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Post#861 » by xdrta+ » Tue Jul 5, 2022 7:45 pm

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Samurai wrote:Do we know how much he signed for? If it was more than the minimum, then there's not much Myers could do. If it was for the minimum, then I'm wondering why GSW is not a more attractive landing spot (state taxes perhaps?) for vets like Dieng who have never even been to a conference finals.


We won't know any of these numbers until the moratorium ends tomorrow and contracts can be officially signed.

Edit: Although, if it were a minimum contract they could have announced it, since minimum contracts can be signed during the moratorium

Thanks for the clarification. Might be off-topic, but how were the Blazers able to announce GP2's contract terms of $28M over 3 years since that was for obviously much more than the minimum?


The Blazers didn't announce it, it was "reported" by Shams or somebody. He can't officially sign until tomorrow. These agreements that are reported are technically classed as "negotiations" and either side can back out without penalty. A few years ago, DeAndre Jordan famously backed out of an agreement with Dallas that had been widely reported to sign with the Clippers.
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Post#862 » by lars_rosenberg » Tue Jul 5, 2022 9:46 pm

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lars_rosenberg wrote:Dieng signed with the Spurs and Warren with the Nets.

Bob do something!



Those players probably signed for more than the Warriors wanted to pay.
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lars_rosenberg wrote:Dieng signed with the Spurs and Warren with the Nets.

Bob do something!

Do we know how much he signed for? If it was more than the minimum, then there's not much Myers could do. If it was for the minimum, then I'm wondering why GSW is not a more attractive landing spot (state taxes perhaps?) for vets like Dieng who have never even been to a conference finals.
I don't think the decision is monetary.

The reason vets aren't signing for the Warriors is that we can't guarantee playing time.

Players like Dieng and Warren need minutes to reestablish their market value.
Dieng for example, would have been third string center here, while Warren would have been buried behind Wiggins, Moody and Kuminga.
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Post#863 » by xdrta+ » Tue Jul 5, 2022 9:49 pm

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Post#864 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 4:29 am

Thomas Bryant apparently chose the Lakers

Not as shooter but I also like Moses Brown and don't get why he doesn't have a team yet.

Jarrett Culver? Juancho? Avery Bradley?
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Post#865 » by Samurai » Wed Jul 6, 2022 11:41 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:Thomas Bryant apparently chose the Lakers

Not as shooter but I also like Moses Brown and don't get why he doesn't have a team yet.

Jarrett Culver? Juancho? Avery Bradley?

ESPN reported that Bryant signed for the minimum. Again, why aren't vets choosing us if the offer is for the minimum? I understand that those who want the Hollywood connections will choose LA, but last I checked we won the championship last season; Lakers playoff record wasn't, uh, available.
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Post#866 » by xdrta+ » Thu Jul 7, 2022 12:01 am

Who's to say the Warriors wanted Bryant?
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Post#867 » by Scoots1994 » Thu Jul 7, 2022 4:27 am

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Scoots1994 wrote:Thomas Bryant apparently chose the Lakers

Not as shooter but I also like Moses Brown and don't get why he doesn't have a team yet.

Jarrett Culver? Juancho? Avery Bradley?

ESPN reported that Bryant signed for the minimum. Again, why aren't vets choosing us if the offer is for the minimum? I understand that those who want the Hollywood connections will choose LA, but last I checked we won the championship last season; Lakers playoff record wasn't, uh, available.


1. Bryant is a Lakers legacy.
2. The Warriors have Looney, Dray, and Wiseman so the minutes are going to be limted, the Lakers have ... Damian Jones and literally nothing else (AD hates playing center so much LeBron was playing it instead).
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Post#868 » by Commodor » Thu Jul 7, 2022 5:04 am

I wonder if the dubs give Bledsoe a ring. I’ll never turn down a player who plays defense and likes to distribute in this system.
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Post#869 » by whatisacenter » Thu Jul 7, 2022 6:43 am

Commodor wrote:I wonder if the dubs give Bledsoe a ring. I’ll never turn down a player who plays defense and likes to distribute in this system.

I thought about that when he became available. Not so sure about the guys defense though. Tyreke Evans is another guy who might get a look and they have had him in the building.
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Post#870 » by The-Power » Thu Jul 7, 2022 8:13 am

Commodor wrote:I wonder if the dubs give Bledsoe a ring. I’ll never turn down a player who plays defense and likes to distribute in this system.

Where are the minutes coming from?
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Post#871 » by Commodor » Thu Jul 7, 2022 9:12 am

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Commodor wrote:I wonder if the dubs give Bledsoe a ring. I’ll never turn down a player who plays defense and likes to distribute in this system.

Where are the minutes coming from?


More injury assurance & depth for more nights off for Curry than consistent rotation. Bjelica-esque role.
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Post#872 » by The-Power » Thu Jul 7, 2022 9:27 am

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The-Power wrote:
Commodor wrote:I wonder if the dubs give Bledsoe a ring. I’ll never turn down a player who plays defense and likes to distribute in this system.

Where are the minutes coming from?


More injury assurance & depth for more nights off for Curry than consistent rotation. Bjelica-esque role.

I just don't think that should be our priority. We have Curry, Klay, Poole and DDV as primary players for two positions (96 minutes). Even if one player is rested or out with injury, 96 minutes could be filled. If Curry is the one who's out, you may need more ball handling but is Bledsoe really that player for GS? I'm skeptical of the fit. Inefficient on-ball Guards aren't exactly our type of player.

And obviously that's not all we have for this position. Moody can and will play the 2 at least some, and on rest days you'd expect them to want to play Rollins and possibly their two-way guys which, as of now, are smaller wings. I just see more of a need to fill the actual Bjelica (and OPJ) role, i.e. a shooting big.

And this does not even take into account the Bledsoe side of it. Why would he come to the Warriors for the minimum when all we can offer him is irregular playing time in an injury-and-rest-insurance capacity? Not sure if he has any market but if there's even one other team interested, I have to believe that it's a more attractive destination to him. It may be his last chance to showcase himself for a non-minimum and/or multi-year contract, so he can't afford to not play at all half of the time.
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Post#873 » by xdrta+ » Thu Jul 7, 2022 3:48 pm

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Samurai wrote:Do we know how much he signed for? If it was more than the minimum, then there's not much Myers could do. If it was for the minimum, then I'm wondering why GSW is not a more attractive landing spot (state taxes perhaps?) for vets like Dieng who have never even been to a conference finals.


We won't know any of these numbers until the moratorium ends tomorrow and contracts can be officially signed.

Edit: Although, if it were a minimum contract they could have announced it, since minimum contracts can be signed during the moratorium

Thanks for the clarification. Might be off-topic, but how were the Blazers able to announce GP2's contract terms of $28M over 3 years since that was for obviously much more than the minimum?


Payton and Porter have officially signed now, the numbers are out:

Gary Payton II‘s three-year deal with the Trail Blazers has a starting salary of $8.3MM and is worth $26.15MM in total, slightly below its reported value of $28MM

Otto Porter will earn $6MM in 2022/23, with a $6.3MM player option in ’23/24,
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Post#874 » by Commodor » Thu Jul 7, 2022 6:26 pm

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Commodor wrote:
The-Power wrote:Where are the minutes coming from?


More injury assurance & depth for more nights off for Curry than consistent rotation. Bjelica-esque role.

I just don't think that should be our priority. We have Curry, Klay, Poole and DDV as primary players for two positions (96 minutes). Even if one player is rested or out with injury, 96 minutes could be filled. If Curry is the one who's out, you may need more ball handling but is Bledsoe really that player for GS? I'm skeptical of the fit. Inefficient on-ball Guards aren't exactly our type of player.

And obviously that's not all we have for this position. Moody can and will play the 2 at least some, and on rest days you'd expect them to want to play Rollins and possibly their two-way guys which, as of now, are smaller wings. I just see more of a need to fill the actual Bjelica (and OPJ) role, i.e. a shooting big.

And this does not even take into account the Bledsoe side of it. Why would he come to the Warriors for the minimum when all we can offer him is irregular playing time in an injury-and-rest-insurance capacity? Not sure if he has any market but if there's even one other team interested, I have to believe that it's a more attractive destination to him. It may be his last chance to showcase himself for a non-minimum and/or multi-year contract, so he can't afford to not play at all half of the time.


I agree Bledsoe shouldn’t be priority but really Myers’s only needs to send a text saying “min?”. If Bledsoe wants a chance to rebuild a little value and have a shot at a ring warriors are probably the best option. He can fit GP2’s role from last year where he can just focus on defense and hitting open shots. If he can get his 3pt shot to the 35% range and play decent overall defense we could find a role. I doubt Rollins fills much more than Chiozza role especially with his injury. Moody will be slotted at the 3 more simply because our lack of depth there. DDV is intriguing but needs just as much of a rebuild as Bledsoe after last season.

I do like them targeting another big man but there’s not a ton of options left. Gallinari is not officially signed yet but seems to be committed to BOS. Taj Gibson or Hassan Whiteside probably the next best but after that it’s Millsap or Alridge flyer. Not exactly ideal options. May be better to roll with the kids to start the season and keep an eye to the buy out market mid season.
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Post#875 » by ChuckDurn » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:06 am

Commodor wrote:
The-Power wrote:
Commodor wrote:
More injury assurance & depth for more nights off for Curry than consistent rotation. Bjelica-esque role.

I just don't think that should be our priority. We have Curry, Klay, Poole and DDV as primary players for two positions (96 minutes). Even if one player is rested or out with injury, 96 minutes could be filled. If Curry is the one who's out, you may need more ball handling but is Bledsoe really that player for GS? I'm skeptical of the fit. Inefficient on-ball Guards aren't exactly our type of player.

And obviously that's not all we have for this position. Moody can and will play the 2 at least some, and on rest days you'd expect them to want to play Rollins and possibly their two-way guys which, as of now, are smaller wings. I just see more of a need to fill the actual Bjelica (and OPJ) role, i.e. a shooting big.

And this does not even take into account the Bledsoe side of it. Why would he come to the Warriors for the minimum when all we can offer him is irregular playing time in an injury-and-rest-insurance capacity? Not sure if he has any market but if there's even one other team interested, I have to believe that it's a more attractive destination to him. It may be his last chance to showcase himself for a non-minimum and/or multi-year contract, so he can't afford to not play at all half of the time.


I agree Bledsoe shouldn’t be priority but really Myers’s only needs to send a text saying “min?”. If Bledsoe wants a chance to rebuild a little value and have a shot at a ring warriors are probably the best option. He can fit GP2’s role from last year where he can just focus on defense and hitting open shots. If he can get his 3pt shot to the 35% range and play decent overall defense we could find a role. I doubt Rollins fills much more than Chiozza role especially with his injury. Moody will be slotted at the 3 more simply because our lack of depth there. DDV is intriguing but needs just as much of a rebuild as Bledsoe after last season.

I do like them targeting another big man but there’s not a ton of options left. Gallinari is not officially signed yet but seems to be committed to BOS. Taj Gibson or Hassan Whiteside probably the next best but after that it’s Millsap or Alridge flyer. Not exactly ideal options. May be better to roll with the kids to start the season and keep an eye to the buy out market mid season.

I agree with pretty much all of this. I do think Rollins has more to his game (even as a rookie) than Chiozza, both offensively and defensively. He’ll still be the 5th guard overall, with not much time, but I don’t see the need to get another guard such as Bledsoe being a big priority. (And actually, Quinones on a 2-way is a 6th guard, though he’s definitely more of a off-guard than ball handler.)

I am worried about the depth at the 4 and 5. Theoretically Wiseman is going to be back, and Kuminga will get more time, but the losses of Porter and Bjelica are potentially huge. Aside from Wiseman’s injury, we had unusually good health amongst our big guys - Draymond missed some time, and Porter was in-and-out a little bit, but Looney didn’t miss a game, and Bjelica was always available. It’s inevitable we’ll have some more injuries up-front than we did last year, and we obviously don’t have anybody who can really stretch the floor. (I don’t but Wiseman’s 3-point shot.) So to me, the obvious guy to be interested in is Juancho, if he’ll take a minimum deal. He’s not great, but he has size, experience in complex offenses (I’m thinking Spain moreso than what he’s had in the NBA), and can hit open 3’s pretty decently. He’s not huge, but in a pinch could play some 5 (along with his natural fit as a 4). It’s a definite roster gap if we have absolutely no stretch bigs on the roster, and right now you’d have to say that’s the case.
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Post#876 » by wco81 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 5:46 am

If Jamychal Green is bought out he might be a good option, career 36.6% from 3.

But he might be more inclined to go back to his previous teams, Clippers and Nuggets, though the Nuggets shipped him up to get rid of his salary.
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Post#877 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Jul 9, 2022 12:27 am

Juancho and Moses Brown. Younger guys with upside that can take some minutes at 4 and 5.
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Post#878 » by xdrta+ » Sat Jul 9, 2022 8:18 pm

According to execs at the summer league the #1 FA value signing is Donte DiVincenzo.
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Post#879 » by ChuckDurn » Sat Jul 9, 2022 9:47 pm

xdrta+ wrote:According to execs at the summer league the #1 FA value signing is Donte DiVincenzo.

I’m going to guess that if they’d say it, the worst signing is Marvin Bagley on his deal……
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Post#880 » by Scoots1994 » Sat Jul 9, 2022 9:49 pm

The Clippers are looking to add Moses Brown. They got Diabate, don't let them take Moses too. :)

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