[HAYNES] Nets and Lakers actively talking Russ/Kyrie trade…

[Tor_Raps]

I'm sorry but the Mavs need to be all over this. Getting Kyrie for cheap will help ease the blow of losing Brunson.

With 1 year left on his contract, as soon as he becomes a huge distraction, just release the guy. He won't cost much at all if Westbrook and a pick is the best offer right now.

Why would the Mavs pay more than a pick to have Kyrie immediately become a distraction? And then you release him and he goes and signs with LA anyway? I think all interested parties have been apprised of the situation. Maybe Kyrie's mind changes and he opens up to other destinations, but if you think his camp hasn't talked to the other teams kicking the tires...

And what salary would Dallas send back? You'd lose depth, it wouldn't just be a shinier pick than the Lakers'.

The mavs need a real 2nd option after Kyrie. If they lose some of their depth for that then so be it. Anything they throw at the Nets would be better than what the Lakers could offer.

[levon]

I'm sorry but the Mavs need to be all over this. Getting Kyrie for cheap will help ease the blow of losing Brunson.

With 1 year left on his contract, as soon as he becomes a huge distraction, just release the guy. He won't cost much at all if Westbrook and a pick is the best offer right now.

Why would the Mavs pay more than a pick to have Kyrie immediately become a distraction? And then you release him and he goes and signs with LA anyway? I think all interested parties have been apprised of the situation. Maybe Kyrie's mind changes and he opens up to other destinations, but if you think his camp hasn't talked to the other teams kicking the tires...

And what salary would Dallas send back? You'd lose depth, it wouldn't just be a shinier pick than the Lakers'.

The mavs need a real 2nd option after Kyrie. If they lose some of their depth for that then so be it. Anything they throw at the Nets would be better than what the Lakers could offer.

You ignored literally everything I said.

[Tor_Raps]

Why would the Mavs pay more than a pick to have Kyrie immediately become a distraction? And then you release him and he goes and signs with LA anyway? I think all interested parties have been apprised of the situation. Maybe Kyrie's mind changes and he opens up to other destinations, but if you think his camp hasn't talked to the other teams kicking the tires...

And what salary would Dallas send back? You'd lose depth, it wouldn't just be a shinier pick than the Lakers'.

The mavs need a real 2nd option after Kyrie. If they lose some of their depth for that then so be it. Anything they throw at the Nets would be better than what the Lakers could offer.

You ignored literally everything I said.

My bad man... it's late and I didn't have the energy to respond to most of what you said. Maybe I'll try tomorrow lol

[MAMBAEMD]

I'm sorry but the Mavs need to be all over this. Getting Kyrie for cheap will help ease the blow of losing Brunson.

With 1 year left on his contract, as soon as he becomes a huge distraction, just release the guy. He won't cost much at all if Westbrook and a pick is the best offer right now.

Even if Cuban wanted to get Kyrie, I would think Luka would want nothing to do with him. Kyrie to the Mavs ain’t going to happen

[Das]

I would much rather trade for Kyrie. At least he won't actively make my team worse. Even if he's locked in his lead lined basement the whole year, he's at least not losing me games.

OT: Jorge Zedano is annoying af. He acts like he has sources and always try to contradict other peoples sources. He talked like he grew up in the streets but that guy went to a Catholic school. Anyways… that’s my rant. Hate hearing his voice here in LA.

[DelAbbot]

The egg on the Laker's face when Mavs swoops in and gets Kyrie...

[levon]

Mavs would need to add like THJ, Bullock just to match salaries. Would those guys for multiple years intrigue the Nets? Maybe. But you'd do it only if you talk to Kyrie and find out he'll indeed honor his contract. And even then, is he worth the loss in depth? Would you trust him not to change his mind?

The venn diagram of teams who are comfortable with dysfunction, risk tolerant because of their timeline and situation, are a preferred destination of the player asking out, feature the only player to have had success with such player, and have the requisite salary to match without sacrificing depth... there's only one team in the middle of it.

[Pointgod]

And now you understand the trade.

No one wants Kyrie and no one wants Westbrook so the Lakers have to add picks to get Kyrie? How does that make sense?

It's true that Lakers just have to outbid the competition, not themselves. But there are other subtleties. For example, if they want an expiring Seth, they'll have to compensate more. One way they could do that is by taking Harris back too but they've signaled they're not willing to have long-term money. Alternatively they can send Harris to a third team for cap space and the Lakers send some draft compensation to that team for accepting him.

The problem on the example that you provide is that the Lakers are still giving assets for a player no one wants to touch. I mean if they want to kick the tires on a Westbrook for Kyrie and Joe Harris trade with zero picks going back, then have at it. That’s the extent the Lakers should even entertain this rubbish.

Kyrie is self centred, toxic, injury prone and a horrible teammate. He’s left every team he’s played for on bad terms, the Lakers would have to be insane to believe that this would be any different.

[levon]

No one wants Kyrie and no one wants Westbrook so the Lakers have to add picks to get Kyrie? How does that make sense?

It's true that Lakers just have to outbid the competition, not themselves. But there are other subtleties. For example, if they want an expiring Seth, they'll have to compensate more. One way they could do that is by taking Harris back too but they've signaled they're not willing to have long-term money. Alternatively they can send Harris to a third team for cap space and the Lakers send some draft compensation to that team for accepting him.

The problem on the example that you provide is that the Lakers are still giving assets for a player no one wants to touch. I mean if they want to kick the tires on a Westbrook for Kyrie and Joe Harris trade with zero picks going back, then have at it. That’s the extent the Lakers should even entertain this rubbish.

Kyrie is self centred, toxic, injury prone and a horrible teammate. He’s left every team he’s played for on bad terms, the Lakers would have to be insane to believe that this would be any different.

I think they're actually insane. If you believe the reporting that they're gonna lock him up long term. It's a combo of insane and knowing that their future is actually relatively bright since their assets are restocked.

[marcush]

If Lebron really wants the deal then I think the upside of Irving is enough for them to take a risk. 2 FRPs and some cap savings should be enough for Brooklyn.

[Jagic Mohnson]

Mavs would need to add like THJ, Bullock just to match salaries. Would those guys for multiple years intrigue the Nets? Maybe. But you'd do it only if you talk to Kyrie and find out he'll indeed honor his contract. And even then, is he worth the loss in depth? Would you trust him not to change his mind?

The venn diagram of teams who are comfortable with dysfunction, risk tolerant because of their timeline and situation, are a preferred destination of the player asking out, feature the only player to have had success with such player, and have the requisite salary to match without sacrificing depth... there's only one team in the middle of it.

Nets are shedding salary via Westbrooks expiring deal. The Mavs players needed for a trade are signed till 2025 whch isnt ideal if you want to rebuild. Imagine having to wait till 2026 for a full rebuild because the gjuys you traded for dont expire till then because you want to stick it to the Lakers and eff yourselves as well.

[fart]

I am tired of the Kyrie slander. The guy is a top 5 scorer in the NBA. People acting like he chose to sit out last season. The Mayor of the city and the team owner literally barred him from playing basketball all so they could play political theater while everyone was losing their minds over vax mandates until the Yankees ended that charade.

Kyrie is still an incredible basketball player and would instantly take this sorry Laker team from a lottery team to a title contender assuming a healthy AD and LeBron.

I have no idea why people are trying to act like he's as bad as Westbrook and no team wants him. ANY title contender would jump at the opportunity to add this guy even if it's on a one year rental. You don't think a team like the Bucks would grab Kyrie immediately if given the opportunity for the right price? Of course they would. This Kyrie slander has to stop. All media nonsense to keep the LA team relevant.

[Lou84]

Please dear god make a Westbrook for Irving trade happen! Westbrook and Simmons will be hilarious. You can say what you want about Westbrook but he seems to be an outspoken dude. The perfect teammate for Ben lmao. My prediction if a Westbrook deal happens... Ben's back will hurt more than ever.
How could you get from KD, Irving, harden to Westbrook and Simmons???? If all that happens....that is the craziest downgrade in the history of sports imho. Filthy!

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[madmaxmedia]

Nets need to ask for every pick and pick swap that is available, obviously the Lakers will counter and say no one else wants him. Nets have a slight edge in leverage but it’s gonna come down to one question.

Who’s got the better poker face?

[Freighttrain]

Do people not realize Westbrook's value is more so a giant salary relief dump for the Nets than an actual viable player? They only take on 1 more year of his contract and clear 48 million of their books. Throw in some of our picks and it's an ideal trade for a rebuilding franchise I'd say

[WHITE_HOT_HEAT]

Anyone who thinks kyrie’s value is greater than Westbrook is high.

There isnt another team in the nba that wants kyrie. Lol.


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The Mavericks? The Heat if they don't get Kevin Durant? The Knicks if they didn't get Brunson? Trust me,there are still teams that want Kyrie. I mean there are a few teams who want Ben Simmons and he hasn't played in over a year,while also haven't developed a jumpshot whatsoever since coming to the NBA.

The HEAT?
GTFO... Just say you hate the Lakers and would jump over hoops to justify inane takes. Nobody on the HEAT wants any part of that absolute cancer, net negative attention hog..
I would imagine no team does in the NBA... Unless they want their franchise to die for the next year. Even the Lakers probably just want a distraction.

[th87]

Lakers fans are the ONLY people thinking that Russ and Kyrie is equal value. This is yet another example of Lakers "privilege".

Nets should tell Kyrie to sit at home rather than trade him if all they are getting is Westbrook.

Lemme ask you this... Who else wants Kyrie? I'll wait...

The Nets.

They're *far* better off rolling the dice with Kyrie again than getting anywhere near useless Westbrook.

[OriginalRed]

Do people not realize Westbrook's value is more so a giant salary relief dump for the Nets than an actual viable player? They only take on 1 more year of his contract and clear 48 million of their books. Throw in some of our picks and it's an ideal trade for a rebuilding franchise I'd say

Rebuilding for what? They traded all their picks to the Rockets.

[GunnerWRX]

From experience, we know all too well when it’s Chris Haynes but not WOJ/Shams, the source is from Klutch/LeBron.

Might be really happening, or not really. It just means that’s what LeBron wants. It’s done to create media talking point and pressure.

Chris Hanyes doing Klutch a favor in order to get other insider info later, on other stories.

[th87]

Lakers fans are the ONLY people thinking that Russ and Kyrie is equal value. This is yet another example of Lakers "privilege".

Nets should tell Kyrie to sit at home rather than trade him if all they are getting is Westbrook.

Lemme ask you this... Who else wants Kyrie? I'll wait...

Exactly.

No one wants Kyrie. That's the only reason Kyrie opted in is because he knew he was about to lose 30 million.

The Nets ALMOST HAVE to make a deal with the Lakers just to make sure they get assets. It's not that hard to understand unless people don't under just how toxic Kyrie is viewed.

Or they could just...keep him.

This is like burning down your house because your bathroom needs renovating.