we need to bring Pat back in some meaningful position to get him a NYK ring. He deserves it

8516knicks · Post #733 » by **8516knicks** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:25 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Brunson/Rose
RJ/IQ
Cam/Fournier
Randle/Obi
Mitch/Hartenstein/Randle

Would like to play Cam but feels like defenders will shade in

Brunson/Rose
IQ/RJ
Grimes/Cam
Obi/Randle
Hartenstein/Mitch/Randle

There. That's better.

I see what u did there! 8-)

8516knicks · Post #734 » by **8516knicks** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:29 pm

Bob Ross wrote:
Dave DaButcher wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Started right, ended wrong. Let's make it up to Pat by constructing a team of winners we can all be proud of.

If we ever get to contention level, we need to bring Pat back in some meaningful position to get him a NYK ring. He deserves it

“I’ve been here a long time and I want to be here when we win a championship. I’m glad I’ll finish my career here in New York. These fans deserve a championship”

— 12-year-vet Patrick Ewing upon signing a 4-year, $68 million contract with the Knicks, on this day 2500 years ago -- fixed

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dukeknicksirish · Post #735 » by **dukeknicksirish** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:35 pm

Getting married today, so won’t have my phone on me. Doubt anything happens anyway but hope to turn it back on to see new faces on the team

Juco24 · Post #736 » by **Juco24** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:38 pm

dukeknicksirish wrote:Getting married today, so won’t have my phone on me. Doubt anything happens anyway but hope to turn it back on to see new faces on the team

CONGRATULATIONS

KnixinSix · Post #737 » by **KnixinSix** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:39 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Gravy wrote:FO could be targeting someone in next year's draft like they did with Ivey. They wont tell us a year in advance we just have to wait.

I can assure you this FO ain’t thinking about next years draft at all

I think they felt Ivey was a player who could impact quickley at a position of high need and not be a 3 or 4 year kind of developmental guy.

Teams try to fall on one side of the fence or the other. On the fence is a team good enough for 32+ wins up to low playoff seed and being a likely first round exit. Those teams are basically either non lotto or fringe lotto and its much harder to score a stud after 10 in the draft (doesn't mean it never happens but percentages drop significantly). We probably belive with another stud player (like D Mitch) we are a 3-5 seed and can potentially go a few rounds deep.

Right or wrong, also they probably believe there is still a lot of untapped potential on the roster to maybe even be better than that.

I have no issue with them trying to go for it. At minumum you are an infinitely more exciting team full of young prime exciting players and have structured your team to be attractive for another stud FA down the road if you have to.

Gravy · Post #738 » by **Gravy** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:42 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Gravy wrote:FO could be targeting someone in next year's draft like they did with Ivey. They wont tell us a year in advance we just have to wait.

I can assure you this FO ain’t thinking about next years draft at all

We riot if they dont draft all 5 picks next year.

Whatever they decide it will probably not be until next year unless they REALLY want D Mitchell right now

Bob Ross · Post #739 » by **Bob Ross** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:42 pm

dukeknicksirish wrote:Getting married today, so won’t have my phone on me. Doubt anything happens anyway but hope to turn it back on to see new faces on the team

Congratulations! A lifetime of happiness to you and yours

Clyde_Style · Post #740 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:45 pm

We still have:

Obi
Cam
IQ
Grimes
Sims
McBride
RJ
Mitch

We did not unload a single one of them so far, but we did add a legit PG

They used our journeyman vets and picks to engineer this so far

That doesn’t mean they won’t package some of our youth in a future deal, but I think the implications so far is the franchise may finally be committed to sustaining a pipeline of developing players

Several of our youths are going to have very good and long NBA careers. In the past they would have been gone already, but they’re still here

So things are not the Same Old Same Old as past FO’s so far. There are differences if you stop bitching for a moment and pay attention to things as they actually are