Does Dallas seem like it should be more of a FA attraction?

[SelfishPlayer]

Are you sure about this....or are you just speaking in a bunch of generalizations?

Maybe Dallas is "thought of" as particularly conservative by you...but the truth is that Dallas County(not the city proper, but the county) votes well over 60% for the Democrats candidate for President (65-33 Biden over Trump in 2020)...and its been this way for the past 15-20 years.

In regards to the bolded.....thats kind of ridiculous. Have you ever been to Dallas?
Dallas is about 50% non white. Dallas is nothing like Salt Lake City.

Have you ever been to a Mavericks game?
If you go to a Mavs game....I promise you you will see an abundance of non white people at Mavs (and Cowboys) games.

There is nothing that Houston has that Dallas does not.
People that have never been to Texas are always surprised at how diverse Texas is...especially in its largest cities.

You use the term "non white" in your post as if everyone outside of white people share a monolithic experience.

and?
What is the point of your post?

The poster I was replying to compared Dallas to Salt Lake City.

Dallas's diversity makes it nothing like SLC.

Racial/ethnic diversity and voting Democrat doesn't exclude Dallas from being "conservative" in the social economic strata that NBA players live in. Dallas in that aspect is "Salt Lake City" and not "Los Angeles."

[Jonny Blaze]

I'm sorry but Dallas is a very bland city.

The OP probably expected us to say stuff like "You're right bro! Dallas is an awesome city blah blah blah"

Not the case buddy.

Dallas isn't even the top tier city in Texas. Only people from Dallas may love Dallas but everyone I know that relocates there absolutely hates it with a passion. Boring city and nothing nearby other than Oklahoma.

Dallas is ironically also known as Oklahoma south LOL.

Dallas is the top tier Texas city. Houston is the armpit of Texas while San Antonio and Austin are still lacking in large citiy amenities.

[Jonny Blaze]

You use the term "non white" in your post as if everyone outside of white people share a monolithic experience.

and?
What is the point of your post?

The poster I was replying to compared Dallas to Salt Lake City.

Dallas's diversity makes it nothing like SLC.

Racial/ethnic diversity and voting Democrat doesn't exclude Dallas from being "conservative" in the social economic strata that NBA players live in. Dallas in that aspect is "Salt Lake City" and not "Los Angeles."

Are you an NBA player?
Do you role in these circles that NBA players live in?

Did you have a talk with an NBA player where he stated that he was too concerned about living in Dallas because of the lack of ethnic or political diversity?

If not....then it sounds like you are making all of this up to fit some preconceived notion that you have about Dallas and Texas.

Most black NBA/NFL players come from religious households....so Dallas (and the South's) emphasis on large churches (TD Jakes, Tony Evans) isn't going to be some negative mark.......certainly not like it is for people that come from areas where the protestant church is not as big.

Dallas and Houston are the same freakin cities.
Atlanta is Dallas if you removed the Hispanic neighborhoods and replaced them with black ones.

Anything you can do in Atlanta or Houston.....you can do in Dallas.

[SelfishPlayer]

and?
What is the point of your post?

The poster I was replying to compared Dallas to Salt Lake City.

Dallas's diversity makes it nothing like SLC.

Racial/ethnic diversity and voting Democrat doesn't exclude Dallas from being "conservative" in the social economic strata that NBA players live in. Dallas in that aspect is "Salt Lake City" and not "Los Angeles."

Are you an NBA player?
Do you role in these circles that NBA players live in?

Did you have a talk with an NBA player where he stated that he was too concerned about living in Dallas because of the lack of ethnic or political diversity?

If not....then it sounds like you are making all of this up to fit some preconceived notion that you have about Dallas and Texas.

Most black NBA/NFL players come from religious households....so Dallas (and the South's) emphasis on large churches (TD Jakes, Tony Evans) isn't going to be some negative mark.......certainly not like it is for people that come from areas where the protestant church is not as big.

Dallas and Houston are the same freakin cities.
Atlanta is Dallas if you removed the Hispanic neighborhoods and replaced them with black ones.

Anything you can do in Atlanta or Houston.....you can do in Dallas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt

[Jonny Blaze]

Racial/ethnic diversity and voting Democrat doesn't exclude Dallas from being "conservative" in the social economic strata that NBA players live in. Dallas in that aspect is "Salt Lake City" and not "Los Angeles."

Are you an NBA player?
Do you role in these circles that NBA players live in?

Did you have a talk with an NBA player where he stated that he was too concerned about living in Dallas because of the lack of ethnic or political diversity?

If not....then it sounds like you are making all of this up to fit some preconceived notion that you have about Dallas and Texas.

Most black NBA/NFL players come from religious households....so Dallas (and the South's) emphasis on large churches (TD Jakes, Tony Evans) isn't going to be some negative mark.......certainly not like it is for people that come from areas where the protestant church is not as big.

Dallas and Houston are the same freakin cities.
Atlanta is Dallas if you removed the Hispanic neighborhoods and replaced them with black ones.

Anything you can do in Atlanta or Houston.....you can do in Dallas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt

This is the 2nd time I've had to ask .......but what is your point?

[PizzaSteve]

Lived in Dallas 5 years. Meh. No estetics. Bad weather in summer. Restaurants and shopping malls for the masses, sure. Great strip clubs, decent schools for the wealthy. Good transit to elsewhere, such as Mexico, NOLA, Denver, Chicago or coasts, which is where an NBA pro would go for fun.

Its got some appeal, but top tier, dont think so. When Jason Kidd was a Rookie, he moved into my neighborhood, which was relatively dirt cheap at the time. Less so now.

If you want a big house, with pool, steak houses to eat at, schools for the kids, a big fancy church, dont mind living in AC during the summer, it can be a nice situation. Want to make movies, hang with rock stars, fly to Vegas, NY or LA.

[SelfishPlayer]

Are you an NBA player?
Do you role in these circles that NBA players live in?

Did you have a talk with an NBA player where he stated that he was too concerned about living in Dallas because of the lack of ethnic or political diversity?

If not....then it sounds like you are making all of this up to fit some preconceived notion that you have about Dallas and Texas.

Most black NBA/NFL players come from religious households....so Dallas (and the South's) emphasis on large churches (TD Jakes, Tony Evans) isn't going to be some negative mark.......certainly not like it is for people that come from areas where the protestant church is not as big.

Dallas and Houston are the same freakin cities.
Atlanta is Dallas if you removed the Hispanic neighborhoods and replaced them with black ones.

Anything you can do in Atlanta or Houston.....you can do in Dallas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt

This is the 2nd time I've had to ask .......but what is your point?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_corridor
You keep including the middle and lower class. The Upperclass is who NBA players live around. Salt Lake City and Dallas are the same in those areas.

[Jonny Blaze]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt

This is the 2nd time I've had to ask .......but what is your point?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_corridor

I kind of have an idea of where you are trying to go with this....but it doesn't seem like you know how to actually explain your argument.

A large number of the 20-30 something black males that make up the vast majority of the NBA/NFL come from the bible belt that is prevalent in Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, Florida...etc.

Outside of Las Vegas...I dare you to find three cities with bigger Strip Club culture than Dallas, Houston or Atlanta...and all these cities are located in the Bible Belt.

That's not remotely close to being the same thing as comparing a black NBA's player reluctance to play in Salt Lake City. For starters....there are very few Mormon people that are black. There is very little diversity in Utah.
Black people were not allowed in the Church of Latter Day Saints until the late 1970's and 80's.

To think that Dallas location in the bible belt is a hindrance to recruiting African American athletes is ludicrous

[PizzaSteve]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt

This is the 2nd time I've had to ask .......but what is your point?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_corridor
You keep including the middle and lower class. The Upperclass is who NBA players live around. Salt Lake City and Dallas are the same in those areas.

Its not clear whether you are saying it is attractive or not. A good friend is a CEO of a company in Salt Lake, another friend is a Board member of a globally known firm in Dallas. His garage holds 13 cars, his house has a duck pond and theater. They live well, in a genaric way. Not sure their life is an NBA stars' life.

Please elaborate. Wealthy people live well everywhere in the states.

[SelfishPlayer]

It's obvious now, NBA free agents don't want to play for Mark Cuban. People used to blame it on Dirk. Dirk is long retired, they have a superstar and NBA players still aren't gravitating to Dallas. It has been 20 years or so, it's Mark Cuban's presence. He's a fake Jerry Jones as a face of the team owner and I don't think NBA players want anything to do with an owner that wants to be a celebrity. Mark Cuban has actually become a bonafide celebrity and I don't believe that helps.

[SelfishPlayer]

This is the 2nd time I've had to ask .......but what is your point?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_corridor
You keep including the middle and lower class. The Upperclass is who NBA players live around. Salt Lake City and Dallas are the same in those areas.

Its not clear whether you are saying it is attractive or not. A good friend is a CEO of a company in Salt Lake, another friend is a Board member of a globally known firm in Dallas. His garage hokds 13 cars. They live well, in a genaric way. Not sure their life is an NBA stars' life.

Please elaborate. Wealthy people live well everywhere in the states.

Are you asking me if Salt Lake city is an attractive place to live for the general NBA player?

[Jonny Blaze]

It's obvious now, NBA free agents don't want to play for Mark Cuban. People used to blame it on Dirk. Dirk is long retired, they have a superstar and NBA players still aren't gravitating to Dallas. It has been 20 years or so, it's Mark Cuban's presence. He's a fake Jerry Jones as a face of the team owner and I don't think NBA players want anything to do with an owner that wants to be a celebrity. Mark Cuban has actually become a bonafide celebrity and I don't believe that helps.

Wait a second....I thought it was because Dallas and Salt Lake City are exactly the same and that there are no rich black people in Dallas for the athletes to live near?

Pro Athletes are made nervous and turned off by the lack of black people in Dallas, TX.

[PizzaSteve]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_corridor
You keep including the middle and lower class. The Upperclass is who NBA players live around. Salt Lake City and Dallas are the same in those areas.

Its not clear whether you are saying it is attractive or not. A good friend is a CEO of a company in Salt Lake, another friend is a Board member of a globally known firm in Dallas. His garage hokds 13 cars. They live well, in a genaric way. Not sure their life is an NBA stars' life.

Please elaborate. Wealthy people live well everywhere in the states.

Are you asking me if Salt Lake city is an attractive place to live for the general NBA player?

It wasnt clear what the point was. Is Utah ok, I would say yes. For me the national parks alone are attractive. Not sure for the NBA? I guess it is person specific.

My feeling is that Dallas is moderately attractive due to DFW vs Salt Lake transit, but a private jet would address that at the star level.

[HMFFL]

Cap space is the problem with this team,which is why they're strugging with getting Free Agents. I think as long as Luka is playing for them,they will be good players willing to join Dallas.

Cap space has forever been an issue so you're accurate. Time will tell who wants to play with Luka.

I personally believe Cuban and the front office will continue to not have cap space and build with veteran players that are in their final days of the league. It's always seemed to be the Mavericks blueprint.

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[SelfishPlayer]

This is the 2nd time I've had to ask .......but what is your point?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_corridor

I kind of have an idea of where you are trying to go with this....but it doesn't seem like you know how to actually explain your argument.

A large number of the 20-30 something black males that make up the vast majority of the NBA/NFL come from the bible belt that is prevalent in Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, Florida...etc.

Outside of Las Vegas...I dare you to find three cities with bigger Strip Club culture than Dallas, Houston or Atlanta...and all these cities are located in the Bible Belt.

That's not remote close to being the same thing as comparing a black NBA's player reluctance to play in Salt Lake City. For starters....there are very few Mormon people that are black. There is very little diversity in Utah.
Black people were not allowed in the Church of Latter Day Saints until the late 1970's and 80's.

To think that Dallas location in the bible belt is a hindrance to recruiting African American athletes is ludicrous

The problem is that you aren't focusing on the wealthy people. The wealthy people of Los Angeles have more diversity than the wealthy people of Dallas and Salt Lake city. Strip clubs have decreased in relevance to NBA players as social media has increased in influence. It's called getting "flewed out."
.

Watch on YouTube

[SelfishPlayer]

Its not clear whether you are saying it is attractive or not. A good friend is a CEO of a company in Salt Lake, another friend is a Board member of a globally known firm in Dallas. His garage hokds 13 cars. They live well, in a genaric way. Not sure their life is an NBA stars' life.

Please elaborate. Wealthy people live well everywhere in the states.

Are you asking me if Salt Lake city is an attractive place to live for the general NBA player?

It wasnt clear what the point was. Is Utah ok, I would say yes. For me the national parks alone are attractive. Not sure for the NBA? I guess it is person specific.

My feeling is that Dallas is moderately attractive due to DFW vs Salt Lake transit, but a private jet would address that at the star level.

Now that's the sort of talk that sounds like it's specific to NBA players.

[Jonny Blaze]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_corridor

I kind of have an idea of where you are trying to go with this....but it doesn't seem like you know how to actually explain your argument.

A large number of the 20-30 something black males that make up the vast majority of the NBA/NFL come from the bible belt that is prevalent in Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, Florida...etc.

Outside of Las Vegas...I dare you to find three cities with bigger Strip Club culture than Dallas, Houston or Atlanta...and all these cities are located in the Bible Belt.

That's not remote close to being the same thing as comparing a black NBA's player reluctance to play in Salt Lake City. For starters....there are very few Mormon people that are black. There is very little diversity in Utah.
Black people were not allowed in the Church of Latter Day Saints until the late 1970's and 80's.

To think that Dallas location in the bible belt is a hindrance to recruiting African American athletes is ludicrous

The problem is that you aren't focusing on the wealthy people. The wealthy people of Los Angeles have more diversity than the wealthy people of Dallas and Salt Lake city. Strip clubs have decreased in relevance to NBA players as social media has increased in influence. It's called getting "flewed out."
.

Watch on YouTube

This is the 3rd time I've had to ask on this thread.....but what in the world type of point you are trying to make?

In what ways are Los Angeles wealthy people more diverse than Dallas?

In terms of Jewish people? Asians, blacks?
and if this is so......who cares?

How does this have anything to do with young, wealthy black males that play in the NBA or NFL?

You keep comparing Dallas to Salt Lake City....and I really don't think you understand how diverse Dallas is. If you want to be in a city with beautiful women of all races then Dallas and Houston are going to be two of your best choices.

[Texas Chuck]

What a stupid thread.

[PizzaSteve]

Are you asking me if Salt Lake city is an attractive place to live for the general NBA player?

It wasnt clear what the point was. Is Utah ok, I would say yes. For me the national parks alone are attractive. Not sure for the NBA? I guess it is person specific.

My feeling is that Dallas is moderately attractive due to DFW vs Salt Lake transit, but a private jet would address that at the star level.

Now that's the sort of talk that sounds like it's specific to NBA players.

Good point, but made stars fly in private jets to play (i have tech success friends who do too), young prospects on 5M/yr might not. To build a franchise, what do you need? It's and interesting threadworthy topic.

I might argue that wives might have some influence here, as they are at the crib holding down the fort. An interesting strategy of targeting recruiting married vs bachelor dudes might be a GM consideration, depending on the city.

P.S. The dude preaching Dallas as a jet set destination is likely not well travelled. To be fair though, the state tax situation alone is very favorable. I think that matters more to NBA stars than the random restaurant, school or mall situation.

[SelfishPlayer]

I kind of have an idea of where you are trying to go with this....but it doesn't seem like you know how to actually explain your argument.

A large number of the 20-30 something black males that make up the vast majority of the NBA/NFL come from the bible belt that is prevalent in Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, Florida...etc.

Outside of Las Vegas...I dare you to find three cities with bigger Strip Club culture than Dallas, Houston or Atlanta...and all these cities are located in the Bible Belt.

That's not remote close to being the same thing as comparing a black NBA's player reluctance to play in Salt Lake City. For starters....there are very few Mormon people that are black. There is very little diversity in Utah.
Black people were not allowed in the Church of Latter Day Saints until the late 1970's and 80's.

To think that Dallas location in the bible belt is a hindrance to recruiting African American athletes is ludicrous

The problem is that you aren't focusing on the wealthy people. The wealthy people of Los Angeles have more diversity than the wealthy people of Dallas and Salt Lake city. Strip clubs have decreased in relevance to NBA players as social media has increased in influence. It's called getting "flewed out."
.

Watch on YouTube

This is the 3rd time I've had to ask on this thread.....but what in the world type of point you are trying to make?

In what ways in LA wealthy people more diverse than Dallas?

In terms of Jewish people? Asians, blacks?
and if this is so......who cares?

How does this have anything to do with young, wealthy black males that play in the NBA or NFL?

You keep comparing Dallas to Salt Lake City....and I really don't think you understand how diverse Dallas is. If you want to be in a city with beautiful women of all races then Dallas and Houston are going to be two of your best choices.

NBA players of all backgrounds care, that's who.