Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

[Netaman]

Yes, we raptor fans are lucky ujiri doesn't bow to pressure and make dumb mistakes (drafting barnes over Suggs, derozan trade). He's made tough trades if necessary tho (jv for gasol).

Yes, staying put maybe the best move for your gm. Phoenix needs to strike if they wish to keep their contention window open.

Pelicans, wolves maybe your best option

Much like someone reported, I feel theres no good trade out there right now for KD.

Contenders don’t have the assets, and non contenders won’t leverage the future for 2 years of KD. KD is still a top 5 player, but the days of him being able to carry a team alone are over. Non contender teams would have to gut too much of their roster to have anything left worth pairing with KD.

The only trade that makes any sense is Barnes, but Masai does not leverage the future, even when he goes all in. He got Kawhi while keeping FVV/Siakam/OG at the time, and this time he would not trade Barnes/Precious.

Masai calls on everything available simply to see if he can fleece them, I don’t think there’s anything serious here. I’d bet his offer is something weak like OG + GTJ and picks.

How does Phoenix not make sense? How else are they getting better with Ayton walking and an owner who doesn't spend? How many more years is cp3 going to be bionic?

They are losing Ayton anyway so they are basically going from Bridges --> KD for draft picks. And they just extended Booker so they should have a decent floor on how bad they get over the draft pick window.

[anotherhomer]

It's Ayton plus Bridge for KD....
they downgrade on center, but get a huge upgrade at SF

Yes, we raptor fans are lucky ujiri doesn't bow to pressure and make dumb mistakes (drafting barnes over Suggs, derozan trade). He's made tough trades if necessary tho (jv for gasol).

Yes, staying put maybe the best move for your gm. Phoenix needs to strike if they wish to keep their contention window open.

Pelicans, wolves maybe your best option

Much like someone reported, I feel theres no good trade out there right now for KD.

Contenders don’t have the assets, and non contenders won’t leverage the future for 2 years of KD. KD is still a top 5 player, but the days of him being able to carry a team alone are over. Non contender teams would have to gut too much of their roster to have anything left worth pairing with KD.

The only trade that makes any sense is Barnes, but Masai does not leverage the future, even when he goes all in. He got Kawhi while keeping FVV/Siakam/OG at the time, and this time he would not trade Barnes/Precious.

Masai calls on everything available simply to see if he can fleece them, I don’t think there’s anything serious here. I’d bet his offer is something weak like OG + GTJ and picks.

How does Phoenix not make sense? How else are they getting better with Ayton walking and an owner who doesn't spend? How many more years is cp3 going to be bionic?

They are losing Ayton anyway so they are basically going from Bridges --> KD for draft picks. And they just extended Booker so they should have a decent floor on how bad they get over the draft pick window.

[Netaman]

It's Ayton plus Bridge for KD....
they downgrade on center, but get a huge upgrade at SF

correct - but they are already downgrading at center because ayton leaving seems to be a foregone conclusion. so that's my point - what's their alternative? let Ayton walk, possibly for nothing, and waste cp3's final year/years? KD isn't just an upgrade, when healthy the last 2 years he played at an MVP level. it's possible the nets could flip back claxton or harris too.

[Mulhollanddrive]

What's poutine?

[Hello Brooklyn]

All of these reports prove how much of a **** idiot Durant is. Seriously.

Any team he is traded too will be utterly gutted because of KD's value on a 4 year deal. He likely won't be able to seriously contend on any team he gets traded to.

The stupid trade rules make it even less likely.

The Nets CLEARLY need an 25 or under all star player back in any deal. Or its not worth it for them at all.

AND the team Durant has currently Simmons/Kyrie is by far better than any team he would get traded too. Does he seriously think him, Booker and 40 year old Chris Paul are beating the Warriors and Clippers? Teams will multiple all stars and great depth.

Durant showed no **** foresight in making this trade demand. The much smarter move was to settle down with Kyrie and tell him to run it back. If the Nets were contenders and had good chemistry Kyrie wouldn't want to leave anyway.

But KD is a bitch and is always looking for an easy way out.

Now hes **** over everyone. Even if we bring him back the Nets chemistry will be so toxic we will be lucky to make the play in.

**** this snake. I hope to God he doesn't go to Phoenix and has to spend his days toiling away in Canada.

Toiling away in Canada? Haha
If you're representative of the average Brooklyn fan, I think that Durant and Kyrie are perfect for your franchise.

Canada doesn't want that ugly mf with his **** attitude. Totonto is a successful franchise and has standards, unlike the nets organization and fans like you

Oh God. Here come the butthurt Candians.

I like Toronto. Its a fun city.

But its the last place most NBA players want to be. They don't want to play in another country.

We saw it with Vince. We saw it with Kawhi. We saw it with Bosh.

Get over yourself. And stop lurking the Nets board and getting in your feelings.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Kyrie realizing he won't go to the Lakers and KD realizing he won't go to the Suns?

Will they come crawling back? I doubt it.

At this point ship them to the highest bitter and be done with it.

Send KD to Canada and send Kyrie to Orlando.

Durant is such a clown. Any team that trades for him will regret it.

If Boston offers Brown, Smart and draft picks i wouldn't hesitate to send Durant there, so he can be clowned relentlessly for being traded to the team that humiliated him

Boston offer is perfect.

If thats on the table I would take it even if KD wants to stay.

Simmons, Brown, Smart. I really think it could be a contender in the East in a year or two.

[NyCeEvO]

What would you guys realistically want for Simmons?

Keep in mind that if you trade Simmons, it allows you to get back guys like Bam in a KD trade where previously you couldn't.

I am certainly open to the idea of trading Simmons.

We don’t know if he’ll recover 100% from back surgery.

We don’t know when he’ll be mentally ready to play.

History suggests that he won’t put in the work to improve his shooting ability (which is a skill needed more than ever before in the past from all players).

There are too many unknown variables to make solid prediction about Ben’s level of play upon return and into the future. Depending on the offer, I’d definitely consider it.

[NyCeEvO]

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lol dude is a coward.

Unless we don't get a high end prospect, a serviceable starter and 4 1sts/3 pick swaps, he can sit his ass down. The Nets have no obligation to do anything for his benefit anymore

It's funny how hard he trys to be real, but is so transparently fake.

I don’t think it’s fake, but I do think he’s deflecting.

I think he wants to convince himself that he’s not all of the things his critics say he is by talking “tough” (to no one directly I might add) so thousands of player fans can reassure him that he’s ‘the best player in the world,’ didn’t make any mistakes, and has every right to do what he’s doing.

I lose respect for people who talk a big game to everyone but the person they have an issue with and/or will talk about how great they are. It wreaks of insecurity and immaturity.

It’s funny how so many of these guys talk about how much they hate the drama, just want to ball and be appreciated for their skill, but will sidetalk and subtweet on Twitter for likes to create more drama.

Just look at Kyrie with the ‘bird being released from a cage’ GIF with no caption posted to Twitter yesterday/today. He’s fishing for comments and responses to we’ve his own ego. These guys say they hate drama, but they’re always creating it themselves.

[gigantes]

[Netaman]

Here are hollinger's 5 Kevin Durant trades that make (some) sense.
https://theathletic.com/3397313/2022/07/02/kevin-durant-trade-proposals/

cliff notes:
1. Phoenix sending nets picks+ Bridges/Cam Johnson + filler with Ayton going to Utah (and Utah sending Phoenix picks).

2. Simmons + KD to Miami for basically their whole team minus Jimmy Butler (Bam, Herro, Lowry, Robinson).

3. Both Kyrie and KD to Lakers for AD.

4. KD to LAC for George++.

5. KD to Toronto likely for 2 out of Siakam, VanVleet, OG. He's a no on trading Barnes.

like most he sees Phoenix and Toronto as the 2 most likely destinations.

[NyCeEvO]

Exactly what I mean. Pure deflection. KD should’ve been ratioed, but there are too many stans who prefer to join in clowning the guy rather than be mature and acknowledge that he has valid questions.


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[NyCeEvO]

As a raps fan I’m genuinely rooting for you guys to get quality return for Durant after everything these goons put you through. However I will say, there is 0% chance you are getting Scottie Barnes in any trade, I promise that. Most likely it won’t work out with us because of that

Thank you.

While the fanbase has grown because of stans, i feel bad for the real fans especially those of us who followed the team back in NJ. Whenever the franchise finally seems poised to gain relevance, something catastrophic happens.

[NyCeEvO]

DO NOT BE SURPRISED if this was the dirtiest game of CHICKEN ever and come Monday KD and Kyrie are back with the Nets with a few concessions and apologies sorted out over the weekend....

Be careful here...

I want them both gone. Durant is a headcase just like Kyrie is. We'll never win with them

I don’t think KD is a head case. I just think he’s not a leader and he deflects to avoid addressing it.

When Barkley said he wasn’t a bus driver, KD said he was just mad because he’s not making the money todays players are making. Instead of addressing valid criticism head on, he always responds with ad hominem attacks.

[MGrand15]

Those demands are the dumbest thing I've heard. If any of that is true, they're just trying to get their boys paid. There's no turning back now.

Those Hollinger trades are awful. Just terrible. The jazz just got 3 rotation players + 4 first round picks and a 1 pick swap. Some of those deals he brought up are worse than that haul.

[NyCeEvO]

I'm not buying nets disinterest with Ayton. He's a really good young center. former 1oa pick. efficient. plays d. i get that simmons can't shoot and you want floor spacers but claxton can't shoot either. what attainable center can? beggars can't exactly be choosers.

If the Nets truly believed in Claxton, they would’ve signed him to his max of 4yr/$55mil. I take his 2yr/$20mil contract as a prove it deal.

[MrDollarBills]

Exactly what I mean. Pure deflection. KD should’ve been ratioed, but there are too many stans who prefer to join in clowning the guy rather than be mature and acknowledge that he has valid questions.


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KD is a coward and runs from adversity. How shameless do you have to be to do what he's doing?

[MrDollarBills]

Those demands are the dumbest thing I've heard. If any of that is true, they're just trying to get their boys paid. There's no turning back now.

Those Hollinger trades are awful. Just terrible. The jazz just got 3 rotation players + 4 first round picks and a 1 pick swap. Some of those deals he brought up are worse than that haul.

This has been their MO from day 1 though. They got the Nets to give DeAndre Jordan a contract no one else would give him and they made his shooting coach apart of the staff.

All of these trades suck. We need to ship Kyrie out and tell Durant to either show up or he's effectively retired starting this fall.

[MrDollarBills]

DO NOT BE SURPRISED if this was the dirtiest game of CHICKEN ever and come Monday KD and Kyrie are back with the Nets with a few concessions and apologies sorted out over the weekend....

Be careful here...

I want them both gone. Durant is a headcase just like Kyrie is. We'll never win with them

I don’t think KD is a head case. I just think he’s not a leader and he deflects to avoid addressing it.

When Barkley said he wasn’t a bus driver, KD said he was just mad because he’s not making the money todays players are making. Instead of addressing valid criticism head on, he always responds with ad hominem attacks.

Demanding a trade because the Nets refused to pay a part time player a quarter billion dollars is definitely some headcase stuff. Durant is clearly out of step with reality.

[gigantes]

I'm not buying nets disinterest with Ayton. He's a really good young center. former 1oa pick. efficient. plays d. i get that simmons can't shoot and you want floor spacers but claxton can't shoot either. what attainable center can? beggars can't exactly be choosers.

If the Nets truly believed in Claxton, they would’ve signed him to his max of 4yr/$55mil. I take his 2yr/$20mil contract as a prove it deal.

I would've done the same if I'm Marks. The guy is injured every season, and has only averaged 31g across his career, even less than Kyrie did for the Nets. I'm also concerned that he doesn't seem to have added much strength to his frame across three years, I would guess part of why he's a little bit stuck in the tweener abyss at this point.

...claxton can't shoot either.

He showed that ability in college, starting out as a 36% 3pt shooter. I also seem to recall video of him shooting in practice, and his form looked solid IIRC. I understand it's been a win-now team, but if I'm the coaching staff, I'd still have him keep practicing his shot to keep his potential and future usefulness more wide-open. Maybe that ship's already sailed, but.. *shrug*

[djsunyc]

gobert got a ton of picks b/c no real nba level talent was moved in that deal to utah. only filler.

nets are asking for legit players in return...so the pick compensation should be much lower. i think the offers that are coming in from good to great teams are for 2 starter level players and maybe 2-3 picks. i don't see that changing much even if the nets hold on to him until the deadline. i don't see young studs like scottie being offered. in fact, i can't think of any other young potential stud at that level being offered.

it's a really tough situation b/c kd wants a winning team but a winning team moving 2-3 starters for him leave that team a bit gutted.

part of me thinks you just dump kyrie and have kd play the year and see how it plays out. maybe his feelings change about the situation? really tough to say.

flip side is to cut bait, cleanse the franchise and start the transition.