[HAYNES] Nets and Lakers actively talking Russ/Kyrie trade…

[DarkXaero]

Haynes turned out to be garbage on this.

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yup worthless source hope he gets black balled.

Sorry that you believed him.

[levon]

Haynes turned out to be garbage on this.

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yup worthless source hope he gets black balled.

Sorry that you believed him.

Why'd he turn out to be garbage? He reported they were actively talking and it's in the preliminary stages. Since then Woj said they checked in again but no traction yet.

[John Murdoch]

I think Marks has told Pelinka, I need a little more for Kyrie so we can save face. And Pelinka's said, look we're content just playing out this season with Westbrook and keeping our picks and cap next season, so find a better offer than ours so we can start bidding. And then everyone enjoyed the weekend.

I wish it went like that...but Pelinka was bidding against himself in the AD trade and still got bent over ...

[mademan]

Ya i dont think Rob or Marks have anywhere else to turn. Details will be argued, filler will be argued but i see WB/1st for Kyrie/Harris, if Harris can pass a physical.

[DarkXaero]

yup worthless source hope he gets black balled.

Sorry that you believed him.

Why'd he turn out to be garbage? He reported they were actively talking and it's in the preliminary stages. Since then Woj said they checked in again but no traction yet.

He said they were actively engaged. Since then Woj/Shams have both said there has been no traction, and Shams even said today that he's not sure if it'll even happen. If you read what Haynes had to say with the Joe Harris/Seth Curry stuff, you know it sounded like bs. The trade will probably happen but I'll be shocked if it goes down with those players added.

[Jagic Mohnson]

I have a feeling the Lakers rather trade for Kyrie after the Durant trade. The reason is if Durant goes to Golden State, the Lakers might as well give up and rebuild and trade Bron to Phoenix for Miles and Ayton and Davis to Bulls for Lavine

[th87]

Wait you want to cast the strawman stone? while dodging the “your story and arguments change when talking about the Lakers compared to others” like Neo dodges bullets in the Matrix?

Choose the blue pill Neo.

Projecting pretty hard there chieftain.

Lakers operate from third base. Other teams don't. Periodt.

Weak haterism. Nothing to see hear

Of built-in advantages, yes.

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[hoosierdaddy34]

Interesting thing here is that Ramona Shelburn and Jake Fischer both say that the Nets stance is that they don’t want Westbrook under any circumstance.

Ok but the Nets realize that if they don’t take Westbrook then there goes any chance at picking up draft compensation. Because no one is giving a first for Kyrie, so if the Lakers end up providing draft compensation to dump Westbrook in a 3 team deal, then that means the Nets get nothing or at least very little like Nunn or possibly THT.

The only way to get decent draft compensation back for the Nets is to take Westbrook and waive him. They will eventually figure this out, or at least come to terms with it.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Interesting thing here is that Ramona Shelburn and Jake Fischer both say that the Nets stance is that they don’t want Westbrook under any circumstance.

Ok but the Nets realize that if they don’t take Westbrook then there goes any chance at picking up draft compensation. Because no one is giving a first for Kyrie, so if the Lakers end up providing draft compensation to dump Westbrook in a 3 team deal, then that means the Nets get nothing or at least very little like Nunn or possibly THT.

The only way to get decent draft compensation back for the Nets is to take Westbrook and waive him. They will eventually figure this out, or at least come to terms with it.

Nets are not dying for that Lakers draft pick. Especially if it means we have to give up Joe Harris too. And take on Westbrick.

Lakers are 10x more desperate. Nets can easily just tell Kyrie to sit and move on.

[DarkXaero]

Interesting thing here is that Ramona Shelburn and Jake Fischer both say that the Nets stance is that they don’t want Westbrook under any circumstance.

Ok but the Nets realize that if they don’t take Westbrook then there goes any chance at picking up draft compensation. Because no one is giving a first for Kyrie, so if the Lakers end up providing draft compensation to dump Westbrook in a 3 team deal, then that means the Nets get nothing or at least very little like Nunn or possibly THT.

The only way to get decent draft compensation back for the Nets is to take Westbrook and waive him. They will eventually figure this out, or at least come to terms with it.

Westbrook is never going to play a game for the Nets, whether its him going to a third team or getting bought out. Westbrook's salary doesn't even match with Kyrie, so Nets would need to do more outgoing salary, unless they get a third team involved. And given the Nets' tax hell situation, I don't see them being willing to take Westbrook (adding salary and tax) for one first round pick.

I would look at Hornets as a potential 3rd team because they had previous interest in Westbrook, and with the Miles Bridges situation, they're now more in need of talent than before. They also have a bad contract of their own (Hayward) to make it work. As long as the Lakers are only offering one first for Kyrie, I would expect the Nets to hold on to Kyrie. I think the offer will need to be 2027 and 2029 firsts.

[hoosierdaddy34]

Interesting thing here is that Ramona Shelburn and Jake Fischer both say that the Nets stance is that they don’t want Westbrook under any circumstance.

Ok but the Nets realize that if they don’t take Westbrook then there goes any chance at picking up draft compensation. Because no one is giving a first for Kyrie, so if the Lakers end up providing draft compensation to dump Westbrook in a 3 team deal, then that means the Nets get nothing or at least very little like Nunn or possibly THT.

The only way to get decent draft compensation back for the Nets is to take Westbrook and waive him. They will eventually figure this out, or at least come to terms with it.

Nets are not dying for that Lakers draft pick. Especially if it means we have to give up Joe Harris too. And take on Westbrick.

Lakers are 10x more desperate. Nets can easily just tell Kyrie to sit and move on.

The Nets aren’t going into next season with Kyrie on the roster and currently have zero other offers for him. Even Nets cheerleader Woj admitted as much today.

Lakers are doing the right thing by waiting them out. I absolutely would put whose more desperate to the test if I’m the Lakers. Especially when you have Kyrie who is going to kill the interest of every other team, if his antics haven’t already.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Read on Twitter

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I feel if she had a choice she'd get rid of Bron much less adding kyrie

Is she naked in her own Twitter image?
Only other owner crazy enough to do that might be Ballmer.

The irony of posting cryptic tweets to get herself attention at the expense of the team.

I puked

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[Ryoga Hibiki]

Despite Kyrie's antics the Lakers are still going to need to compensate Brooklyn to the level I'm not sure they can

Nope... We're bidding against ourselves at this point... Prove us wrong and maybe we come off of Westbrook straight up, but if not... Go ahead and keep Kyrie... it's good for the lulz...

they are also bidding against Joe Tsai saying "skrew everybody, especially Kyrie".
The Lakers need this trade more than the Nets, whose season is already ruined.

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[Eric Bieniemy]

There will be another team that will swoop in and show interest in Irving. I follow the Lakers, but I completely understand the Nets waiting this out. There is only one team interested for now, but as time moves on, especially as the season ramps up, there will be other teams.

I can't say it enough that David Griffin should be calling Irving and Durant personally to sell them on the idea of running it back again with Zion Williamson. New Orleans has the chips to get a trade done, while still having a great team after.

The Lakers are playing with fire, acting like they're not that interested in taking the pretty girl to the prom, knowing she's the one they've been dreaming of marrying for years.

[FrobeBryant]

I think Marks has told Pelinka, I need a little more for Kyrie so we can save face. And Pelinka's said, look we're content just playing out this season with Westbrook and keeping our picks and cap next season, so find a better offer than ours so we can start bidding. And then everyone enjoyed the weekend.

I wish it went like that...but Pelinka was bidding against himself in the AD trade and still got bent over ...

I might be wrong but I thought it was Magic who ran those trade talks and stupidly offered everything at the start of negotiations. Even though no other team was bidding for AD at the time.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

THT, Nunn for Hield. No picks.

G - Westbrook/Beverly (buy out?)
G - Hield/Walker IV
F - James/Reaves/Brown Jr.
F - Davis/JTA/Johnson
C - Jones/Whiteside?/Gabriel

lol why would Pacers do that for no picks.

Because Hield isn't in their long-term plans and THT is only 21 years old. Nunn is also a promising young player.

nobody wants THT on that contract.
one of the issues of being run by Klutch

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[Ryoga Hibiki]

I think trading Kyrie to Minnesota for Russell is much better than the Lakers offer without the picks.

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[Ryoga Hibiki]

Nope... We're bidding against ourselves at this point... Prove us wrong and maybe we come off of Westbrook straight up, but if not... Go ahead and keep Kyrie... it's good for the lulz...

The Nets can keep Kyrie and try to win and keep him at the end of this year, and there should be other suitors

Sure they could... But last season went so well, and that's with a Kyrie that WANTED to be there... This season, he's probably not going to play at all if he doesn't get his extension and will do everything he can to be a pain in the ass...

and they'll send him home, whatever

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[ConSarnit]

Interesting thing here is that Ramona Shelburn and Jake Fischer both say that the Nets stance is that they don’t want Westbrook under any circumstance.

Ok but the Nets realize that if they don’t take Westbrook then there goes any chance at picking up draft compensation. Because no one is giving a first for Kyrie, so if the Lakers end up providing draft compensation to dump Westbrook in a 3 team deal, then that means the Nets get nothing or at least very little like Nunn or possibly THT.

The only way to get decent draft compensation back for the Nets is to take Westbrook and waive him. They will eventually figure this out, or at least come to terms with it.

Nets are not dying for that Lakers draft pick. Especially if it means we have to give up Joe Harris too. And take on Westbrick.

Lakers are 10x more desperate. Nets can easily just tell Kyrie to sit and move on.

The Nets aren’t going into next season with Kyrie on the roster and currently have zero other offers for him. Even Nets cheerleader Woj admitted as much today.

Lakers are doing the right thing by waiting them out. I absolutely would put whose more desperate to the test if I’m the Lakers. Especially when you have Kyrie who is going to kill the interest of every other team, if his antics haven’t already.

Could depend on Durant. If you can get back 2 good players (not even all stars) and a haul of picks for Durant they’ll have effectively re-stocked their cupboard from the Harden trade. Those picks may not be high but at least it’s something. BKN then has:

-a moderately competitive team (with no reason to tank)
-re-stocked draft assets

BKN then acts as a middling team (maybe play-in level?) for the next few years and has draft picks

They signed KD and Kyrie for free. Whatever they can get out of them in a trade should be a bonus, it’s just that now KD is being used to re-coup the lost Harden assets. They’re basically resetting back to zero (plus Simmons but minus potential high first rd picks).

Does BKN want the best return for Kyrie? Sure. Is it the end of the world if they don’t get it? Maybe not depending on what KD gets them.

The question is can LAL lose another year of Lebron? I’d think another losing year puts tremendous pressure on Pelinka.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Woj finally admitting on sports center, what others have been saying for awhile now, that the Nets have no where else to go but the Lakers at this point. That had to have been tough for him to do.

Yea like weve said if they want waste 35m on irving on sit him be my guest.

would russ be any better?

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