Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion

[Meat]

Actually thinking about it, I'm not so sure I'd do a straight up Wiggins for KD trade if I was the Warriors FO. (Ofc, not that that's possible.)

Wiggins cant be traded to Brooklyn as long as they still have Simmons

Brooklyn is so f‘ing screwed on all levels it’s not even funny. Or is it? I’m surprised this board has been pretty humane in its reaction.

how are they screwed? they have players worth at least a combined 7-8 first round picks

[moocow007]

Wiggins cant be traded to Brooklyn as long as they still have Simmons

Brooklyn is so f‘ing screwed on all levels it’s not even funny. Or is it? I’m surprised this board has been pretty humane in its reaction.

how are they screwed? they have players worth at least a combined 7-8 first round picks

Yeah I'm not sure that the Nets are screwed overall. They are screwed in the sense of winning with KD/Kyrie or likely winning anytime soon. But just KD alone, regardless of how much of a bitch he comes off as being or how prima-donna his personality is, you'll still have teams lined up for him and any competent GM will likely still be able to get a haul for him. Kyrie? Probably not as much but even with the nuttiness I think you'll still have teams interested that would be willing to give the Nets something potent in return.

[Montmorencie]

KD is the biggest **** in NBA history. There, I said it.

[BKlutch]

Guys my cat died. He was 15. He would wake me and my wife up when her blood sugar dropped at night (she's a type 1 diabetic). I'm pretty crushed

I'm sorry about your cat. Life is always too short, for pets and often for us.

You must have taken great care of her if she lived to 15 with Type 1 diabetes. I'm sure she felt the love you showed her a lot.

[Bob Ross]

Guys my cat died. He was 15. He would wake me and my wife up when her blood sugar dropped at night (she's a type 1 diabetic). I'm pretty crushed

I'm sorry about your cat. Life is always too short, for pets and often for us.

You must have taken great care of her if she lived to 15 with Type 1 diabetes. I'm sure she felt the love you showed her a lot.

Thank you. It is my wife who has type 1, she was diagnosed as a child. My cat would wake her or me up when my wife's sugar was low.

Thank you for the kind words

[Infinitimind]

KD is the biggest **** in NBA history. There, I said it.

I don't think anyone is going to argue that

I put James 2nd for always needed a super team to win

[spree8]

Guys my cat died. He was 15. He would wake me and my wife up when her blood sugar dropped at night (she's a type 1 diabetic). I'm pretty crushed

I'm sorry about your cat. Life is always too short, for pets and often for us.

You must have taken great care of her if she lived to 15 with Type 1 diabetes. I'm sure she felt the love you showed her a lot.

Yea man, sorry for your loss

[EricAnderson]

There was a flurry of trades/signings the first two days then it seems like ever since Durant asked for a trade the leagues at a standstill till it happens, no?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

It's because outside of their hatred for others they share nothing in common, Chanel is most likely a raw vegan whose lifestyle probably mirrors Patrick Bateman while Guan0 has a healthy diet of 7-11 hot dogs who lives like Charlie from Always Sunny when he's not traveling the multiverse on shrooms. By comparison, we have cultural links, we can share some sorrel, doubles and jerk chicken while debating rap, soca and reggae. Our great union was born out of competition, like how Gatti and Ward became best friends after their legendary series of fights. Their alliance isn't based on mutual respect or comradery, but contempt from their black hearts and the fear of having to go at enemies alone, it's why they lash out at each other so often, it takes work to fight their urge to backstab.


They will always fail, because they are evil, and we are good. Neither of them know what fete is or who Machael Montano is, that says all about them.

I live in the PNW and you think Chanel is the vegan.

I'm a walking cliché - out here running up mountains on shrooms and kale with vegan birks. You should try it. It might chill you out a lil. I'd say the same to Melo but we all know he isn't making it up a hill.


And Chanel and I need nothing more than our dislike for RJ, this team, and you and Melo to solidify our bond.

I basically eat different variations of marinated chicken and rice every day

I like my daily habits.

Eating chicken and rice, dressing well, destroying NoDopeOnSundays in yet another debate.

Of course you eat the same dry chicken meal every day, the mark of a sociopath.


Debate? This is why you lose, you're here to debate, I'm here to bark at your soul

[HarthorneWingo]

I live in the PNW and you think Chanel is the vegan.

I'm a walking cliché - out here running up mountains on shrooms and kale with vegan birks. You should try it. It might chill you out a lil. I'd say the same to Melo but we all know he isn't making it up a hill.


And Chanel and I need nothing more than our dislike for RJ, this team, and you and Melo to solidify our bond.

I basically eat different variations of marinated chicken and rice every day

I like my daily habits.

Eating chicken and rice, dressing well, destroying NoDopeOnSundays in yet another debate.

Of course you eat the same dry chicken meal every day, the mark of a sociopath.


Debate? This is why you lose, you're here to debate, I'm here to bark at your soul

You guys should charge a fee for this level of entertainment.

[EricAnderson]

They have been a huge failure for sure but if they play their cards riht with Durant, they could still be somewhat competitive and jumpstart a rebuild. It really depends on what teams will be willing to offer. You also don't know how the Ben Simmons situation plays out.....although seemingly unlikely he could still return and be an all-star. So while their situation is certainly pretty bad, if they can catch some breaks with Simmons and a Durant trade, they may not slide as bad as it looks right now.

I would not be surprised at all if Simmons ends up being traded himself. Well I would be but that’s due to the size of his contract and the concern about whatever mental illness that IMHO he’s clearly suffering from. Let me rephrase…I would expect Simmons to be the next guy the Nets look to move after they grant KD his wish. Simmons couldn’t handle Philly. I can’t see him being able to handle NY.

Generally I get your point but I disagree a little bit. To say Simmons couldn't handle Philly is a little exaggerated IMO. He became a multiple times all-star and DPOY candidate and was generally helping the team win games and advance to the ECF. True, he lost his confidence there and something happened to him mentally but I wouldn't charaterize his whole Philly time as a failure. It may have been dissapointing in the end and maybe even overall, but he certainly had stretches of success and prosperity as well.

To me it really comes down to what type of players you surround him with. For Simmons it is absolutely essential to be surrounded by 4 guys that can all shoot the basketball so that his biggest weakness is well compensated for. Actually I think with Seth Curry, Kyrie and Durant he would be in a situation where he could flourish if they added a solid shooting 5 as well. I think if you create the right situation for him, he can regain his confidence and have a successful career.

Well said which is why it’s also strange to me that Durant is demanding a trade just because they didn’t give the max to that lunatic Kyrie.

The Nets situation was probably the best situation basketball wise for KD out of all his options. I think if Ben played well the Nets age as good as anyone in the East.

If KD goes to say Phoenix and they have to give up Ayton Bridges and other pieces and Durant has to rely on Paul who can’t stay healthy in the playoffs anymore is that a better situation then the current roster in BK

[Bob Ross]

Guys my cat died. He was 15. He would wake me and my wife up when her blood sugar dropped at night (she's a type 1 diabetic). I'm pretty crushed

I'm sorry about your cat. Life is always too short, for pets and often for us.

You must have taken great care of her if she lived to 15 with Type 1 diabetes. I'm sure she felt the love you showed her a lot.

Yea man, sorry for your loss

Thanks dude

[HopelessKnick]

I would not be surprised at all if Simmons ends up being traded himself. Well I would be but that’s due to the size of his contract and the concern about whatever mental illness that IMHO he’s clearly suffering from. Let me rephrase…I would expect Simmons to be the next guy the Nets look to move after they grant KD his wish. Simmons couldn’t handle Philly. I can’t see him being able to handle NY.

Generally I get your point but I disagree a little bit. To say Simmons couldn't handle Philly is a little exaggerated IMO. He became a multiple times all-star and DPOY candidate and was generally helping the team win games and advance to the ECF. True, he lost his confidence there and something happened to him mentally but I wouldn't charaterize his whole Philly time as a failure. It may have been dissapointing in the end and maybe even overall, but he certainly had stretches of success and prosperity as well.

To me it really comes down to what type of players you surround him with. For Simmons it is absolutely essential to be surrounded by 4 guys that can all shoot the basketball so that his biggest weakness is well compensated for. Actually I think with Seth Curry, Kyrie and Durant he would be in a situation where he could flourish if they added a solid shooting 5 as well. I think if you create the right situation for him, he can regain his confidence and have a successful career.

Well said which is why it’s also strange to me that Durant is demanding a trade just because they didn’t give the max to that lunatic Kyrie.

The Nets situation was probably the best situation basketball wise for KD out of all his options. I think if Ben played well the Nets age as good as anyone in the East.

If KD goes to say Phoenix and they have to give up Ayton Bridges and other pieces and Durant has to rely on Paul who can’t stay healthy in the playoffs anymore is that a better situation then the current roster in BK

Something is amiss with what Durant is publically saying.

My speculation is that he is privately disillusioned with Kyrie and actually wants to get out of a situation where he has to rely on Kyrie as his Robin. But since they are friends and he does not want to admit all that publically (humiliating Kyrie in the process) he tries to spin it into something else.
There is no way that after the Harden saga and after how Kyrie has let the whole team down, Durant is in any ways shape or form convinced that hedging his last 3-4 productive years as an elite player on Kyrie is a good idea. Even if he himself would still have some sympathy for Kyrie and would want to make that work I am sure his friends, family and agent have influenced him into divorcing himself from Kyrie. But as a loyal friend he can't demand the team to trade Kyrie. As Kyrie would not return any significant value at this point in a trade---the only option is to demand a trade himself if he wants to try for a final title run. If he could count 100% on Kyrie going to the gym, coming in the best possible shape, staying focused on basketball the whole year and give it his all come April and May then I'm sure he wouldn't have demanded a trade. But since no one can be sure about what Kyrie is doing tomorrow, let alone weeks or months from now it is best for Durant to leave that situation. He is close to 34, he cannot waste his last 3 years hoping Kyrie prioritizes basketball again.
Add to that all the drama that comes from being on a team with Kyrie and now Ben---it is the opposite from what Durant was seeking in Brooklyn---he was seeking a chill situation focused on basketball and it turned into a public freek show that even the Knicks would have had a hard time matching. Durant won't sacrifice the last bit of his basketball career relying on someone like Kyrie and he is actually right in demanding out.

[HopelessKnick]

BTW what you said about the Brooklyn squad is actually correct---he would likely have the best chance at competing for a title if he stayed put in Brooklyn----AT LEAST ON PAPER.

It is unlikely that any team , after putting together a Durant package would be better than a healthy Brooklyn squad ON PAPER. But the reality is that Kyrie and Ben are probably the most unreliable "star" players in the whole league right now. Even if they are physically healthy it is unclear whether they would be playing at any given timepoint during the upcoming season. Durant is realizing that and he is not about that life. Realizing that he is turnin 34 now and has little time left he is not even willing to wait out next season to see if they can turn that disaster around.

[Deeeez Knicks]

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[SARGO127]

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If the Knicks can trade Randle to the moon and sign Melo, I’ll be VERY happy.

[moocow007]

Guys my cat died. He was 15. He would wake me and my wife up when her blood sugar dropped at night (she's a type 1 diabetic). I'm pretty crushed

I'm sorry about your cat. Life is always too short, for pets and often for us.

You must have taken great care of her if she lived to 15 with Type 1 diabetes. I'm sure she felt the love you showed her a lot.

Thank you. It is my wife who has type 1, she was diagnosed as a child. My cat would wake her or me up when my wife's sugar was low.

Thank you for the kind words

Yeah sorry to hear too and condolences. My cat is getting up there as well and you can tell that she's getting close. She's always just laying there and will mostly only just scoot her head and eyes to look at us when we are near. She still walks around but every day it's less and less. And it's amazing that he could do that wow. And definitely that's him showing the love back to you guys.

[moocow007]

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"I'm not sure what you said?" What a douche.

[Jay10]

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@ the thought of Julius getting traded, Knicks fans throw a parade thinking Obi is going to be the starter, only to have Carmelo come in and replace Julius as the starter.

[Chanel Bomber]

I live in the PNW and you think Chanel is the vegan.

I'm a walking cliché - out here running up mountains on shrooms and kale with vegan birks. You should try it. It might chill you out a lil. I'd say the same to Melo but we all know he isn't making it up a hill.


And Chanel and I need nothing more than our dislike for RJ, this team, and you and Melo to solidify our bond.

I basically eat different variations of marinated chicken and rice every day

I like my daily habits.

Eating chicken and rice, dressing well, destroying NoDopeOnSundays in yet another debate.

Of course you eat the same dry chicken meal every day, the mark of a sociopath.


Debate? This is why you lose, you're here to debate, I'm here to bark at your soul

Dry chicken?



You don't know who you're talking to