[HAYNES] Nets and Lakers actively talking Russ/Kyrie trade…

[robbie84]

This is exciting.

Lakers with LeBron, AD, Kyrie are filthy good. Best trio in the league.

Until KD is traded to GSW a day later. KD+ Steph+ the corpse of Klay Thompson is better than Lebron/AD/Kyrie.

[Johnny Bball]

Hahahahahaha. James is going to loudly petition to get Irving to LAL at any cost and then bail at the end of the year when the cupboard is empty. Classic.

[ChaseDown]

Hahahahahaha. James is going to loudly petition to get Irving to LAL at any cost and then bail at the end of the year when the cupboard is empty. Classic.

Wow you know the future. What happens to KD? Does Curry win the championship? Is AD a robot now?

[Freighttrain]

Hahahahahaha. James is going to loudly petition to get Irving to LAL at any cost and then bail at the end of the year when the cupboard is empty. Classic.

Please tell me your average post has more substance than this. I refuse to believe you have 38.000 posts and this is what you come up with

[Johnny Bball]

Hahahahahaha. James is going to loudly petition to get Irving to LAL at any cost and then bail at the end of the year when the cupboard is empty. Classic.

Please tell me your average post has more substance than this. I refuse to believe you have 38.000 posts and this is what you come up with

You can't possibly think James is staying in LAL. You've seen his history, you know what he's going to do. It would be completely OUT of character for him to stay.

[KHRICH]

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I feel if she had a choice she'd get rid of Bron much less adding kyrie

[Freighttrain]

Hahahahahaha. James is going to loudly petition to get Irving to LAL at any cost and then bail at the end of the year when the cupboard is empty. Classic.

Please tell me your average post has more substance than this. I refuse to believe you have 38.000 posts and this is what you come up with

You can't possibly think James is staying in LAL. You've seen his history, you know what he's going to do. It would be completely OUT of character for him to stay.

He likes living in LA and he has clearly stated that. The only reason why he would leave would be to play with his son if he were to become an NBA player. I don't see how this situation is a reflection of the other ones in Cleveland or Miami. He had more down years in LA than any other city but he never mentioned any disgruntlement the way he did in Cleveland or Miami. That should tell you more than what ur seem to be stating

[antonac]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that, while this will make the lakers better, not markedly so.

Davis hasn't played good basketball in 2 years, he's a big with constant injury problems, I just don't see him getting back to his prime in a full time role.

Lebron is 38 and really is in decline, obviously he can still function as a star level player if he plays the right role, but he's not a dominant force. I was looking at Federer's career timeline, at this point he was still quite good, he made it to the wimbledon final 6 months on and then hasn't got near a slam final, or even full time play. Lebron will still need be going full steam a year from now.

Kyrie has had 5 years of disappointing and causing problems. He's beginning to remind of footballers like Balotelli, Robinho, Adriano, guys with a ton of skill and ability but their constant off-filed nonsense lead to them under-performing, which just got worse as they went on, I feel Kyrie's ceiling might now just be a 25+ppg guy on a lotto team. He also leaves every organisation with bad blood. The Cavs got a busted up Isaiah Thomas, Boston got nothing, it looks like Brooklyn will get an awful Westbrook, does this not tell you something? Is it possible that after a year of not being valued he walks after the Lakers have several years of picks at Brooklyn to get him? It definitely is.

and then you just have nothing else on the bench. If they got Curry that actually might be important, but I just don't see this team stopping some of the other Western teams. If Davis gets back to prime, Lebron is willing to take a reduced role as a playmaker, Kyrie reigns himself in and some guys on the bench step up, sure it's a contender. That's four "ifs" though, it's nothing I'd gamble on.

[hoosierdaddy34]

Uh when? The Lakers have average ownership and average management, but stumble upwards into superstars every 4 years or so.

Yes, if they had joke-level ownership like Sterling and Dolan, they wouldn't be successful, but they can get away with being mediocre and still come away with titles. Most other teams can't do this.

Small market management has to be much much better for them to have even somewhat comparable success.

The disadvantages you list can be offset by endorsements and access, and no alpha would turn down being an icon of the most famous NBA franchise in the world, come on.

So basically your response is to double down on the same ridiculous logic and ignoring your original point which was apparently distance to the ocean was the only reason the Lakers were good despite crappy leadership. Except that doesn’t hold true for the Clippers because their leadership was bad.

Haha didn't say that either.

But I see you want to go the strawman/intellectually dishonest/purposely obtuse route.

Is it really that hard to admit that the Lakers benefit greatly from Privilege? (Same mechanism of how certain segments of society do. Doesn't guarantee success, but it doesn't hurt.)

Every non Laker fan can see this. Not sure why it's so hard to face reality.

Wait you want to cast the strawman stone? while dodging the “your story and arguments change when talking about the Lakers compared to others” like Neo dodges bullets in the Matrix?

Choose the blue pill Neo.

[Pointgod]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that, while this will make the lakers better, not markedly so.

Davis hasn't played good basketball in 2 years, he's a big with constant injury problems, I just don't see him getting back to his prime in a full time role.

Lebron is 38 and really is in decline, obviously he can still function as a star level player if he plays the right role, but he's not a dominant force. I was looking at Federer's career timeline, at this point he was still quite good, he made it to the wimbledon final 6 months on and then hasn't got near a slam final, or even full time play. Lebron will still need be going full steam a year from now.

Kyrie has had 5 years of disappointing and causing problems. He's beginning to remind of footballers like Balotelli, Robinho, Adriano, guys with a ton of skill and ability but their constant off-filed nonsense lead to them under-performing, which just got worse as they went on, I feel Kyrie's ceiling might now just be a 25+ppg guy on a lotto team. He also leaves every organisation with bad blood. The Cavs got a busted up Isaiah Thomas, Boston got nothing, it looks like Brooklyn will get an awful Westbrook, does this not tell you something? Is it possible that after a year of not being valued he walks after the Lakers have several years of picks at Brooklyn to get him? It definitely is.

and then you just have nothing else on the bench. If they got Curry that actually might be important, but I just don't see this team stopping some of the other Western teams. If Davis gets back to prime, Lebron is willing to take a reduced role as a playmaker, Kyrie reigns himself in and some guys on the bench step up, sure it's a contender. That's four "ifs" though, it's nothing I'd gamble on.

The fact that you even put more than 10 seconds of thought into how this doesn’t make the Lakers that much better means you are over qualified to be the Lakers GM.

[AmusingFiddle]

Exactly. Players buying a house in LA in non-news.

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How are you all so gullible?

Correct if I'm wrong but buying house like this and finalizing the deal can take months in USA

No. U can make an all cash offer and close in 7 days. If financing involved 2 weeks.

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[hoosierdaddy34]

Dan Woike of the LA Times basically confirming the Woj report. Saying today on local radio that the Lakers aren’t negotiating heavily at this point because they feel they can wait the Nets out who have no other offers for Kyrie and want who nothing to do with Irving being around next season.

[Hello Brooklyn]

This is exciting.

Lakers with LeBron, AD, Kyrie are filthy good. Best trio in the league.

Until KD is traded to GSW a day later. KD+ Steph+ the corpse of Klay Thompson is better than Lebron/AD/Kyrie.

I can't believe people are falling for this.

LeBron/AD/Kyrie is not even a top 4 seed in the West.

All 3 of those guys are extremely injury prone and Kyrie is guaranteed to miss a ton of games. Coach is a complete unknown.

Why would anyone have them over the Warriors or Clippers? Seems insane to me.

I would be shocked if those 3 end up playing even 25 games together.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Hahahahahaha. James is going to loudly petition to get Irving to LAL at any cost and then bail at the end of the year when the cupboard is empty. Classic.

Please tell me your average post has more substance than this. I refuse to believe you have 38.000 posts and this is what you come up with

You can't possibly think James is staying in LAL. You've seen his history, you know what he's going to do. It would be completely OUT of character for him to stay.

LeBron will go back to Cleveland for sure.

Garland/Mobley/Allen. Would easily be contenders in the East. Just need to dump some salary and its done.

[giberish]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that, while this will make the lakers better, not markedly so.

Davis hasn't played good basketball in 2 years, he's a big with constant injury problems, I just don't see him getting back to his prime in a full time role.

Lebron is 38 and really is in decline, obviously he can still function as a star level player if he plays the right role, but he's not a dominant force. I was looking at Federer's career timeline, at this point he was still quite good, he made it to the wimbledon final 6 months on and then hasn't got near a slam final, or even full time play. Lebron will still need be going full steam a year from now.

Kyrie has had 5 years of disappointing and causing problems. He's beginning to remind of footballers like Balotelli, Robinho, Adriano, guys with a ton of skill and ability but their constant off-filed nonsense lead to them under-performing, which just got worse as they went on, I feel Kyrie's ceiling might now just be a 25+ppg guy on a lotto team. He also leaves every organisation with bad blood. The Cavs got a busted up Isaiah Thomas, Boston got nothing, it looks like Brooklyn will get an awful Westbrook, does this not tell you something? Is it possible that after a year of not being valued he walks after the Lakers have several years of picks at Brooklyn to get him? It definitely is.

and then you just have nothing else on the bench. If they got Curry that actually might be important, but I just don't see this team stopping some of the other Western teams. If Davis gets back to prime, Lebron is willing to take a reduced role as a playmaker, Kyrie reigns himself in and some guys on the bench step up, sure it's a contender. That's four "ifs" though, it's nothing I'd gamble on.

It probably makes the Lakers better. But better from a 34-win lotto team doesn't mean title favorite. LeBron's 38. He'll almost certainly be worse then last season, probably by a non-trivial amount. AD could be healthier and thus more effective, but probably not by that much. Overall I'd expect LeBron + AD to be about the same. Their depth should be a little better as they're not going full geezer, but there's a limit to how effective you can expect a min salary based roster to be. Figure 0-5 extra wins there. So how much better is Kyrie from Westbrook? 5-10 wins (assuming good health and some santiy from Kyrie) feels about right. That puts the Lakers back up at a 45-win or so level. Probable playoffs (possibly play-in) but not that intimidating. Especially that LeBron will have to be going all out to get their, not coasting like he could 5-10 years ago.

[zimpy27]

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I feel if she had a choice she'd get rid of Bron much less adding kyrie

Is she naked in her own Twitter image?
Only other owner crazy enough to do that might be Ballmer.

The irony of posting cryptic tweets to get herself attention at the expense of the team.

[Johnny Bball]

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I feel if she had a choice she'd get rid of Bron much less adding kyrie

Is she naked in her own Twitter image?
Only other owner crazy enough to do that might be Ballmer.

The irony of posting cryptic tweets to get herself attention at the expense of the team.

Are we shaming female nudity now... doesn't seem cool ... or smart.

[Benedict_Boozer]

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I feel if she had a choice she'd get rid of Bron much less adding kyrie

Her profile pic tho

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NBA running out of storylines.

[HotRocks34]

I can't believe people are falling for this.

LeBron/AD/Kyrie is not even a top 4 seed in the West.

All 3 of those guys are extremely injury prone and Kyrie is guaranteed to miss a ton of games. Coach is a complete unknown.

Why would anyone have them over the Warriors or Clippers? Seems insane to me.

I would be shocked if those 3 end up playing even 25 games together.

This very well may be true (what seed the Lakers might get and how many games their Big 3 could play together).

If they are all healthy for the playoffs, however, I think they might still make a run.

If they got Curry, they would have huge offensive firepower (which is why LA seems to want Curry so much IMO). When Dallas lost Curry [I'm a Dallas fan] their offense suffered greatly. He really moves the needle. Put him with Kyrie and Bron and that offense could roll.

Last year, the Lakers went much more into an offense-heavy mindset (run and gun). It didn't work and their offense wasn't rated highly (23rd), but that's how they wanted to play and I think that style suits an aging LeBron.

There are plenty of strong teams in the league. I'm not saying the Lakers would beat them with Kyrie and Curry (Lakers need real depth), but don't sleep on what they might do with [Power Offense + Davis Defense] in the postseason if healthy.

To me, a healthy Clippers (who need just one more backup big man to have an incredibly stacked roster) or a healthy, tuned-up Bucks are the favorites next year. And the Warriors are still there. Phoenix if they get Durant.

But if the Lakers got it all together then they could be fully in the mix IMO. In the postseason, if not the regular season (when likely many games would be missed by the Big 3).