[HAYNES] Nets and Lakers actively talking Russ/Kyrie trade…

[Ballerhogger]

I’m guessing LA agreed to 2 picks which is why they are pushing for Curry over Harris.

Most likely which seems fair

[CIN-C-STAR]

If I'm the Nets, I ask for at least 3 first round picks, unprotected. Lakers are desperate. Gotta take advantage of it.

Kyrie Irving ain't netting no three 1st round picks, that's freaking insane.

i think that poster was just joking. i mean there's no way that could be a serious post

2 FRPs seems pretty reasonable though, no?
One for Kyrie and a second for taking on Westbrook's craptastic contract.
If I'm the Nets I'd not open negotiations asking for anything less.

[CallMeKahn]

It was fun for the Lakers to be a complete joke for a year, but I hope they can cobble together a roster who can at least make things interesting.

Oh it'll be interesting alright.

[dockingsched]

If I'm the Nets, I ask for at least 3 first round picks, unprotected. Lakers are desperate. Gotta take advantage of it.

Desperate? We’ve resisted the Wall rumors, the Hornets rumors, the Knicks rumors, etc…Pelinka made it clear they have no intention of giving up a first round pick in any of those garbage offers. Kryie is a different animal altogether, well worth the risk.

Then the Nets should simply hang up the phone. There's no point in taking on Westbrooke if the net result for them is the same as keeping Irving. The Lakers want Irving and don't want another wasted year with LeBron and AD? Great, Pay the kings ransom or go ahead and keep Westbrook.

KD has demanded a trade and Kyrie wants out and can walk away next summer for nothing. Gotta realize the nets are also desperate. These are not two teams in positions to demand kings ransoms.

[Jedi32]

Kyrie Irving ain't netting no three 1st round picks, that's freaking insane.

i think that poster was just joking. i mean there's no way that could be a serious post

2 FRPs seems pretty reasonable though, no?
One for Kyrie and a second for taking on Westbrook's craptastic contract.
If I'm the Nets I'd not open negotiations asking for anything less.

if reports are true then kyrie plans on being a laker next year anyway. why overpay when most teams won't bid on a guy who's expiring and makes no secret about where he's headed once his contract expires? no way am i giving up 2 frp. i highly doubt rob will either.

[druggas]

It would be good for ratings if Lakers and Nets trade with each other.
Half of the people would root for the Lakers, the other half would root for the Lakers to fail. It's a win win for the NBA.

[gorz]

I find it extremely hard to believe lakers are the only team in the league that wants kyrie. Even with all the "baggage" Ben Simmons who refused to play for the season and is less than half the player kyrie is was still coveted by a couple teams. If the nets make that trade and give the lakers what they want they are the biggest joke moreso than the kings. This seems more like a desperate ploy by the media and those who run the league to orchestrate this trade and give lebron one last push for title and keep one of the most storied franchises relevant.

[NyKnicks1714]

One for Kyrie and a second for taking on Westbrook's craptastic contract.

Why do some people keep mentioning Westbrook's contract as a bad thing? An expiring contract is never a bad contract. In terms of salary this is either a push or a win for Brooklyn, depending on if they include Curry or Harris, respectively.

[Wolves21]

Depends on the picks the Nets get,but if they can get 2 1st round picks I would say this is a big win for them.I think a Westbrook/Simmons teaming could still be a playoff team in the EAST.Think those two working with Nash could do wonders and that Westbrook is going to have a serious rebound season.Being in his early 30's and what would now be his 5th team where going to see the best he has left to offer.

[TheGOATWill]

Nets gotta be deregulated to the g-league if they give up Kyrie AND Seth Curry for Westbrick

Depends on BKs strategy. If they intend to re-rack for 23 FA or the next disgruntled star clearing the books makes some sense.

[hoosierdaddy34]

It is hilarious to watch the Lakers haters get their panties in a bunch over this. If this was any other team but the Lakers they would say an expiring contract, a first and getting off a bad contract for a player they don’t want is steal for the Nets. But it’s the Lakers so we see a bunch of dumb “the nets are letting the Lakers off the hook” or “I can’t believe the Nets are folding” comments. League execs don’t have the Lakers filling their head with hate like many of you do, they are just out to make a deal that is good for their team.

By the way I’m fairly certain this trade ends up being Harris and not Seth, and that THT may be included with that first and Westbrook.

[Pythagoras]

I find it extremely hard to believe lakers are the only team in the league that wants kyrie. Even with all the "baggage" Ben Simmons who refused to play for the season and is less than half the player kyrie is was still coveted by a couple teams. If the nets make that trade and give the lakers what they want they are the biggest joke of franchise moreso than the kings.

Ben Simmons had 4 years left on his deal, and teams wanted him because they thought they could get him for a bag of peanuts. I’m sure there are other teams that would be willing to swap expirings with the Nets for Kyrie. Who else is willing to take a bad contact from them, AND give them picks?

[Pythagoras]

It is hilarious to watch the Lakers haters get their panties in a bunch over this. If this was any other team but the Lakers they would say an expiring contract, a first and getting off a bad contract for a player they don’t want is steal for the Nets. But it’s the Lakers so we see a bunch of dumb “the nets are letting the Lakers off the hook” or “I can’t believe the Nets are folding” comments. League execs don’t have the Lakers filling their head with hate like many of you do, they are just out to make a deal that is good for their team.

It’s particularly ridiculous when you see what some of these other team’s fans are offering for Kevin freaking Durant.

[Michael Jackson]

One for Kyrie and a second for taking on Westbrook's craptastic contract.

Why do some people keep mentioning Westbrook's contract as a bad thing? An expiring contract is never a bad contract. In terms of salary this is either a push or a win for Brooklyn, depending on if they include Curry or Harris, respectively.

Because capspace means way less these days. If it was a legendary FA class like 2010.... yup that would be a hot commodity but the world done changed. Most player movement isn't a big FA signing anymore so the cap space is way less attractive. There was a time though

[youngcrev]

I'm not sure why some are acting like the Lakers don't need this a helluva lot more than the Nets.

Westbrook is a bad basketball player at this point, making 47M, at the tail end of LeBron's career. Kyrie may be a hail mary, but he's pretty much their only shot at getting a player that's good enough to put them back into contention.

I get that the Nets don't have a ton of options here... But it's not like they'd actually want Russell Westbrook on the team. Without some decent compensation coming back they'd be better off paying Kyrie to stay home.

[marcush]

I find it extremely hard to believe lakers are the only team in the league that wants kyrie. Even with all the "baggage" Ben Simmons who refused to play for the season and is less than half the player kyrie is was still coveted by a couple teams. If the nets make that trade and give the lakers what they want they are the biggest joke moreso than the kings. This seems more like a desperate ploy by the media and those who run the league to orchestrate this trade and give lebron one last push for title and keep one of the most storied franchises relevant.

I find it extremely hard to believe that Brooklyn would reject better deals from other teams to give the lakers what they want.

[mademan]

I'm not sure why some are acting like the Lakers don't need this a helluva lot more than the Nets.

Westbrook is a bad basketball player at this point, making 47M, at the tail end of LeBron's career. Kyrie may be a hail mary, but he's pretty much their only shot at getting a player that's good enough to put them back into contention.

I get that the Nets don't have a ton of options here... But it's not like they'd actually want Russell Westbrook on the team. Without some decent compensation coming back they'd be better off paying Kyrie to stay home.

Totally. 28 other teams in the league think Kyrie sitting at home getting paid and then expiring is better than WB doing the same+ 1st round pick. Why would the Nets think that?

[Hoop Heavy]

Why would the nets do this

Live by a cabal of spoiled superstars ... die by a cabal of spoiled superstars


fickle fickle fickle


Let me help you win ... trade Jarret Allen plus plus for Harden ... he'll help us win

Let me help you win ... trade Harden for Simmons ... Harden is a diva

Let me help you win ... sign Kyrie to an overpriced lengthy contract ... he'll help us win


Hey trade me ... you guys have a **** team and really don't want to win ... but don't take back so many good players cause I want to help my new team win


BYE!

[Michael Jackson]

It is hilarious to watch the Lakers haters get their panties in a bunch over this. If this was any other team but the Lakers they would say an expiring contract, a first and getting off a bad contract for a player they don’t want is steal for the Nets. But it’s the Lakers so we see a bunch of dumb “the nets are letting the Lakers off the hook” or “I can’t believe the Nets are folding” comments. League execs don’t have the Lakers filling their head with hate like many of you do, they are just out to make a deal that is good for their team.

By the way I’m fairly certain this trade ends up being Harris and not Seth, and that THT may be included with that first and Westbrook.

I think it has to be 2 FRP's honestly. 3 is silly but it will be 2. I mean Gobert got 4 and he didn't require taking Russ and it was a bad situation. I do think that this move makes sense for all sides too. Lakers can legit make a run next year and Nets can retool. A few months ago I couldn't see anyway to get out under Russ now this finally makes sense, really for both sides. Lakers are clearly Win now fo the the 2 FRP's is fine (sucks yeah but WIN NOW)

[youngcrev]

One for Kyrie and a second for taking on Westbrook's craptastic contract.

Why do some people keep mentioning Westbrook's contract as a bad thing? An expiring contract is never a bad contract. In terms of salary this is either a push or a win for Brooklyn, depending on if they include Curry or Harris, respectively.

Of course it is. It's not one with long-term implications, but paying a ton of your cap to a bad player is never a good thing. Curry has more on court value that Russ at this stage...