***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

[JoseRizal]

Scoop B is basically reporting Kyrie will sign an extension on July 10th.

No idea if he has any credibility but would be crazy if it happens.

If so, can he be traded then?

[Netaman]

Looks like we're not getting the deals we want.

I've always hoped for the following to acquire in a KD trade:
1. Jaylen Brown plus picks
2. Brandon Ingram plus picks

I will definitely not take the Raptors offer w/o Barnes. I'm not high on Siakam.

So, worse case scenario, I'm down with Phoenix's package of

1. Ayton - very young at 23, double-double nightly, developing 3 pointer (37% last season)
2. Bridges - 25yo, All-Defensive 1st team (like Simmons), respectable 3 pointer (37% last season)
3. Johnson - still young at 26, stretch 4 (42.5% 3pt pct. last season)
4. 5 FRPs and 4 pick swaps - will be valuable once CP3 & KD declines

I understand that this is way low than our expected return, but with KD screwing things up for us by limiting his trade destination wish list, it lessens our leverage to trade him to other teams.

At the end of the day, if push comes to shove, I'll walk away with the Suns' package with hope that everything turns out well for us.

My concern is that we don't have a perimeter scorer to go along with Ayton inside. Literally the only guy that can create for himself on the perimeter if we make that Phoenix deal is Cam. That's a disaster.

that's true about not having a shot creator but remember 2 things:

1. We most likely own our own pick this year, so if there's a year to miss the playoffs and be in the lottery this is it.
2. Simmons value is all time low right now.

I'm not saying we should tank, but we should prioritize getting assets on long contracts (like Ayton and Bridges 4 year deals) and trying to do our best to pump up Simmons to success. best case scenario he has his best year and puts himself back on the all NBA map and we are a playoff team that just needs to find 1 last shot creator piece.

worst case scenario it doesnt work out and we get our first very own lotto pick in like a decade along with all the PHO picks and try to package them with Simmons for Mitchell (or whoever the next shot creator to come available is).

the Suns deal gives us 2 legitimate playoff starters for 4 years and a ton of picks. It's a good base to build from along with hopefully Simmons if he gets it together.

[Hello Brooklyn]

At this point I don't even really want KD on the Suns, but that obviously doesn't mean the Suns don't want him.

Question for you? Do you think the Nets would have any interest in Myles Turner? The rumor now is the Pacers are going to go after Ayton and could sign him to an offer sheet but typically they will try to work out a S&T to avoid a match (like they did with Brogdon) so they would likely send Turner. Some speculate maybe Hield in a bigger deal.

You think the Nets would have interest in Turner? Might be a better fit with Simmons since he is more of a stretch 5. I agree him plus Bridges and Cam probably isn't a great deal....but just curious on Turner thoughts.

No we don't want Turner.

Looks like we will have a resolution on this soon now.

Why is that? Not the Turner part but the resolution soon? With what team?

Well I just mean once Ayton signs an offer sheet its probably over.

So either KD gets traded to the Suns or doesn't.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Scoop B is basically reporting Kyrie will sign an extension on July 10th.

No idea if he has any credibility but would be crazy if it happens.

If so, can he be traded then?

Yes. After some time though.

I assume if Kyrie is extended though it will be to appease KD. And we wouldn't be looking to trade Kyrie.

[JoseRizal]

Scoop B is basically reporting Kyrie will sign an extension on July 10th.

No idea if he has any credibility but would be crazy if it happens.

If so, can he be traded then?

Yes. After some time though.

I assume if Kyrie is extended though it will be to appease KD. And we wouldn't be looking to trade Kyrie.

Either way, an extended Kyrie is better than an expiring one. We'll have more leverage in trades with more guaranteed years.

[TheNetsFan]

At this point I don't even really want KD on the Suns, but that obviously doesn't mean the Suns don't want him.

Question for you? Do you think the Nets would have any interest in Myles Turner? The rumor now is the Pacers are going to go after Ayton and could sign him to an offer sheet but typically they will try to work out a S&T to avoid a match (like they did with Brogdon) so they would likely send Turner. Some speculate maybe Hield in a bigger deal.

You think the Nets would have interest in Turner? Might be a better fit with Simmons since he is more of a stretch 5. I agree him plus Bridges and Cam probably isn't a great deal....but just curious on Turner thoughts.

No we don't want Turner.

Looks like we will have a resolution on this soon now.

No on Turner. He's criminally overrated. I'd much rather have Ayton. If Marks goes for Turner it's because he's an expiring contract & he didn't want to commit big money to Ayton for 4 years. If we move KD, the only guys under contract in 2024 could theoretically be an expiring Simmons, Bridges & the 2021 rookies. All of our signings & trades so far have been 1-2 year deals.

[bwgood77]

At this point I don't even really want KD on the Suns, but that obviously doesn't mean the Suns don't want him.

Question for you? Do you think the Nets would have any interest in Myles Turner? The rumor now is the Pacers are going to go after Ayton and could sign him to an offer sheet but typically they will try to work out a S&T to avoid a match (like they did with Brogdon) so they would likely send Turner. Some speculate maybe Hield in a bigger deal.

You think the Nets would have interest in Turner? Might be a better fit with Simmons since he is more of a stretch 5. I agree him plus Bridges and Cam probably isn't a great deal....but just curious on Turner thoughts.

No we don't want Turner.

Looks like we will have a resolution on this soon now.

No on Turner. He's criminally overrated. I'd much rather have Ayton. If Marks goes for Turner it's because he's an expiring contract & he didn't want to commit big money to Ayton for 4 years. If we move KD, the only guys under contract in 2024 could theoretically be an expiring Simmons, Bridges & the 2021 rookies. All of our signings & trades so far have been 1-2 year deals.

So do you think their goal is to create max space in the near future to entice someone else to sign there?

[MGrand15]

At this point I don't even really want KD on the Suns, but that obviously doesn't mean the Suns don't want him.

Question for you? Do you think the Nets would have any interest in Myles Turner? The rumor now is the Pacers are going to go after Ayton and could sign him to an offer sheet but typically they will try to work out a S&T to avoid a match (like they did with Brogdon) so they would likely send Turner. Some speculate maybe Hield in a bigger deal.

You think the Nets would have interest in Turner? Might be a better fit with Simmons since he is more of a stretch 5. I agree him plus Bridges and Cam probably isn't a great deal....but just curious on Turner thoughts.

I'm starting to think this is most likely. Lots of us here have been interested in Turner for the last 2 years. Weve been begging for a stretch 5 and with Simmons, that's even more critical. He's a perfect fit.

The 3 team trade makes sense. Turner, Bridges, Johnson + all Phoenix picks to the Nets. KD to PHX. Ayton + 2nd round pick to Indy.

Not the star studded trade that we want but the stars aren't on the table. If we're not interested in Ayton, we might have to go for a trade where we get high level roleplayers with potential who keep us competitive.

I also think realistically stars like KD have a lot of power. If he stands firm on wanting to go to Phoenix, it'll scare anyone else from offering the farm. We can obviously hold onto him and start the year with a media circus but I think Brooklyn is tired of the KD Kyrie experience.

[gigantes]

Wow, Lillard sounds... incredibly MORE available than he was, just a couple days ago. oO

[jrj202]

Wow, Lillard sounds... incredibly MORE available than he was, just a couple days ago. oO

He was courtside at the Blazers SL game with Chauncey and Nurk

[NetsWorld]

Scoop B is basically reporting Kyrie will sign an extension on July 10th.

No idea if he has any credibility but would be crazy if it happens.

If so, can he be traded then?

Yes. After some time though.

I assume if Kyrie is extended though it will be to appease KD. And we wouldn't be looking to trade Kyrie.

Scoop is legit. Even when the trade news broke last week, I still sensed it was a farce in some sense so the media can make a story. While entertaining trades is fun, the two will most likely be back. He was also right about Kyrie opting in. Bob windhram will be moving in circles....... soon.

[NetsWorld]

Wow, Lillard sounds... incredibly MORE available than he was, just a couple days ago. oO

They gutted the team for him to be happy; you can never satisfy him. At 32 years old, you cannot continue to build around him. He will most likely end up on a team where he has the best shot at winning. You know the Lakers will jump all over him when availability arises. Trading Westbrook to Portland would make sense financially for the Blazers since they would be rebuilding and they can buy him out or wait till his deal is up. With what is being reported, I don't see Kyrie going to L.A. and I am starting to believe it was a false narrative the media, especially L.A.'s, build up.

[TheNetsFan]

No we don't want Turner.

Looks like we will have a resolution on this soon now.

No on Turner. He's criminally overrated. I'd much rather have Ayton. If Marks goes for Turner it's because he's an expiring contract & he didn't want to commit big money to Ayton for 4 years. If we move KD, the only guys under contract in 2024 could theoretically be an expiring Simmons, Bridges & the 2021 rookies. All of our signings & trades so far have been 1-2 year deals.

So do you think their goal is to create max space in the near future to entice someone else to sign there?

I think Marks always maintains flexibility. If the right young guy on a value contract is there, he'll take him. That being said, all signs point to him preserving 2024 cap space, but I'm not quite sure who his target would be. The class currently seems to be headlined by a 31 year old Kawhi, 30 year old Siakam, 28 year old Jaylen Brown & 28 year old Dejounte Murray. Would they be better investments than a 26 year old Ayton? I honestly have no idea, especially given some will likely get extensions before hitting free agency.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Wow, Lillard sounds... incredibly MORE available than he was, just a couple days ago. oO

Kyrie and picks for Dame

[NetsJets]

Windhorst wide bodied self isn’t going to like this if it’s true.

[NyCeEvO]

If so, can he be traded then?

Yes. After some time though.

I assume if Kyrie is extended though it will be to appease KD. And we wouldn't be looking to trade Kyrie.

Scoop is legit. Even when the trade news broke last week, I still sensed it was a farce in some sense so the media can make a story. While entertaining trades is fun, the two will most likely be back. He was also right about Kyrie opting in. Bob windhram will be moving in circles....... soon.

Windrem has admitted that he has no inside contacts with this Nets regime, so we should take his postulations as what they are…postulations.

[NetsWorld]

Yes. After some time though.

I assume if Kyrie is extended though it will be to appease KD. And we wouldn't be looking to trade Kyrie.

Scoop is legit. Even when the trade news broke last week, I still sensed it was a farce in some sense so the media can make a story. While entertaining trades is fun, the two will most likely be back. He was also right about Kyrie opting in. Bob windhram will be moving in circles....... soon.

Windrem has admitted that he has no inside contacts with this Nets regime, so we should take his postulations as what they are…postulations.

For a man that has no scoop, he sure loves to say, "From what I have heard", a lot! Good for him. My personal opinion is that Kyrie is toying with the media and laughing about everything behind closed doors....But hey, that's just me.

[NetsWorld]

No on Turner. He's criminally overrated. I'd much rather have Ayton. If Marks goes for Turner it's because he's an expiring contract & he didn't want to commit big money to Ayton for 4 years. If we move KD, the only guys under contract in 2024 could theoretically be an expiring Simmons, Bridges & the 2021 rookies. All of our signings & trades so far have been 1-2 year deals.

So do you think their goal is to create max space in the near future to entice someone else to sign there?

I think Marks always maintains flexibility. If the right young guy on a value contract is there, he'll take him. That being said, all signs point to him preserving 2024 cap space, but I'm not quite sure who his target would be. The class currently seems to be headlined by a 31 year old Kawhi, 30 year old Siakam, 28 year old Jaylen Brown & 28 year old Dejounte Murray. Would they be better investments than a 26 year old Ayton? I honestly have no idea, especially given some will likely get extensions before hitting free agency.

Brown would be at the peak of his prime and if Kawhi gets back on track, those are two damn good players to have on a roster. Marks maintaining flexibility in terms of contracts has to do with the lack of draft picks, they need to build through free agency. Yes, the Nets are the new Lakers in terms of free agents...... People will refuse to believe but it's true.

[mademan]

Kyrie getting the extention and kd backing off the trade demand would be the biggest pimp slap I’ve ever seen in the nba. Basically kd and kyrie telling ownership “ ya u thought u had the power huh”

Please let it be true.

[NetsWorld]

Kyrie getting the extention and kd backing off the trade demand would be the biggest pimp slap I’ve ever seen in the nba. Basically kd and kyrie telling ownership “ ya u thought u had the power huh”

Please let it be true.

I wouldn't look at it that way, this is not KD/Kyrie going after Marks/Tsai, this is KD/Kyrie going after the media making them come up with foolish stories and rumors for three weeks only for the opposite to happen making everyone look like idiots in the process.