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Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion

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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1541 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:17 am

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Love these kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The future is bright Folksssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so you're back to being a knicks fan? :lol:


It just depends on which you get from someone who has multi-personality disorder.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1542 » by TheGreenArrow » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:20 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Seriously speaking, we're **** if Detroit or Orlando get Wembanyama.


Okc also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If there was a draft between the okc roster and ours would any of our guys be in the top 3?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think not…………!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1.Sga
2.Chet
3.Giddey
4.? You can arguably pick Dort!

We are ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1543 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:22 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
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Love these kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The future is bright Folksssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so you're back to being a knicks fan? :lol:


Always have and Always will be 3tothehead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What would make you think otherwise??!?!??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TheGreenArrow wrote:Can’t believe you guys still root for the team that passed on this kid to get rid of bad contracts that they signed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1544 » by evevale » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:27 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:Y’all passed on Tari Eason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank god I’m done with this team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**** the Knicks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheGreenArrow wrote:Can’t believe you guys still root for the team that passed on this kid to get rid of bad contracts that they signed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheGreenArrow wrote:Love these kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The future is bright Folksssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1545 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:30 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Seriously speaking, we're **** if Detroit or Orlando get Wembanyama.


Okc also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If there was a draft between the okc roster and ours would any of our guys be in the top 3?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think not…………!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1.Sga
2.Chet
3.Giddey
4.? You can arguably pick Dort!

We are ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This man flip flopped on Cam Reddish pretty quickly!!!!!!!
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1546 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:30 am

Jabari Smith getting Cam Reddish’d and his teammates is IQ.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1547 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:35 am

Jabari shutting me up quick.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1548 » by TheGreenArrow » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:36 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Seriously speaking, we're **** if Detroit or Orlando get Wembanyama.


Okc also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If there was a draft between the okc roster and ours would any of our guys be in the top 3?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think not…………!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1.Sga
2.Chet
3.Giddey
4.? You can arguably pick Dort!

We are ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This man flip flopped on Cam Reddish pretty quickly!!!!!!!


He’s getting traded man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as I’m concerned(unfortunately)he’s not apart of the team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Otherwise he’d be #1 prett easily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1549 » by dukeknicksirish » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:58 am

Wish we had Paolo, but we have Julius and 7 meaningless wins to end the season instead
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1550 » by DaGawd » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:00 am

I won’t be watching that Ivey game.. not only do I have to wake up in the morning it’ll hurt too much
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1551 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:01 am

Jaden Ivey about to play
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1552 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:01 am

banchero has great court vision. he's gonna be a cheat code
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1553 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:03 am

3toheadmelo wrote:banchero has great court vision. he's gonna be a cheat code


Waved off bum ass RJ Hampton
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1554 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:08 am

stuporman wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:so you're back to being a knicks fan? :lol:


Always have and Always will be 3tothehead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What would make you think otherwise??!?!??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TheGreenArrow wrote:Can’t believe you guys still root for the team that passed on this kid to get rid of bad contracts that they signed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

be better green satan be better!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1555 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:10 am

DaGawd wrote:I won’t be watching that Ivey game.. not only do I have to wake up in the morning it’ll hurt too much

i have to wake up early but im gonna watch it because i like pain
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1556 » by Strick » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:13 am

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DaGawd wrote:I won’t be watching that Ivey game.. not only do I have to wake up in the morning it’ll hurt too much

i have to wake up early but im gonna watch it because i like pain

Same boat here. Gonna hate it in the morning but rather feel that than hate missing the game in the morning :lol:
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1557 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:18 am

Knicks fans.. do you have your safety blankies ready to curl up and cry watching Ivey?
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1558 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:18 am

Imagine if Sharpe is nasty lol
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1559 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:18 am

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DaGawd wrote:I won’t be watching that Ivey game.. not only do I have to wake up in the morning it’ll hurt too much

i have to wake up early but im gonna watch it because i like pain

Same boat here. Gonna hate it in the morning but rather feel that than hate missing the game in the morning :lol:

yeah I want to see Ivey, sharpe and Duren. this should be fun
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1560 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:19 am

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I just posted about this on the general board. Contracts are a waste of time if players continue to simply ignore the terms they signed and demand trades whenever they want. If owners could decide in year 2 of a 4-year contract that they no longer desired to pay a player their agreed $40 million salary, there'd be a riot. Except, players are doing the same contract-busting move in reverse.

(I DEMAND a trade AND I demand it be to one of these 2 teams. Oh, and you can't ask for Player A, B, or C in the trade because I want them to be on my new team so I can go play with them) :crazy:

Why bother signing contracts if players can simply void them whenever they want??


It’s not like they are restructuring their salary so it’s not the same. Players taking control of their destination and demanding a trade is no different then when GMs decide to trade a player whenever they want. Nobody says GMs don’t fulfill their end of the contract when the player is moved whenever front office feels like moving them so players demanding trades is fine


That's not the same thing and not how contracts work.

Players have complete control over their destination... as a free agent. They can choose to go play wherever they want while they're not under contract. The problem or "scheme" is when a player accepts a SuperMax payout from the team that drafted them (knowing good and well they have no desire to play there), then demand a trade a year later and take themselves and their max money where they really wanted to go all along. In essence, they sign the contract under false pretense.

The loophole is the fault of the league. They need to completely restructure things within the next CBA so that players don't have to "pretend" they are staying with a team just to get max money -- then force a trade later to where they would have gone in the first place if they could have also gotten the big payday.

Players can also take some responsibility and not throw a tantrum and threaten to become a locker room "cancer" unless they get their way and get traded where they want. Otherwise (again), contracts are not worth the paper they're written on.


I would say HEZI is full of it for a slightly different reason. A GM is not voiding the contract when they trade a player, and a player can always advocate for a no trade clause and a trade kicker when they sign. A team pays a player to PLAY. A player signs with a team to play, but to GET PAID. If a player refuses to play, they are not doing what they are paid to do. The comparison would be like if the Knicks told Fournier "hey we don't think you are worth this money now, so we are going to just not pay you."

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