Does Dallas seem like it should be more of a FA attraction?

[wegotthabeet]

Miami had to part with young players and picks to *sign* Butler and Lowry. It matters. Not for nothing, but I thought the Lowry signing was a bad idea if all the Heat had to do was give up future cap space, and they gave up more. Lowry had already started to decline his last couple years in Toronto and I suspect there's not much of a trade market for him on his current contract.

yeah that's irrelevant. the point is they were major free agents and wanted to sign with a specific team (Miami) that didn't have cap space, yet still found a way to get there. Same with Lebron and Bosh when Miami signed them. If players wanted to go to Dallas having cap space wouldn't matter they could use guys like Bertans and DinWiddie + assets to accommodate a S&T. They don't want to sign in Dallas with or without cap space.

It's not irrelevant, especially when you're talking about a player like Lowry who was well past his sell-by date. Also, Lowry wanted to play with Butler and was likely recruited by him. If Dallas can clear space, and if Doncic starts recruiting, and it doesn't work, then you can conclude no one wants to play in Dallas.

no. again the actual cap space itself is irrelevant.

you're just helping my point with the rest of your post. Lowry wanted to go to a team without cap space, same with Butler. nothing is stopping Luka from recruiting right now, except he plays for a team not located in Miami or LA and no one wants go there. if for example Beal or Lavine wanted to be in Dallas right now they'd be in Dallas.

[jbk1234]

yeah that's irrelevant. the point is they were major free agents and wanted to sign with a specific team (Miami) that didn't have cap space, yet still found a way to get there. Same with Lebron and Bosh when Miami signed them. If players wanted to go to Dallas having cap space wouldn't matter they could use guys like Bertans and DinWiddie + assets to accommodate a S&T. They don't want to sign in Dallas with or without cap space.

It's not irrelevant, especially when you're talking about a player like Lowry who was well past his sell-by date. Also, Lowry wanted to play with Butler and was likely recruited by him. If Dallas can clear space, and if Doncic starts recruiting, and it doesn't work, then you can conclude no one wants to play in Dallas.

no. again the actual cap space itself is irrelevant.

you're just helping my point with the rest of your post. Lowry wanted to go to a team without cap space, same with Butler. nothing is stopping Luka from recruiting right now, except he plays for a team not located in Miami or LA and no one wants go there. if for example Beal or Lavine wanted to be in Dallas right now they'd be in Dallas.

I mean you have to have the prospects and draft capital to make the S&T happen. Also, the contracts on your books can't be so negative that no one is interested in them. At the very least, you have enough trade assets to clear the space should the other team play hardball with you.

Next summer, the Mavs will have conveyed the last pick they owe to the Knicks, and will have all their future firsts left to trade. Bertans, Bullock, and Dinwiddie will all be on expiring or partially guaranteed deals. They'll be in a very different place in terms of landing a big free agent in terms of a S&T, or just clearing the space to sign one outright. We'll see what happens.

[Texas Chuck]

no. again the actual cap space itself is irrelevant.

you're just helping my point with the rest of your post. Lowry wanted to go to a team without cap space, same with Butler. nothing is stopping Luka from recruiting right now, except he plays for a team not located in Miami or LA and no one wants go there. if for example Beal or Lavine wanted to be in Dallas right now they'd be in Dallas.

You can't just ignore the hard cap. Dallas can't currently sign and trade for a free agent and remain under the hard cap. You are also ignoring that Dallas owes a protected 1st to NY that with the potential rollovers means they can't trade a 1st round pick or swap until 2027 at the earliest which also caps them at trading 2 firsts total.

These details matter. You can't just go hur dur Dallas sucks, nobody wants to play there. You have to understand they cannnot take back a player via S&T without dumping salary. Which would cost assets. And I just covered their current lack of assets to provide compensation for the team whose cooperation they would need in a S&T.

Now next summer, Dallas has a bunch of money falling off the books making the hard cap a non-factor. Barring their pick landing in the top 10 they will convey their debt to NY having no restrictions on trading firsts and can offer the volume picks/packages we have seen for guys like Harden and Jrue.

So next summer when they miss, you can claim nobody wants Dallas or nobody wants to play Luka. Right now, you have to understand some realities you are ignoring.

[PizzaSteve]

How slick are Dallas' training facilities and locker rooms for their players? Good management signals that 'nothing is too good for our guys,' and how the training staff and facilities, even locker name tags, in detail, are treated can matter.

I have no idea how they are in comparison with the league as a whole now, but you do realize Mark Cuban was the guy who started all of this right? Building the first building dedicated just to practice. The first guy who realized these incredible athletes shouldn't be sitting in metal folding chairs when on the bench. The highest quality towels, the most technology, the largest coaching and training staff by far. Team pyschologists, FT coaches, a dozen player development staff ,etc....

Dallas had a huge analytics department before any other team as well.

None of this existed to scale before Cuban because he was trying to find every edge he could bring to his team.

So at the very least Dallas is competitive with any team, but more likely they are still at the forefront, because it was Cuban who brought it all into the league.

What year was this facilities upgrade? Just curious. Spent time at Reunion on mid 90s and dont recall greatness, but wasnt a player. The Warriors separate training facility was built around 1997-8, with the remodel I mentioned to make it more sexy around 2004-5. Much needed and somewhat a housecleaning before the sale.

[MemphisX]

It should. Cuban knows how to run an organization, and he had the great sense to secure Luka at all costs. Hiring Kidd was a big win, trading Kristaps was a great move. Luka is destined to be a top 5-15 player ever at the rate he's going, and he's only getting better. He did battle with Clips without another star. Got to the conference finals this year. Luka's team won two games without him in the playoffs. KD should be looking squarely at Dallas. It's got basically everything. He just couldn't act like the fickle, pathetic whimp he has been over the years, since it's Luka's squad and Cuban isn't a weak-willed pushover.

Excuse me?

He does have a championship under his belt. How many titles does the Memphis Grizzlies have?

So that means he is running a great organization? Just going to forget all the scandals that have been in Dallas and are currently pending?

[Mr B]

Excuse me?

He does have a championship under his belt. How many titles does the Memphis Grizzlies have?

So that means he is running a great organization? Just going to forget all the scandals that have been in Dallas and are currently pending?

Winning is the name of the game right?

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[agkagk]

Ive always suspected that Cuban is too much of an alpha.

The top alpha dogs in the league have big egos and Cubans balls are just bigger.

[Bob Ross]

Let's not forget that JFK was killed on Dallas' watch