We finna get Kyrie-d

[kblo247]

LeBron isn't getting traded unless he wants to get traded, and I doubt he's crazy about teaming up with simmons in Brooklyn... Plus that would be a massive overpay for KD and Kyrie.

And AD isn't getting traded unless it's for another high profile Klutch client...

So why not do Westbrook/AD for Kyrie/Simmons? That way Brooklyn gets to keep KD and pair him with AD... Klutch doesn't lose a client in LA... Simmons gets to his ultimate destination... We get younger and move away from oft-injured AD, and AD gets to pair up with KD...

AD has played in more games than Kyrie or KD … keep that in mind

[MAMBAEMD]

Rumor on the Net’s board is Kyrie and Joe Harris for Russ, a 1st, and a pick swap.

I can’t imagine why Marks and the Nets would do that.

But if it is really being discussed, Lakers are going all in to try to win next year.

[SlimShady83]

Rumor on the Net’s board is Kyrie and Joe Harris for Russ, a 1st, and a pick swap.

I can’t imagine why Marks and the Nets would do that.

But if it is really being discussed, Lakers are going all in to try to win next year.

I think Lakers trying to get Seth rather than Harris

[TylersLakers]

Rumor on the Net’s board is Kyrie and Joe Harris for Russ, a 1st, and a pick swap.

I can’t imagine why Marks and the Nets would do that.

But if it is really being discussed, Lakers are going all in to try to win next year.

I’m totally happy with this deal.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Harris is a better fit when healthy because is big enough to guard most two-guards and some SFs. Curry is best defending PGs, so he would be a bigger defensive liability when paired with Irving or Nunn.

I still think the Pelicans have the players and draft capital to get Irving and Durant with Ingram, McCollum, and Valanciunas (and picks).

[Freighttrain]

I don't get the negativity around Kyrie as supposed to keep Westbrook. I was barely getting through the regular-season games last year because of the roster and Westbrook's inability to read defenses. I got mentally exhausted just watching them lol. I know Kyrie has major personal issues, but at least we know he's going to be a great basketball fit next to LeBron & AD. I'd rather have a Kyrie that's playing 50-ish games than Westbrook's 82 games honestly. Hell, take a personal week off in the regular season for all I care. If we get Curry as well I'd say this is a pretty good deal, considering we're dead in the water in terms of trading Westbrook for other viable pieces or having a chance at a title if we don't trade him. That Hornets rumor with Hayward is a worse package than what the Nets are discussing.

[chefy]

Damn I didn’t know Pelicans are that stacked

[Eric Bieniemy]

:o Damn I didn’t know Pelicans are that stacked

Ingram, McCollum, Valanciunas, Tre Murphy, Kira Lewis, and any number of draft picks for Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant, and Joe Harris.

PG - Irving - Alvarado - Graham
SG - Jones - Harris - Temple
C - Williamson - Hayes - Matkovic
PF - Durant - Hernangomez - Liddell
SF - Nance - Daniels - Marshall

Brooklyn still gets a young all-star in Ingram and a bucket full of picks. Brooklyn would also get to satisfy their pettiness by blocking Irving from the Lakers and Durant from Phoenix.

New Orleans becomes an instant contender and weakens the Lakers (which helps them because they own so many their picks).

[mastermixer]

:o Damn I didn’t know Pelicans are that stacked

Ingram, McCollum, Valanciunas, Tre Murphy, Kira Lewis, and any number of draft picks for Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant, and Joe Harris.

PG - Irving - Alvarado - Graham
SG - Jones - Harris - Temple
C - Williamson - Hayes - Matkovic
PF - Durant - Hernangomez - Liddell
SF - Nance - Daniels - Marshall

Brooklyn still gets a young all-star in Ingram and a bucket full of picks. Brooklyn would also get to satisfy their pettiness by blocking Irving from the Lakers and Durant from Phoenix.

New Orleans becomes an instant contender and weakens the Lakers (which helps them because they own so many their picks).

All true unless Durant and/or Kyrie don’t want to play in NO or together and aren’t motivated and tank your franchise.

I’m not not sure in NO is willing to take that risk.

But it’s true they have much better asserts for at least Durant.

[Eric Bieniemy]

:o Damn I didn’t know Pelicans are that stacked

Ingram, McCollum, Valanciunas, Tre Murphy, Kira Lewis, and any number of draft picks for Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant, and Joe Harris.

PG - Irving - Alvarado - Graham
SG - Jones - Harris - Temple
C - Williamson - Hayes - Matkovic
PF - Durant - Hernangomez - Liddell
SF - Nance - Daniels - Marshall

Brooklyn still gets a young all-star in Ingram and a bucket full of picks. Brooklyn would also get to satisfy their pettiness by blocking Irving from the Lakers and Durant from Phoenix.

New Orleans becomes an instant contender and weakens the Lakers (which helps them because they own so many their picks).

All true unless Durant and/or Kyrie don’t want to play in NO or together and aren’t motivated and tank your franchise.

I’m not not sure in NO is willing to take that risk.

But it’s true they have much better asserts for at least Durant.

I agree. I can't speak to whether they are over the idea of playing together, but if they are still open to it, New Orleans would provide them a roster that is nearly tailormade for them. Not only would they have Zion as a tricked out garbageman, they'd also have great defenders up and down the roster.

They'd be absolutely silly to dismiss New Orleans if they want to win ... their desire to play with one another is an entirely different can of worms though. That point is valid.

[Pointgod]

Please keep Kyrie far away from this team. The dude is toxic and unreliable. There is no way in hell that we should be adding picks to get this **** guy that no one else in the league will go near. Kyrie has said “I only want to go the Lakers”. Lakers are like “we’ll give you whatever it takes to get Kyrie”. Please make this make sense.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Please keep Kyrie far away from this team. The dude is toxic and unreliable. There is no way in hell that we should be adding picks to get this **** guy that no one else in the league will go near. Kyrie has said “I only want to go the Lakers”. Lakers are like “we’ll give you whatever it takes to get Kyrie”. Please make this make sense.

He's toxic. What does that mean. To me, this word has become overused. What is your concern? He's not a leader. He will fail when he must lead. In Boston, he failed because he was tasked to lead. Was that toxic? Was him leaving toxic? I say no.

How about him abruptly demanding a trade out of Cleveland? Is this the toxicity you're referring to? Is demanding a trade toxic? That'd be fair, but are you calling every athlete in history that asked out "toxic" as well? Irving asked out because James was going to leave him. Kobe Bryant, ironically, suggested that he think selfishly and get out of Cleveland. Is Kobe toxic too?

Irving's most egregious act was taking time off for mental health. Think about that. Personally, I think this is weak, but if this is the worst thing somebody does, they aren't as "toxic" as you think.

Now you may disagree with me. You may think him burning sage is weird. You may think him thinking the world is flat is annoying. You may think him refusing the vax is selfish. That's fine.

Just understand that he is different. He can believe whatever he likes. Sage never hurt anyone. An asinine comment about the shape of our planet is just an opinion. Refusing to vax is simply a personal decision (like a woman deciding to abort a child).

Is any of this "toxic"? Define the word. Explain what you truly mean, because you sound like someone who lacks forward-thinking vision.

If you believe his presence in this lineup (and Westbrook's removal) won't improve this squad, God bless your soul, dude. I think you're being blinded by emotion and programming. When you factor in James' past success with Irving, the decision becomes all too clear.

[Landsberger]

LeBron isn't getting traded unless he wants to get traded, and I doubt he's crazy about teaming up with simmons in Brooklyn... Plus that would be a massive overpay for KD and Kyrie.

And AD isn't getting traded unless it's for another high profile Klutch client...

So why not do Westbrook/AD for Kyrie/Simmons? That way Brooklyn gets to keep KD and pair him with AD... Klutch doesn't lose a client in LA... Simmons gets to his ultimate destination... We get younger and move away from oft-injured AD, and AD gets to pair up with KD...

In this whole thread this is the best suggestion.... and I'm not much of a Kyrie fan. It rids the Lakers of Davis, which isn't someone we should build around post Bron.

[Lakers24gm]

If Lakers can pull of the Nets trade and get Kyrie and Harris it's going to make the Walker signing worse than it is now. Not offering multiple years clearly steered us away from other far superior players and with Kyrie and Harris cap space doesn't matter next year. What is frustrating about the Laker signing is that none of them have any upside for the team. They blow up next year they more than likely loose them a la Monk. Especially with Walker, there is no upside here. If they were going to take a chance on someone I definitely would of went with TJ Warren. Curious how the Laker pivot on here but seems like another miss from the front office.

[TJM217]

The dude is toxic and unreliable. There is no way in hell that we should be adding picks to get this **** guy that no one else in the league will go near.

Say it loud!

We literally did the same thing last year and begging to do it again.

Great example of throwing good morning after bad.

[Eric Bieniemy]

If Lakers can pull of the Nets trade and get Kyrie and Harris it's going to make the Walker signing worse than it is now. Not offering multiple years clearly steered us away from other far superior players and with Kyrie and Harris cap space doesn't matter next year. What is frustrating about the Laker signing is that none of them have any upside for the team. They blow up next year they more than likely loose them a la Monk. Especially with Walker, there is no upside here. If they were going to take a chance on someone I definitely would of went with TJ Warren. Curious how the Laker pivot on here but seems like another miss from the front office.

Lack of upside is par for the course when fleshing out a roster on discounted deals. Look at Golden State. They lost ALL their auxiliary guys (Bjelica, Payton, Porter). Their entire bench rotation when it mattered (except Poole) is gone. They just happen to three lottery picks in reserve to make-up for their losses.

There will always be a revolving door of a minimum-type guys that come through the door when your roster is top heavy with three max contracts. In fairness to Pelinka, maybe that's why he's so loyal to Klutch. Maybe he thinks if Brown Jr. or Walker or Tuscano-Anderson or Jones blow up, they'll stick around and get paid later, having full faith in the "Klutch promise".

[SweetTouch]

Pls don’t get kyrie

Obviously you know I roll with the king

It’s not about the already toxic **** this kyrie fellow has ,, it’s the fact that he’s always injured. King would have two more titles if kyrie didn’t get injured

I swear if I have to watch them play great and be left with AD and kyrie getting injured before the finals

[sonnyhill]

Pls don’t get kyrie

Obviously you know I roll with the king

It’s not about the already toxic **** this kyrie fellow has ,, it’s the fact that he’s always injured. King would have two more titles if kyrie didn’t get injured

I swear if I have to watch them play great and be left with AD and kyrie getting injured before the finals

Great post, SweetTouch.

Kobe played more games in one season with Nash than Irving had played in three seasons in Brooklyn with Durant.

It looks, however, like a deal may be close to happening...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-rumors-nets-only-willing-to-trade-kyrie-irving-to-lakers-under-1-condition/ar-AAZ9f6a?li=BBnbfcL

NBA rumors: Nets only willing to trade Kyrie Irving to Lakers under 1 condition
Mark Powell

It looks like Kyrie Irving will get his wish after all, as the Nets and Lakers are working on a deal to send him to Los Angeles.

The Lakers are one of the only teams willing to take on Irving's headache at this juncture, and for good reason. He held Brooklyn hostage to start this offseason, all because he didn't feel backed by a franchise which paid him max money to play in half of their games.

Incredible to think about, isn't it?

Irving is a tremendous talent, and he would no doubt be an upgrade over Russell Westbrook for Los Angeles. Brooklyn is trying to start over, especially after Kevin Durant asked out, as well.

Lakers can acquire Kyrie Irving from Nets under 1 condition
For Brooklyn, it's simple — they will trade Kyrie to Los Angeles, as long as it doesn't increase their financial commitment. What's the point of trading away star talent if it doesn't at least rid some of the financial strain?

To ensure this, the Nets want to include Joe Harris in any trade of Irving, something the Lakers aren't thrilled with. However, given Los Angeles doesn't have much to bargain with here, odds are they will end up taking Harris and any other increased salary Brooklyn throws their way assuming it follows league rules. Brooklyn would also take on Russell Westbrook in this scenario and buy him out shortly thereafter, starting over in the process.

Yahoo's Chris Haynes wrote that there is 'palpable optimism' that a trade can be reached between the two sides this offseason, though who knows how long that will take. For now, Los Angeles is not the only potential trade destination, and the Nets don't owe Irving anything after what he's put them through.

[zimpy27]

If Lakers can pull of the Nets trade and get Kyrie and Harris it's going to make the Walker signing worse than it is now. Not offering multiple years clearly steered us away from other far superior players and with Kyrie and Harris cap space doesn't matter next year. What is frustrating about the Laker signing is that none of them have any upside for the team. They blow up next year they more than likely loose them a la Monk. Especially with Walker, there is no upside here. If they were going to take a chance on someone I definitely would of went with TJ Warren. Curious how the Laker pivot on here but seems like another miss from the front office.

You're missing that the threat of capspace is what is giving Lakers the inside track to Kyrie, since everyone knows when wants to go there and they have a giant capsapce hole in a year. No one is giving up anything of note for him. These 1 year deals are really helpful.

If Lakers swap Westrbook for Kyrie then they open up the NT-MLE since they drop below hardcap.. That means that they can add Lonnie and add another $4m player like Bryant

If Lakers are under hardcap then they can accept SnTs.. They could get Warren by SnT with a trade of THT.

Kyrie, Reaves, Warren, LeBron, Davis -- Nunn, Lonnie, SJ, Gabriel, Byrant -- Christie, Brown, JTA, Jones

[RamonSessions7]

If Lakers can pull of the Nets trade and get Kyrie and Harris it's going to make the Walker signing worse than it is now. Not offering multiple years clearly steered us away from other far superior players and with Kyrie and Harris cap space doesn't matter next year. What is frustrating about the Laker signing is that none of them have any upside for the team. They blow up next year they more than likely loose them a la Monk. Especially with Walker, there is no upside here. If they were going to take a chance on someone I definitely would of went with TJ Warren. Curious how the Laker pivot on here but seems like another miss from the front office.

You're missing that the threat of capspace is what is giving Lakers the inside track to Kyrie, since everyone knows when wants to go there and they have a giant capsapce hole in a year. No one is giving up anything of note for him. These 1 year deals are really helpful.

If Lakers swap Westrbook for Kyrie then they open up the NT-MLE since they drop below hardcap.. That means that they can add Lonnie and add another $4m player like Bryant

If Lakers are under hardcap then they can accept SnTs.. They could get Warren by SnT with a trade of THT.

Kyrie, Reaves, Warren, LeBron, Davis -- Nunn, Lonnie, SJ, Gabriel, Byrant -- Christie, Brown, JTA, Jones

Don’t try and make me believe again