Fantasy Trade Thread

[76ciology]

Sixers trade: Tobi, Thybulle, Springer, Niang, ‘29 Top 10 protected FRP
Sixers receive: Wiggins and Joe Harris

Harden-Maxey-Wiggins-Tucker-Embiid is damn near perfect. Adding Joe Harris to the bench unit of Melton, House and Reed is also a big bonus giving us a championship run 9 man rotation…Shake, Korkmaz and Bassey (or get min C) for depth

Nets trade: Durant & Harris
Nets receive: Tobi, Poole, Wiseman, Thybulle, Springer, ‘26&’28 FRP from GS, and ‘29 FRP from Phil

Warriors trade: Wiggins, Poole, Wiseman, ‘26 top 5 protected FRP, and ‘28 top 10 protected FRP
Warriors receive: Durant & Niang

This is a great idea and a trade we can go after. Just focus on the fallout of the trade. But i prefer not to trade the picks.

I think its best to save some ammunition for next offseason, where we can attach assets with Maxey for upgrade

[sixers4real]

Sixers trade: Tobi, Thybulle, Springer, Niang, ‘29 Top 10 protected FRP
Sixers receive: Wiggins and Joe Harris

Harden-Maxey-Wiggins-Tucker-Embiid is damn near perfect. Adding Joe Harris to the bench unit of Melton, House and Reed is also a big bonus giving us a championship run 9 man rotation…Shake, Korkmaz and Bassey (or get min C) for depth

Nets trade: Durant & Harris
Nets receive: Tobi, Poole, Wiseman, Thybulle, Springer, ‘26&’28 FRP from GS, and ‘29 FRP from Phil

Warriors trade: Wiggins, Poole, Wiseman, ‘26 top 5 protected FRP, and ‘28 top 10 protected FRP
Warriors receive: Durant & Niang

This is a great idea and a trade we can go after. Just focus on the fallout of the trade. But i prefer not to trade the picks.

I think its best to save some ammunition for next offseason, where we can attach assets with Maxey for upgrade

Sign me in. I’d be ready for a Sixers Warriors Finals

[76ciology]

Suns:
Korkmaz
Niang

Sixers:
Shamet
2023 1st round pick

Why for Suns:
Better shooters and dumps shamet’s salary

[76ciology]

Pelicans:
Milton
Korkmaz
Niang

Sixers:
Larry Nance Jr.

Why for Pels: they are one of the league’s worst shooters

[PhillyFan11]

Sixers trade: Tobi, Thybulle, Springer, Niang, ‘29 Top 10 protected FRP
Sixers receive: Wiggins and Joe Harris

Harden-Maxey-Wiggins-Tucker-Embiid is damn near perfect. Adding Joe Harris to the bench unit of Melton, House and Reed is also a big bonus giving us a championship run 9 man rotation…Shake, Korkmaz and Bassey (or get min C) for depth

Nets trade: Durant & Harris
Nets receive: Tobi, Poole, Wiseman, Thybulle, Springer, ‘26&’28 FRP from GS, and ‘29 FRP from Phil

Warriors trade: Wiggins, Poole, Wiseman, ‘26 top 5 protected FRP, and ‘28 top 10 protected FRP
Warriors receive: Durant & Niang

This is a great idea and a trade we can go after. Just focus on the fallout of the trade. But i prefer not to trade the picks.

I think its best to save some ammunition for next offseason, where we can attach assets with Maxey for upgrade

We have a 21 year old 20+ point a game scorer and you are looking forward to the future of trading him? You might want to rethink your view on basketball…

[mjkvol]

Sixers trade: Tobi, Thybulle, Springer, Niang, ‘29 Top 10 protected FRP
Sixers receive: Wiggins and Joe Harris

Harden-Maxey-Wiggins-Tucker-Embiid is damn near perfect. Adding Joe Harris to the bench unit of Melton, House and Reed is also a big bonus giving us a championship run 9 man rotation…Shake, Korkmaz and Bassey (or get min C) for depth

Nets trade: Durant & Harris
Nets receive: Tobi, Poole, Wiseman, Thybulle, Springer, ‘26&’28 FRP from GS, and ‘29 FRP from Phil

Warriors trade: Wiggins, Poole, Wiseman, ‘26 top 5 protected FRP, and ‘28 top 10 protected FRP
Warriors receive: Durant & Niang

I'd do that. It makes the Warriors pretty much a lock to repeat if they stay healthy, but I'd love to see this group go up against them in the finals.

[mjkvol]

Sixers trade: Tobi, Thybulle, Springer, Niang, ‘29 Top 10 protected FRP
Sixers receive: Wiggins and Joe Harris

Harden-Maxey-Wiggins-Tucker-Embiid is damn near perfect. Adding Joe Harris to the bench unit of Melton, House and Reed is also a big bonus giving us a championship run 9 man rotation…Shake, Korkmaz and Bassey (or get min C) for depth

Nets trade: Durant & Harris
Nets receive: Tobi, Poole, Wiseman, Thybulle, Springer, ‘26&’28 FRP from GS, and ‘29 FRP from Phil

Warriors trade: Wiggins, Poole, Wiseman, ‘26 top 5 protected FRP, and ‘28 top 10 protected FRP
Warriors receive: Durant & Niang

This is a great idea and a trade we can go after. Just focus on the fallout of the trade. But i prefer not to trade the picks.

I think its best to save some ammunition for next offseason, where we can attach assets with Maxey for upgrade

The thing I love most about that trade is that it precludes trading Maxey, which you seem to be obsessed with doing.

[mjkvol]

Sixers trade: Tobi, Thybulle, Springer, Niang, ‘29 Top 10 protected FRP
Sixers receive: Wiggins and Joe Harris

Harden-Maxey-Wiggins-Tucker-Embiid is damn near perfect. Adding Joe Harris to the bench unit of Melton, House and Reed is also a big bonus giving us a championship run 9 man rotation…Shake, Korkmaz and Bassey (or get min C) for depth

Nets trade: Durant & Harris
Nets receive: Tobi, Poole, Wiseman, Thybulle, Springer, ‘26&’28 FRP from GS, and ‘29 FRP from Phil

Warriors trade: Wiggins, Poole, Wiseman, ‘26 top 5 protected FRP, and ‘28 top 10 protected FRP
Warriors receive: Durant & Niang

This is a great idea and a trade we can go after. Just focus on the fallout of the trade. But i prefer not to trade the picks.

I think its best to save some ammunition for next offseason, where we can attach assets with Maxey for upgrade

We have a 21 year old 20+ point a game scorer and you are looking forward to the future of trading him? You might want to rethink your view on basketball…

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

[sixers4real]

This is a great idea and a trade we can go after. Just focus on the fallout of the trade. But i prefer not to trade the picks.

I think its best to save some ammunition for next offseason, where we can attach assets with Maxey for upgrade

We have a 21 year old 20+ point a game scorer and you are looking forward to the future of trading him? You might want to rethink your view on basketball…

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

While I respect many of 76ciology views, I have a hard time agreeing with his “you can draft another Maxey with late 1st round pick in any draft”. That’s just so off to me.

But I already made a print-screen of 76ciology’s list of players that are “another Maxey”. We’ll see in 2-4 years who’s right.

[mjkvol]

We have a 21 year old 20+ point a game scorer and you are looking forward to the future of trading him? You might want to rethink your view on basketball…

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

While I respect many of 76ciology views, I have a hard time agreeing with his “you can draft another Maxey with late 1st round pick in any draft”. That’s just so off to me.

But I already made a print-screen of 76ciology’s list of players that are “another Maxey”. We’ll see in 2-4 years who’s right.

I respect most of his opinions, but his lust to dump Maxey to bring in players impossible to root for and much more likely to create an implosion here than a championship is disturbing.

[76ciology]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

While I respect many of 76ciology views, I have a hard time agreeing with his “you can draft another Maxey with late 1st round pick in any draft”. That’s just so off to me.

But I already made a print-screen of 76ciology’s list of players that are “another Maxey”. We’ll see in 2-4 years who’s right.

I respect most of his opinions, but his lust to dump Maxey to bring in players impossible to root for and much more likely to create an implosion here than a championship is disturbing.

Im not trading him for Joe Harris.
Im trading him for Kevin Durant.

I think Maxey is a good player and has a pretty high value.

I like guards. I like shooting. I like offense.

But this is just between us.. Maxey only has average at best shot creation skills in ISO or PnR, very low volume of iso possessions and almost no PnR in the playoffs. Most of his offense is off the gravity of Biid or Harden, closeouts, transitions and spot ups.

…which makes him a good fit for Harden or Embiid

Just right now when I was looking at his PnR and ISO numbers, a guy who is similarly as good is Bones Hyland.

How good do you guys project Maxey to be? Thats also what I want to know. As good as Donovan Mitchell? Malcolm Brogdon? I see him more having a career like Jeff Teague. Or Jrue or Tony Parker without the championship ring value bump

Would I trade Tony Parker or Jrue Holiday for Durant? Yes. Specially considering the limited window I have with Harden and Embiid

[sixers4real]

While I respect many of 76ciology views, I have a hard time agreeing with his “you can draft another Maxey with late 1st round pick in any draft”. That’s just so off to me.

But I already made a print-screen of 76ciology’s list of players that are “another Maxey”. We’ll see in 2-4 years who’s right.

I respect most of his opinions, but his lust to dump Maxey to bring in players impossible to root for and much more likely to create an implosion here than a championship is disturbing.

Im not trading him for Joe Harris.
Im trading him for Kevin Durant.

I think Maxey is a good player and has a pretty high value.

I like guards. I like shooting. I like offense.

But this is just between us.. Maxey only has average at best shot creation skills in ISO or PnR, very low volume of iso possessions and almost no PnR in the playoffs. Most of his offense is off the gravity of Biid or Harden, closeouts, transitions and spot ups.

…which makes him a good fit for Harden or Embiid

Just right now when I was looking at his PnR and ISO numbers, a guy who is similarly as good is Bones Hyland.

How good do you guys project Maxey to be? Thats also what I want to know. As good as Donovan Mitchell? Malcolm Brogdon? I see him more having a career like Jeff Teague. Or Jrue or Tony Parker without the championship ring value bump

Would I trade Tony Parker or Jrue Holiday for Durant? Yes. Specially considering the limited window I have with Harden and Embiid

1. Yes, I would trade Tony Parker for KD. Yes, I would trade Jrue Holiday for KD.
2. You said it yourself. Maxey is in the Jrue Holiday / Tony Parker discussion.

Maxey is as elite as Jrue and Tony. Rare find.

[youngcrev]

But this is just between us.. Maxey only has average at best shot creation skills in ISO or PnR, very low volume of iso possessions and almost no PnR in the playoffs. Most of his offense is off the gravity of Biid or Harden, closeouts, transitions and spot ups.

…which makes him a good fit for Harden or Embiid

Just right now when I was looking at his PnR and ISO numbers, a guy who is similarly as good is Bones Hyland.

85.1 percentile as PnR ball handler in the regular season, 79.6 percentile in the playoffs.

88.6 percentile in isolation, 82.9 in the playoffs.

He was very good in both.

Of course his volumes in either weren't crazy high, he's playing with Joel Embiid and James Harden. Don't confuse ability with opportunity.

Maxey is a really good scoring threat. Finishes his drives at an elite rate while putting up an elite efficiency shooting season. I think he's better at attacking off balance defenses at this point in time, but he can certainly score as a focal point as well. I'd say its more his passing that would hold him back from being an elite iso/PnR guy... But he's also 21 years old and a gym eat, so the sky is the limit.

[76ciology]

But this is just between us.. Maxey only has average at best shot creation skills in ISO or PnR, very low volume of iso possessions and almost no PnR in the playoffs. Most of his offense is off the gravity of Biid or Harden, closeouts, transitions and spot ups.

…which makes him a good fit for Harden or Embiid

Just right now when I was looking at his PnR and ISO numbers, a guy who is similarly as good is Bones Hyland.

85.1 percentile as PnR ball handler in the regular season, 79.6 percentile in the playoffs.

88.6 percentile in isolation, 82.9 in the playoffs.

He was very good in both.

Of course his volumes in either weren't crazy high, he's playing with Joel Embiid and James Harden. Don't confuse ability with opportunity.

Maxey is a really good scoring threat. Finishes his drives at an elite rate while putting up an elite efficiency shooting season. I think he's better at attacking off balance defenses at this point in time, but he can certainly score as a focal point as well. I'd say its more his passing that would hold him back from being an elite iso/PnR guy... But he's also 21 years old and a gym eat, so the sky is the limit.

If he can have higher volume and he is facing the team’s best defender unlike the situation when he’s with Harden and Embiid, maybe he can sustain those numbers.

Like i said, he’s good and im not denying that. If he’s not good then why wouldnt i make him the center of a package for KD.

Nevertheless, im still trading him for kevin durant if its available. Just my personal preference. Im more after certainty and i’ll let my trade partner do the speculation.

This is kevin durant. Not Carmelo Anthony.

I can find a guy close to as good as Maxey in every draft.
Durant is once in a two decade type talent.

[youngcrev]

But this is just between us.. Maxey only has average at best shot creation skills in ISO or PnR, very low volume of iso possessions and almost no PnR in the playoffs. Most of his offense is off the gravity of Biid or Harden, closeouts, transitions and spot ups.

…which makes him a good fit for Harden or Embiid

Just right now when I was looking at his PnR and ISO numbers, a guy who is similarly as good is Bones Hyland.

85.1 percentile as PnR ball handler in the regular season, 79.6 percentile in the playoffs.

88.6 percentile in isolation, 82.9 in the playoffs.

He was very good in both.

Of course his volumes in either weren't crazy high, he's playing with Joel Embiid and James Harden. Don't confuse ability with opportunity.

Maxey is a really good scoring threat. Finishes his drives at an elite rate while putting up an elite efficiency shooting season. I think he's better at attacking off balance defenses at this point in time, but he can certainly score as a focal point as well. I'd say its more his passing that would hold him back from being an elite iso/PnR guy... But he's also 21 years old and a gym eat, so the sky is the limit.

If he can have higher volume and he is facing the team’s best defender unlike the situation when he’s with Harden and Embiid, maybe he can sustain those numbers.

Like i said, he’s good and im not denying that. If he’s not good then why wouldnt i make him the center of a package for KD.

Nevertheless, im still trading him for kevin durant if its available. Just my personal preference. Im more after certainty and i’ll let my trade partner do the speculation.

This is kevin durant. Not Carmelo Anthony.

I can find a guy close to as good as Maxey in every draft.
Durant is once in a two decade type talent.

Sure, you deal him for KD if it was on the table (it's not).

I just think you tend to underrate him in general based on previous comments you've made, and had no idea where you were coming from with saying he's average at best in terms of iso/PnR.

[mjkvol]

While I respect many of 76ciology views, I have a hard time agreeing with his “you can draft another Maxey with late 1st round pick in any draft”. That’s just so off to me.

But I already made a print-screen of 76ciology’s list of players that are “another Maxey”. We’ll see in 2-4 years who’s right.

I respect most of his opinions, but his lust to dump Maxey to bring in players impossible to root for and much more likely to create an implosion here than a championship is disturbing.

Im not trading him for Joe Harris.
Im trading him for Kevin Durant.

I think Maxey is a good player and has a pretty high value.

I like guards. I like shooting. I like offense.

But this is just between us.. Maxey only has average at best shot creation skills in ISO or PnR, very low volume of iso possessions and almost no PnR in the playoffs. Most of his offense is off the gravity of Biid or Harden, closeouts, transitions and spot ups.

…which makes him a good fit for Harden or Embiid

Just right now when I was looking at his PnR and ISO numbers, a guy who is similarly as good is Bones Hyland.

How good do you guys project Maxey to be? Thats also what I want to know. As good as Donovan Mitchell? Malcolm Brogdon? I see him more having a career like Jeff Teague. Or Jrue or Tony Parker without the championship ring value bump

Would I trade Tony Parker or Jrue Holiday for Durant? Yes. Specially considering the limited window I have with Harden and Embiid

He's 21 yrs. old. He's coming off his first full year as a starter. I'm not going to place a ceiling on a kid with his ability and work ethic, but you go right ahead. I'm sure you would have been ready to dump Steph Curry early on for some disgruntled superstar du jour as well.

I guess fans today are so conditioned to fantasy and NBA 2K (I think that's the name I've seen) that they aren't really fans of a team and establish any kind of connection to certain players any more. Just different times.

[76ciology]

I respect most of his opinions, but his lust to dump Maxey to bring in players impossible to root for and much more likely to create an implosion here than a championship is disturbing.

Im not trading him for Joe Harris.
Im trading him for Kevin Durant.

I think Maxey is a good player and has a pretty high value.

I like guards. I like shooting. I like offense.

But this is just between us.. Maxey only has average at best shot creation skills in ISO or PnR, very low volume of iso possessions and almost no PnR in the playoffs. Most of his offense is off the gravity of Biid or Harden, closeouts, transitions and spot ups.

…which makes him a good fit for Harden or Embiid

Just right now when I was looking at his PnR and ISO numbers, a guy who is similarly as good is Bones Hyland.

How good do you guys project Maxey to be? Thats also what I want to know. As good as Donovan Mitchell? Malcolm Brogdon? I see him more having a career like Jeff Teague. Or Jrue or Tony Parker without the championship ring value bump

Would I trade Tony Parker or Jrue Holiday for Durant? Yes. Specially considering the limited window I have with Harden and Embiid

He's 21 yrs. old. He's coming off his first full year as a starter. I'm not going to place a ceiling on a kid with his ability and work ethic, but you go right ahead. I'm sure you would have been ready to dump Steph Curry early on for some disgruntled superstar du jour as well.

I guess fans today are so conditioned to fantasy and NBA 2K (I think that's the name I've seen) that they aren't really fans of a team and establish any kind of connection to certain players any more. Just different times.

Yes. Thats how it is nowadays.

I believe the best way to win nowadays is to have a program should be in short cycles.

Why? Because of player empowerment leading to a high variance in player movement.

At some point you have to shift your team into a win now mode. And in this “win now” mode where you need to bundle the superheroes into an avengers type team.

Last season, Harden asks for a trade. And we became a superteam.

This offseason, KD asks for a trade. And some team would be a superteam.

Wolves trades 5 picks for Gobert, they now leap frogged all other teams who didn’t made an “all in” move.

Next week, maybe Pels trades all 5 draft picks for Bradley Beal then the power rankings will change again.

Look at OKC, Rox, Jazz and Pels and how many draft picks they are stashing. They can leap frog over us any day.

Raptors and Heat are rumored to be on the KD sweepstakes. If they land KD, your chance to win a championship closes a little or completely, depending on how much they’ll give up.

Then eventually when the sun sets, you be like the Rox, Jazz and the Nets, trading Embiid and Harden for picks to help you rebuild.

This is what the league wants. Every season, big player movements that makes every season more entertaining. Players and agents also gets to paid more and run the league.

Lastly, teams like the Rockets has outsource their tanking because they already traded their pick so in the grand scheme of things, there will be less tanking.

I dont like how things are going on right now, but we have to adjust.

Our team is always late on the trend. Whether its to going big when everyone is going small then now going small when everyone is slowly trying to go big or when we try to be like the Spurs (a long running contender) that made us not want to trade Ben for a year’s rental of Kawhi, when teams like the Raps and Bucks leaps ahead of us in winning a championship because they went into “win now” mode. Look how that “Spurs” mindset made the Jazz obsolete. They should have traded Gobert years ago.

The trend now is no player connection, unless maybe you have an ATG player like Giannis or LeBron. More of a stoic approach to things. You compete, accumulate assets on the side. And when opportunity opens up, you pounce with all the assets you have saved.

And lastly.. you have Embiid. He isnt an ironman like Giannis, LeBron or Duncan. Your time horizon to compete is very small, thinking otherwise would be a mistake.

[mjkvol]

Im not trading him for Joe Harris.
Im trading him for Kevin Durant.

I think Maxey is a good player and has a pretty high value.

I like guards. I like shooting. I like offense.

But this is just between us.. Maxey only has average at best shot creation skills in ISO or PnR, very low volume of iso possessions and almost no PnR in the playoffs. Most of his offense is off the gravity of Biid or Harden, closeouts, transitions and spot ups.

…which makes him a good fit for Harden or Embiid

Just right now when I was looking at his PnR and ISO numbers, a guy who is similarly as good is Bones Hyland.

How good do you guys project Maxey to be? Thats also what I want to know. As good as Donovan Mitchell? Malcolm Brogdon? I see him more having a career like Jeff Teague. Or Jrue or Tony Parker without the championship ring value bump

Would I trade Tony Parker or Jrue Holiday for Durant? Yes. Specially considering the limited window I have with Harden and Embiid

He's 21 yrs. old. He's coming off his first full year as a starter. I'm not going to place a ceiling on a kid with his ability and work ethic, but you go right ahead. I'm sure you would have been ready to dump Steph Curry early on for some disgruntled superstar du jour as well.

I guess fans today are so conditioned to fantasy and NBA 2K (I think that's the name I've seen) that they aren't really fans of a team and establish any kind of connection to certain players any more. Just different times.

Yes. Thats how it is nowadays.

I believe the best way to win nowadays is to have a program should be in short cycles.

Why? Because of player empowerment leading to a high variance in player movement.

At some point you have to shift your team into a win now mode. And in this “win now” mode where you need to bundle the superheroes into an avengers type team.

Last season, Harden asks for a trade. And we became a superteam.

This offseason, KD asks for a trade. And some team would be a superteam.

Wolves trades 5 picks for Gobert, they now leap frogged all other teams who didn’t made an “all in” move.

Next week, maybe Pels trades all 5 draft picks for Bradley Beal then the power rankings will change again.

Look at OKC, Rox, Jazz and Pels and how many draft picks they are stashing. They can leap frog over us any day.

Raptors and Heat are rumored to be on the KD sweepstakes. If they land KD, your chance to win a championship closes a little or completely, depending on how much they’ll give up.

Then eventually when the sun sets, you be like the Rox, Jazz and the Nets, trading Embiid and Harden for picks to help you rebuild.

This is what the league wants. Every season, big player movements that makes every season more entertaining. Players and agents also gets to paid more and run the league.

Lastly, teams like the Rockets has outsource their tanking because they already traded their pick so in the grand scheme of things, there will be less tanking.

I dont like how things are going on right now, but we have to adjust.

Our team is always late on the trend. Whether its to going big when everyone is going small then now going small when everyone is slowly trying to go big or when we try to be like the Spurs (a long running contender) that made us not want to trade Ben for a year’s rental of Kawhi, when teams like the Raps and Bucks leaps ahead of us in winning a championship because they went into “win now” mode. Look how that “Spurs” mindset made the Jazz obsolete. They should have traded Gobert years ago.

The trend now is no player connection, unless maybe you have an ATG player like Giannis or LeBron. More of a stoic approach to things. You compete, accumulate assets on the side. And when opportunity opens up, you pounce with all the assets you have saved.

And lastly.. you have Embiid. He isnt an ironman like Giannis, LeBron or Duncan. Your time horizon to compete is very small, thinking otherwise would be a mistake.

I completely understand the current way of pro sports, and even college sports are going the fantasy game route with the transfer portal, but I don't have to like it. I'm not criticizing you, and I appreciate the knowledge and insight you bring here daily.

I can't follow a team or derive any joy in winning with your "no player connection" way of doing things. I'd rather not win a chip and like the team I'm watching night after night than have a Kevin Durant spend a year here and be in a parade down Broad Street while a Tyrese Maxey or Joel Embiid might miss that parade.

I get that it makes me unlike anyone else on here and different than probably 99% of today's fans, but so be it.

[76ciology]

Spoiler:

He's 21 yrs. old. He's coming off his first full year as a starter. I'm not going to place a ceiling on a kid with his ability and work ethic, but you go right ahead. I'm sure you would have been ready to dump Steph Curry early on for some disgruntled superstar du jour as well.

I guess fans today are so conditioned to fantasy and NBA 2K (I think that's the name I've seen) that they aren't really fans of a team and establish any kind of connection to certain players any more. Just different times.

Yes. Thats how it is nowadays.

I believe the best way to win nowadays is to have a program should be in short cycles.

Why? Because of player empowerment leading to a high variance in player movement.

At some point you have to shift your team into a win now mode. And in this “win now” mode where you need to bundle the superheroes into an avengers type team.

Last season, Harden asks for a trade. And we became a superteam.

This offseason, KD asks for a trade. And some team would be a superteam.

Wolves trades 5 picks for Gobert, they now leap frogged all other teams who didn’t made an “all in” move.

Next week, maybe Pels trades all 5 draft picks for Bradley Beal then the power rankings will change again.

Look at OKC, Rox, Jazz and Pels and how many draft picks they are stashing. They can leap frog over us any day.

Raptors and Heat are rumored to be on the KD sweepstakes. If they land KD, your chance to win a championship closes a little or completely, depending on how much they’ll give up.

Then eventually when the sun sets, you be like the Rox, Jazz and the Nets, trading Embiid and Harden for picks to help you rebuild.

This is what the league wants. Every season, big player movements that makes every season more entertaining. Players and agents also gets to paid more and run the league.

Lastly, teams like the Rockets has outsource their tanking because they already traded their pick so in the grand scheme of things, there will be less tanking.

I dont like how things are going on right now, but we have to adjust.

Our team is always late on the trend. Whether its to going big when everyone is going small then now going small when everyone is slowly trying to go big or when we try to be like the Spurs (a long running contender) that made us not want to trade Ben for a year’s rental of Kawhi, when teams like the Raps and Bucks leaps ahead of us in winning a championship because they went into “win now” mode. Look how that “Spurs” mindset made the Jazz obsolete. They should have traded Gobert years ago.

The trend now is no player connection, unless maybe you have an ATG player like Giannis or LeBron. More of a stoic approach to things. You compete, accumulate assets on the side. And when opportunity opens up, you pounce with all the assets you have saved.

And lastly.. you have Embiid. He isnt an ironman like Giannis, LeBron or Duncan. Your time horizon to compete is very small, thinking otherwise would be a mistake.

I completely understand the current way of pro sports, and even college sports are going the fantasy game route with the transfer portal, but I don't have to like it. I'm not criticizing you, and I appreciate the knowledge and insight you bring here daily.

I can't follow a team or derive any joy in winning with your "no player connection" way of doing things. I'd rather not win a chip and like the team I'm watching night after night than have a Kevin Durant spend a year here and be in a parade down Broad Street while a Tyrese Maxey or Joel Embiid might miss that parade.

I get that it makes me unlike anyone else on here and different than probably 99% of today's fans, but so be it.

I also can understand your POV. I also appreciate your knowledge and your posts in this board. I learned a lot from you and so from other people here. I acknowledge that there are different angles in seeing things, specially in sports.

That said, the championship you’re hoping is definitely sweeter. It has more value. Its what a purist fan would want to. There’s no doubt about that. And I would also love the same thing.

It’s just I also can accept a different a different way of getting one, and the reason I do is I think its how most championships are won nowadays and winning a championship is very very very hard.

[mjkvol]

Spoiler:

Yes. Thats how it is nowadays.

I believe the best way to win nowadays is to have a program should be in short cycles.

Why? Because of player empowerment leading to a high variance in player movement.

At some point you have to shift your team into a win now mode. And in this “win now” mode where you need to bundle the superheroes into an avengers type team.

Last season, Harden asks for a trade. And we became a superteam.

This offseason, KD asks for a trade. And some team would be a superteam.

Wolves trades 5 picks for Gobert, they now leap frogged all other teams who didn’t made an “all in” move.

Next week, maybe Pels trades all 5 draft picks for Bradley Beal then the power rankings will change again.

Look at OKC, Rox, Jazz and Pels and how many draft picks they are stashing. They can leap frog over us any day.

Raptors and Heat are rumored to be on the KD sweepstakes. If they land KD, your chance to win a championship closes a little or completely, depending on how much they’ll give up.

Then eventually when the sun sets, you be like the Rox, Jazz and the Nets, trading Embiid and Harden for picks to help you rebuild.

This is what the league wants. Every season, big player movements that makes every season more entertaining. Players and agents also gets to paid more and run the league.

Lastly, teams like the Rockets has outsource their tanking because they already traded their pick so in the grand scheme of things, there will be less tanking.

I dont like how things are going on right now, but we have to adjust.

Our team is always late on the trend. Whether its to going big when everyone is going small then now going small when everyone is slowly trying to go big or when we try to be like the Spurs (a long running contender) that made us not want to trade Ben for a year’s rental of Kawhi, when teams like the Raps and Bucks leaps ahead of us in winning a championship because they went into “win now” mode. Look how that “Spurs” mindset made the Jazz obsolete. They should have traded Gobert years ago.

The trend now is no player connection, unless maybe you have an ATG player like Giannis or LeBron. More of a stoic approach to things. You compete, accumulate assets on the side. And when opportunity opens up, you pounce with all the assets you have saved.

And lastly.. you have Embiid. He isnt an ironman like Giannis, LeBron or Duncan. Your time horizon to compete is very small, thinking otherwise would be a mistake.

I completely understand the current way of pro sports, and even college sports are going the fantasy game route with the transfer portal, but I don't have to like it. I'm not criticizing you, and I appreciate the knowledge and insight you bring here daily.

I can't follow a team or derive any joy in winning with your "no player connection" way of doing things. I'd rather not win a chip and like the team I'm watching night after night than have a Kevin Durant spend a year here and be in a parade down Broad Street while a Tyrese Maxey or Joel Embiid might miss that parade.

I get that it makes me unlike anyone else on here and different than probably 99% of today's fans, but so be it.

I also can understand your POV. I also appreciate your knowledge and your posts in this board. I learned a lot from you and so from other people here. I acknowledge that there are different angles in seeing things, specially in sports.

That said, the championship you’re hoping is definitely sweeter. It has more value. Its what a purist fan would want to. There’s no doubt about that. And I would also love the same thing.

It’s just I also can accept a different a different way of getting one, and the reason I do is I think its how most championships are won nowadays and winning a championship is very very very hard.

There's no doubt. My preferred way to win is gone forever except maybe in the rarest cases, like the Warriors first and fourth ones - they are an anomaly not likely to ever be seen again.