Knicks expected to get penalized for tampering with Jalen Brunson

[fuller4379]

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-knicks-expected-penalized-tampering-113042732.html

[41Dirk41]

Can we take something from Knicks for that situation? Or will they lose a 2RP and nothing else?

[bearadonisdna]

Kinda silly , mavs could have talked to Brunson exclusively didn’t even make a number or informal offer.

[arkuo]

It was because Brunson was negotiating in bad faith from the start.

If the other side of the table just wants to screw you out of money so the GM's son can get bigger commissions, dont even go to the meeting. Just walk away from the negotiating table.

[HMFFL]

Kinda silly , mavs could have talked to Brunson exclusively didn’t even make a number or informal offer.

I thought we made an offer that was $4 million less than the Knicks offered? Brunson just ended talks.

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[bearadonisdna]

Kinda silly , mavs could have talked to Brunson exclusively didn’t even make a number or informal offer.

I thought we made an offer that was $4 million less than the Knicks offered? Brunson just ended talks.

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By the time Brunson agreed I had not seen 1 report of any monetary offer.

[Archx]

Kinda silly , mavs could have talked to Brunson exclusively didn’t even make a number or informal offer.

They tried, they even had an offer ready but Brunson cancelled the meeting. NYK and Brunson pre-agreed on everything, the deal was known even before FA officialy started.

[Mavrelous]

I don't think there was a more blatant case of tampering, I doubt the Knicks care.

[arkuo]

If it's just a forfeited 2nd round pick, the Knicks wont care much IMO.

[bearadonisdna]

Kinda silly , mavs could have talked to Brunson exclusively didn’t even make a number or informal offer.

They tried, they even had an offer ready but Brunson cancelled the meeting. NYK and Brunson pre-agreed on everything, the deal was known even before FA officialy started.

Do you have a link of any type of offer ? Yes we heard of a meeting but I never saw any dollar amount or even proposition of an offer until after . And even then still nothing. Just a cancelled meeting.

[Archx]

Kinda silly , mavs could have talked to Brunson exclusively didn’t even make a number or informal offer.

They tried, they even had an offer ready but Brunson cancelled the meeting. NYK and Brunson pre-agreed on everything, the deal was known even before FA officialy started.

Do you have a link of any type of offer ? Yes we heard of a meeting but I never saw any dollar amount or even proposition of an offer until after . And even then still nothing. Just a cancelled meeting.

This is just one of the reports, there were a few circulating around.. Then you have Mavs reporters like Stein and Tim MacMahon reporting these type of things in advance aswell. It's more than evident that NYK and Brunson agreed in advance about everything, Mavs didn't even have a chance. The only chance they got was at the start of the season and at the trade deadline but they messed up.


On Wednesday, It was reported that the free-agent point guard — president Leon Rose’s focus for quite some time — would at least sit down with the other two franchises.

But now that is not happening. NBA reporter Marc Stein broke the news about the Mavericks meeting not happening, reporting that Brunson had informed Dallas he intended to sign the Knicks’ offer of four years in the $105 million range.

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[BeiBeau]

Kinda silly , mavs could have talked to Brunson exclusively didn’t even make a number or informal offer.

Silly? This is the most egregious form of tampering in the last 20 years. If the NBA had balls they’d take a 1st from New York. I just depends does the NBA want to continue to let tampering slide with a slap on the wrist or not.

They would never do this but the NBA does have the right to void the contract and tell Jalen he can’t play for them.

[bearadonisdna]

Kinda silly , mavs could have talked to Brunson exclusively didn’t even make a number or informal offer.

Silly? This is the most egregious form of tampering in the last 20 years. If the NBA had balls they’d take a 1st from New York. I just depends does the NBA want to continue to let tampering slide with a slap on the wrist or not.

They would never do this but the NBA does have the right to void the contract and tell Jalen he can’t play for them.

Well Any kind of penalty will happen with a full investigation .
What may save the Knicks hide is that they were very transparent in their direction .
It’s only obliviousness to imagine the we on realgm know terms of contract and Brunson and his agent don’t. That’s not tampering and Brunson deciding to go with NY before other meeting just shows a disinterest in the other offers.
Other teams not being as Transparent.

For example: Bulls.
Zach undecided.
Bulls announce direction of offer.
Zach announced intention of accepting offer.
All done well before FA.
Not done in meetings.
Basically negotiating through media.
We saw none of the between Brunson and mavs.

[BeiBeau]

Kinda silly , mavs could have talked to Brunson exclusively didn’t even make a number or informal offer.

Silly? This is the most egregious form of tampering in the last 20 years. If the NBA had balls they’d take a 1st from New York. I just depends does the NBA want to continue to let tampering slide with a slap on the wrist or not.

They would never do this but the NBA does have the right to void the contract and tell Jalen he can’t play for them.

Well Any kind of penalty will happen with a full investigation .
What may save the Knicks hide is that they were very transparent in their direction .
It’s only obliviousness to imagine the we on realgm know terms of contract and Brunson and his agent don’t. That’s not tampering and Brunson deciding to go with NY before other meeting just shows a did interest in the other offers.
Other teams not being as Transparent.

For example: Bulls.
Zach undecided.
Bulls announce direction of offer.
Zach announced intention of accepting offer.
All done well before FA.
Not done in meetings.
Basically negotiating through media.
We saw none of the between Brunson and mavs.

You’ve got big rose tinted glasses bud.

The Knicks cheated. They’re not the only ones. But this was the most obvious. They deserve any punishment they get. It’s most likely not going to be as harsh as they deserve so count your lucky stars.

[bearadonisdna]

Silly? This is the most egregious form of tampering in the last 20 years. If the NBA had balls they’d take a 1st from New York. I just depends does the NBA want to continue to let tampering slide with a slap on the wrist or not.

They would never do this but the NBA does have the right to void the contract and tell Jalen he can’t play for them.

Well Any kind of penalty will happen with a full investigation .
What may save the Knicks hide is that they were very transparent in their direction .
It’s only obliviousness to imagine the we on realgm know terms of contract and Brunson and his agent don’t. That’s not tampering and Brunson deciding to go with NY before other meeting just shows a did interest in the other offers.
Other teams not being as Transparent.

For example: Bulls.
Zach undecided.
Bulls announce direction of offer.
Zach announced intention of accepting offer.
All done well before FA.
Not done in meetings.
Basically negotiating through media.
We saw none of the between Brunson and mavs.

You’ve got big rose tinted glasses bud.

The Knicks cheated. They’re not the only ones. But this was the most obvious. They deserve any punishment they get. It’s most likely not going to be as harsh as they deserve so count your lucky stars.

That’s what I don’t agree.
Knicks didn’t cheat. But they tried the hardest .
They valued a guy much more than you guys did and have a situation of family and friends as well .
It’s reasonable to believe Brunson just choose them and apparently mavs weren’t even going to match dollar amount?

Guess you are free to your opinion but we won’t know for sure until a Investigation Is completed .

[BeiBeau]

Well Any kind of penalty will happen with a full investigation .
What may save the Knicks hide is that they were very transparent in their direction .
It’s only obliviousness to imagine the we on realgm know terms of contract and Brunson and his agent don’t. That’s not tampering and Brunson deciding to go with NY before other meeting just shows a did interest in the other offers.
Other teams not being as Transparent.

For example: Bulls.
Zach undecided.
Bulls announce direction of offer.
Zach announced intention of accepting offer.
All done well before FA.
Not done in meetings.
Basically negotiating through media.
We saw none of the between Brunson and mavs.

You’ve got big rose tinted glasses bud.

The Knicks cheated. They’re not the only ones. But this was the most obvious. They deserve any punishment they get. It’s most likely not going to be as harsh as they deserve so count your lucky stars.

That’s what I don’t agree.
Knicks didn’t cheat. But they tried the hardest .
They valued a guy much more than you guys did and have a situation of family and friends as well .
It’s reasonable to believe Brunson just choose them and apparently mavs weren’t even going to match dollar amount?

Guess you are free to your opinion but we won’t know for sure until a Investigation Is completed .

It is cheating if they’re talking to a player until free agency whether that is direct or back channels like friends and family. If you don’t believe that it’s just because you’re a biased Knicks fan.

The real issue is you don’t want to admit to your team cheating.

[Maverick41]

Did NY try the hardest to get Brunson? Yes

Did NY break the rules and tamper to get an advantage in signing Brunson? Absolutely.

You would be hard pressed to find a more obvious case of tampering then this one.

[bearadonisdna]

You’ve got big rose tinted glasses bud.

The Knicks cheated. They’re not the only ones. But this was the most obvious. They deserve any punishment they get. It’s most likely not going to be as harsh as they deserve so count your lucky stars.

That’s what I don’t agree.
Knicks didn’t cheat. But they tried the hardest .
They valued a guy much more than you guys did and have a situation of family and friends as well .
It’s reasonable to believe Brunson just choose them and apparently mavs weren’t even going to match dollar amount?

Guess you are free to your opinion but we won’t know for sure until a Investigation Is completed .

It is cheating if they’re talking to a player until free agency whether that is direct or back channels like friends and family. If you don’t believe that it’s just because you’re a biased Knicks fan.

The real issue is you don’t want to admit to your team cheating.

Do you think it was cool for the Knicks to forego their draft and admit to the world it was for a shot at Brunson ?
That is the risk they took . It was not a glamorous process . You talk about back channels but you and me are not in the nba and know the Knicks offer and intentions because they were transparent .

We’re you and i tampering because we knew the Knicks had a 100M on the table and everyone has nothing . It’s the real world man Brunson and his agent don’t have to pretend being man In the bubble.

[BeiBeau]

That’s what I don’t agree.
Knicks didn’t cheat. But they tried the hardest .
They valued a guy much more than you guys did and have a situation of family and friends as well .
It’s reasonable to believe Brunson just choose them and apparently mavs weren’t even going to match dollar amount?

Guess you are free to your opinion but we won’t know for sure until a Investigation Is completed .

It is cheating if they’re talking to a player until free agency whether that is direct or back channels like friends and family. If you don’t believe that it’s just because you’re a biased Knicks fan.

The real issue is you don’t want to admit to your team cheating.

Do you think it was cool for the Knicks to forego their draft and admit to the world it was for a shot at Brunson ?
That is the risk they took . It was not a glamorous process . You talk about back channels but you and me are not in the nba and know the Knicks offer and intentions because they were transparent .

We’re you and i tampering because we knew the Knicks had a 100M on the table and everyone has nothing . It’s the real world man Brunson and his agent don’t have to pretend being man In the bubble.

Dude the entire league and every fan knows the Knicks were tampering. Except you apparently. Quitting being stupid. Brunson even went through the farce of inviting teams to New York and then canceling.

I don’t think this is going anywhere bud. You can stay in Lala land. The rest of us will live in reality.

[Michaellam1987]

Honestly, I am not interested to it, and actually I dont really care what is the final result, as it is what it is, and no matter how, DAL wont have any benefit from it anyway. So, throw the fact of losing Brunson into bin, and shift back our focus to how to improve the team, and maintain our position in the super competitive western conference.