Fantasy Trade Thread

[Kobblehead]

I would add two years to Tobias Harris' contract just to avoid Harrison Barnes.

[76ciology]

I would add two years to Tobias Harris' contract just to avoid Harrison Barnes.

Barnes =
Worse rebounder
Worse defender
Worse scorer
Better contract

[76ciology]

better contract > Talent, because Tobias’s contract can be split and lead to depth?

Let’s say in terms of value among non-star players, Tobias is an 8.

Getting a couple of 4, isnt going to make us better. They’re nust going to get buried in the bench.

A couple of 5 isn’t also (i.e Bertans and Bullock).

A couple of 6-7 (i.e Holmes and Barnes), is doubtful to make us better. Barnes is a downgrade over Tobias. Im not sure Holmes upgrade over some cheap C or Bassey can make up for it.

And there’s no team who’s gonna give us a couple 7-8 value player for Tobias as.. charity?

[76ciology]

Pacers:
Thybulle
Springer
Korkmaz
Niang
Milton
- Youth of Thybulle and Springer

Nets:
Myles Turner
Tyrese Maxey
Tobias Harris

Nets 5:
Maxey
Joe Harris
Ben
Tobias
Myles Turner
- allows to compete short term
- one young star and a couple of borderline stars

Sixers:
Kevin Durant
Seth Curry
- No explanations needed

[the_process]

better contract > Talent, because Tobias’s contract can be split and lead to depth?

Let’s say in terms of value among non-star players, Tobias is an 8.

Getting a couple of 4, isnt going to make us better. They’re nust going to get buried in the bench.

A couple of 5 isn’t also (i.e Bertans and Bullock).

A couple of 6-7 (i.e Holmes and Barnes), is doubtful to make us better. Barnes is a downgrade over Tobias. Im not sure Holmes upgrade over some cheap C or Bassey can make up for it.

And there’s no team who’s gonna give us a couple 7-8 value player for Tobias as.. charity?

Tobias is not an 8, he's a 4.

Just have to convince another team that he's a 6, contract and all.

[phillynative]

better contract > Talent, because Tobias’s contract can be split and lead to depth?

Let’s say in terms of value among non-star players, Tobias is an 8.

Getting a couple of 4, isnt going to make us better. They’re nust going to get buried in the bench.

A couple of 5 isn’t also (i.e Bertans and Bullock).

A couple of 6-7 (i.e Holmes and Barnes), is doubtful to make us better. Barnes is a downgrade over Tobias. Im not sure Holmes upgrade over some cheap C or Bassey can make up for it.

And there’s no team who’s gonna give us a couple 7-8 value player for Tobias as.. charity?

Tobias is not an 8, he's a 4.

Just have to convince another team that he's a 6, contract and all.

[mjkvol]

better contract > Talent, because Tobias’s contract can be split and lead to depth?

Let’s say in terms of value among non-star players, Tobias is an 8.

Getting a couple of 4, isnt going to make us better. They’re nust going to get buried in the bench.

A couple of 5 isn’t also (i.e Bertans and Bullock).

A couple of 6-7 (i.e Holmes and Barnes), is doubtful to make us better. Barnes is a downgrade over Tobias. Im not sure Holmes upgrade over some cheap C or Bassey can make up for it.

And there’s no team who’s gonna give us a couple 7-8 value player for Tobias as.. charity?

Tobias is not an 8, he's a 4.

Just have to convince another team that he's a 6, contract and all.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^

[PhillyFan11]

Sixers out: Tobi, Thybulle, Korkmaz, Niang, Shake, ‘23 2nd
Sixers in: Roco, Marcus Morris, Josh Richardson, Doug McDermott

Clippers out: Reggie Jackson, Roco, Morris
Clippers in: Tobi and Thybulle

Spurs out: McDermott and Richardson
Spurs in: R Jackson, Niang, Korkmaz, ‘23 2nd

Harden/Melton
Maxey/Richardson
Roco/House/McDermott
Tucker/Reed/McDermott
Embiid/Morris/Bassey

[youngcrev]

If we just had Bertans and THJ instead of Tobias we'd have a championship by now (this is how illogical we've gotten with the Tobias thing at this point)

[eyeatoma]

But this is just between us.. Maxey only has average at best shot creation skills in ISO or PnR, very low volume of iso possessions and almost no PnR in the playoffs. Most of his offense is off the gravity of Biid or Harden, closeouts, transitions and spot ups.

…which makes him a good fit for Harden or Embiid

Just right now when I was looking at his PnR and ISO numbers, a guy who is similarly as good is Bones Hyland.

85.1 percentile as PnR ball handler in the regular season, 79.6 percentile in the playoffs.

88.6 percentile in isolation, 82.9 in the playoffs.

He was very good in both.

Of course his volumes in either weren't crazy high, he's playing with Joel Embiid and James Harden. Don't confuse ability with opportunity.

Maxey is a really good scoring threat. Finishes his drives at an elite rate while putting up an elite efficiency shooting season. I think he's better at attacking off balance defenses at this point in time, but he can certainly score as a focal point as well. I'd say its more his passing that would hold him back from being an elite iso/PnR guy... But he's also 21 years old and a gym eat, so the sky is the limit.

If he can have higher volume and he is facing the team’s best defender unlike the situation when he’s with Harden and Embiid, maybe he can sustain those numbers.

Like i said, he’s good and im not denying that. If he’s not good then why wouldnt i make him the center of a package for KD.

Nevertheless, im still trading him for kevin durant if its available. Just my personal preference. Im more after certainty and i’ll let my trade partner do the speculation.

This is kevin durant. Not Carmelo Anthony.

I can find a guy close to as good as Maxey in every draft.
Durant is once in a two decade type talent.

That doesn't mean that we'll get him. We had two #1 picks and weren't able to get someone as good as Maxey.

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[zaz102]

85.1 percentile as PnR ball handler in the regular season, 79.6 percentile in the playoffs.

88.6 percentile in isolation, 82.9 in the playoffs.

He was very good in both.

Of course his volumes in either weren't crazy high, he's playing with Joel Embiid and James Harden. Don't confuse ability with opportunity.

Maxey is a really good scoring threat. Finishes his drives at an elite rate while putting up an elite efficiency shooting season. I think he's better at attacking off balance defenses at this point in time, but he can certainly score as a focal point as well. I'd say its more his passing that would hold him back from being an elite iso/PnR guy... But he's also 21 years old and a gym eat, so the sky is the limit.

If he can have higher volume and he is facing the team’s best defender unlike the situation when he’s with Harden and Embiid, maybe he can sustain those numbers.

Like i said, he’s good and im not denying that. If he’s not good then why wouldnt i make him the center of a package for KD.

Nevertheless, im still trading him for kevin durant if its available. Just my personal preference. Im more after certainty and i’ll let my trade partner do the speculation.

This is kevin durant. Not Carmelo Anthony.

I can find a guy close to as good as Maxey in every draft.
Durant is once in a two decade type talent.

That doesn't mean that we'll get him. We had two #1 picks and weren't able to get someone as good as Maxey.

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Yeah, what kind of comment was that
Think of all the high draft picks and draft picks in general the Sixers had. How many guys did they find in the draft like Maxey?

If someone can find that every draft, they should submit their application to NBA FOs.

[76ciology]

If he can have higher volume and he is facing the team’s best defender unlike the situation when he’s with Harden and Embiid, maybe he can sustain those numbers.

Like i said, he’s good and im not denying that. If he’s not good then why wouldnt i make him the center of a package for KD.

Nevertheless, im still trading him for kevin durant if its available. Just my personal preference. Im more after certainty and i’ll let my trade partner do the speculation.

This is kevin durant. Not Carmelo Anthony.

I can find a guy close to as good as Maxey in every draft.
Durant is once in a two decade type talent.

That doesn't mean that we'll get him. We had two #1 picks and weren't able to get someone as good as Maxey.

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Yeah, what kind of comment was that
Think of all the high draft picks and draft picks in general the Sixers had. How many guys did they find in the draft like Maxey?

If someone can find that every draft, they should submit their application to NBA FOs.

I just dont have the sample size. But since adjusting my views on the game and the draft, I find there’s a lot of players who can be as good as Maxey as an offensive player.

Last season I found Bones Hyland (arguably better already with 19pts per 36 and a lot better shooter), Cam Thomas and Wagner. This season I found Keegan and possibly David Roddy if you want a non lottery pick. Kennedy Chandler is another one but he needs time.

If you dont believe me, then check the receipts in this board.

Im not saying im good at drafting. But there’s a lot of guys who are entering the league that already have the skillset required to be that 17-20ppg scorer in the league and all they need is opportunity to grow and opportunity to play.

For instance, if Trey Burke (a guy that fits this archetype) was drafted with a top 5 pick and was given opportunity to play, this kid should have atleast a 30+M contract by a team like the Knicks. Look at Jalen Brunson.

Im not selling low on Maxey. Im not saying Maxey is a cheap and bad player. Like ive discussed here before I do think Maxey is a Jrue Holiday to Tony Parker type player. And I’d trade Jrue Holiday at his peak and Tony Parker at his peak, combined, for a 34 yo Kevin Durant.

I think Kevin Durant is a once in a two decades type player. And championship is very hard that teams would sacrifice the unimaginable and do the unimaginable to get it that if you dont do and sacrifice the unimaginable you’re not going to get it.

For instance the Lakers had to sacrifice Bynum’s career and force him to play on a finals series that eventually ended his career. Teams would go the distance and steal your franchise player if you dont steal the franchise player from some other team.

If Kevin Durant ends up with the Celtics and Sixers goes to another second round exit, whats stopping the Heat from stealing away Embiid from us?

You call it dirty. Maybe you are just not competitive.

[youngcrev]

That doesn't mean that we'll get him. We had two #1 picks and weren't able to get someone as good as Maxey.

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Yeah, what kind of comment was that
Think of all the high draft picks and draft picks in general the Sixers had. How many guys did they find in the draft like Maxey?

If someone can find that every draft, they should submit their application to NBA FOs.

I just dont have the sample size. But since adjusting my views on the game and the draft, I find there’s a lot of players who can be as good as Maxey as an offensive player.

Last season I found Bones Hyland (arguably better already with 19pts per 36 and a lot better shooter), Cam Thomas and Wagner. This season I found Keegan and possibly David Roddy if you want a non lottery pick. Kennedy Chandler is another one but he needs time.

If you dont believe me, then check the receipts in this board.

Im not saying im good at drafting. But there’s a lot of guys who are entering the league that already have the skillset required to be that 17-20ppg scorer in the league and all they need is opportunity to grow and opportunity to play.

For instance, if Trey Burke (a guy that fits this archetype) was drafted with a top 5 pick and was given opportunity to play, this kid should have atleast a 30+M contract by a team like the Knicks. Look at Jalen Brunson.

Im not selling low on Maxey. Im not saying Maxey is a cheap and bad player. Like ive discussed here before I do think Maxey is a Jrue Holiday to Tony Parker type player. And I’d trade Jrue Holiday at his peak and Tony Parker at his peak, combined, for a 34 yo Kevin Durant.

I think Kevin Durant is a once in a two decades type player. And championship is very hard that teams would sacrifice the unimaginable and do the unimaginable to get it that if you dont do and sacrifice the unimaginable you’re not going to get it.

For instance the Lakers had to sacrifice Bynum’s career and force him to play on a finals series that eventually ended his career. Teams would go the distance and steal your franchise player if you dont steal the franchise player from some other team.

If Kevin Durant ends up with the Celtics and Sixers goes to another second round exit, whats stopping the Heat from stealing away Embiid from us?

You call it dirty. Maybe you are just not competitive.

Trey Burke was a top-10 pick and was gifted a 30+ mpg starting role immediately for the Jazz. Hell, the Knicks had him in 17-18 and gave him a shot at starting and playing big minutes for a stretch (started 9 games for them and played 33.6 mpg during that stretch).

He got almost the exact opportunity you're talking about.

There's a ton of guys that fit the archetype of "small, scoring guard", but there's levels to this ****.

[76ciology]

Yeah, what kind of comment was that
Think of all the high draft picks and draft picks in general the Sixers had. How many guys did they find in the draft like Maxey?

If someone can find that every draft, they should submit their application to NBA FOs.

I just dont have the sample size. But since adjusting my views on the game and the draft, I find there’s a lot of players who can be as good as Maxey as an offensive player.

Last season I found Bones Hyland (arguably better already with 19pts per 36 and a lot better shooter), Cam Thomas and Wagner. This season I found Keegan and possibly David Roddy if you want a non lottery pick. Kennedy Chandler is another one but he needs time.

If you dont believe me, then check the receipts in this board.

Im not saying im good at drafting. But there’s a lot of guys who are entering the league that already have the skillset required to be that 17-20ppg scorer in the league and all they need is opportunity to grow and opportunity to play.

For instance, if Trey Burke (a guy that fits this archetype) was drafted with a top 5 pick and was given opportunity to play, this kid should have atleast a 30+M contract by a team like the Knicks. Look at Jalen Brunson.

Im not selling low on Maxey. Im not saying Maxey is a cheap and bad player. Like ive discussed here before I do think Maxey is a Jrue Holiday to Tony Parker type player. And I’d trade Jrue Holiday at his peak and Tony Parker at his peak, combined, for a 34 yo Kevin Durant.

I think Kevin Durant is a once in a two decades type player. And championship is very hard that teams would sacrifice the unimaginable and do the unimaginable to get it that if you dont do and sacrifice the unimaginable you’re not going to get it.

For instance the Lakers had to sacrifice Bynum’s career and force him to play on a finals series that eventually ended his career. Teams would go the distance and steal your franchise player if you dont steal the franchise player from some other team.

If Kevin Durant ends up with the Celtics and Sixers goes to another second round exit, whats stopping the Heat from stealing away Embiid from us?

You call it dirty. Maybe you are just not competitive.

Trey Burke was a top-10 pick and was gifted a 30+ mpg starting role immediately for the Jazz. Hell, the Knicks had him in 17-18 and gave him a shot at starting and playing big minutes for a stretch (started 9 games for them and played 33.6 mpg during that stretch).

He got almost the exact opportunity you're talking about.

There's a ton of guys that fit the archetype of "small, scoring guard", but there's levels to this ****.

Ok.

You see, im a Sixers fan like you. But we all have different standards and in some i have lower standards than others.

If Maxey is worth more than Durant, why wouldnt i be not happy about it?

I just think Maxey is a Jrue Holiday or Tony Parker type player. Not a CP3 or Steph Curry type player. And again, I’d trade prime Jrue and prime Tony for 34yo Kevin Durant.

[youngcrev]

I just dont have the sample size. But since adjusting my views on the game and the draft, I find there’s a lot of players who can be as good as Maxey as an offensive player.

Last season I found Bones Hyland (arguably better already with 19pts per 36 and a lot better shooter), Cam Thomas and Wagner. This season I found Keegan and possibly David Roddy if you want a non lottery pick. Kennedy Chandler is another one but he needs time.

If you dont believe me, then check the receipts in this board.

Im not saying im good at drafting. But there’s a lot of guys who are entering the league that already have the skillset required to be that 17-20ppg scorer in the league and all they need is opportunity to grow and opportunity to play.

For instance, if Trey Burke (a guy that fits this archetype) was drafted with a top 5 pick and was given opportunity to play, this kid should have atleast a 30+M contract by a team like the Knicks. Look at Jalen Brunson.

Im not selling low on Maxey. Im not saying Maxey is a cheap and bad player. Like ive discussed here before I do think Maxey is a Jrue Holiday to Tony Parker type player. And I’d trade Jrue Holiday at his peak and Tony Parker at his peak, combined, for a 34 yo Kevin Durant.

I think Kevin Durant is a once in a two decades type player. And championship is very hard that teams would sacrifice the unimaginable and do the unimaginable to get it that if you dont do and sacrifice the unimaginable you’re not going to get it.

For instance the Lakers had to sacrifice Bynum’s career and force him to play on a finals series that eventually ended his career. Teams would go the distance and steal your franchise player if you dont steal the franchise player from some other team.

If Kevin Durant ends up with the Celtics and Sixers goes to another second round exit, whats stopping the Heat from stealing away Embiid from us?

You call it dirty. Maybe you are just not competitive.

Trey Burke was a top-10 pick and was gifted a 30+ mpg starting role immediately for the Jazz. Hell, the Knicks had him in 17-18 and gave him a shot at starting and playing big minutes for a stretch (started 9 games for them and played 33.6 mpg during that stretch).

He got almost the exact opportunity you're talking about.

There's a ton of guys that fit the archetype of "small, scoring guard", but there's levels to this ****.

Ok.

You see, im a Sixers fan like you. But we all have different standards and in some i have lower standards than others.

If Maxey is worth more than Durant, why wouldnt i be not happy about it?

I just think Maxey is a Jrue Holiday or Tony Parker type player. Not a CP3 or Steph Curry type player. And again, I’d trade prime Jrue and prime Tony for 34yo Kevin Durant.

I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to move him for Durant. Just pointing out the fallacy in your argument that he's some easily replaceable piece in the draft. Particularly if you think he's a Jrue Holiday/Tony Parker level piece. The Sixers were extremely lucky to land the level of player Maxey appears to be where they got him in the draft.

[PhillyNj]

That doesn't mean that we'll get him. We had two #1 picks and weren't able to get someone as good as Maxey.

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Yeah, what kind of comment was that
Think of all the high draft picks and draft picks in general the Sixers had. How many guys did they find in the draft like Maxey?

If someone can find that every draft, they should submit their application to NBA FOs.

I just dont have the sample size. But since adjusting my views on the game and the draft, I find there’s a lot of players who can be as good as Maxey as an offensive player.

Last season I found Bones Hyland (arguably better already with 19pts per 36 and a lot better shooter), Cam Thomas and Wagner. This season I found Keegan and possibly David Roddy if you want a non lottery pick. Kennedy Chandler is another one but he needs time.

If you dont believe me, then check the receipts in this board.

Im not saying im good at drafting. But there’s a lot of guys who are entering the league that already have the skillset required to be that 17-20ppg scorer in the league and all they need is opportunity to grow and opportunity to play.

For instance, if Trey Burke (a guy that fits this archetype) was drafted with a top 5 pick and was given opportunity to play, this kid should have atleast a 30+M contract by a team like the Knicks. Look at Jalen Brunson.

Im not selling low on Maxey. Im not saying Maxey is a cheap and bad player. Like ive discussed here before I do think Maxey is a Jrue Holiday to Tony Parker type player. And I’d trade Jrue Holiday at his peak and Tony Parker at his peak, combined, for a 34 yo Kevin Durant.

I think Kevin Durant is a once in a two decades type player. And championship is very hard that teams would sacrifice the unimaginable and do the unimaginable to get it that if you dont do and sacrifice the unimaginable you’re not going to get it.

For instance the Lakers had to sacrifice Bynum’s career and force him to play on a finals series that eventually ended his career. Teams would go the distance and steal your franchise player if you dont steal the franchise player from some other team.

If Kevin Durant ends up with the Celtics and Sixers goes to another second round exit, whats stopping the Heat from stealing away Embiid from us?

You call it dirty. Maybe you are just not competitive.

This view on Maxey is a load of cr@p.
Maxey had the third highest 3 point percentage last year and he’s not 22 yet. Maxey is special.
There are definitely not a lot of players who can do what he’s done.
And he is only getting better.

[the_process]

I would add two years to Tobias Harris' contract just to avoid Harrison Barnes.

I can't even.

[ProcessDoctor]

Harris/Thybulle/Milton for THJ/Bullock/Powell

Harden/Melton/Springer
Maxey/THJ/Joe or Queen
Bullock/House/Korkmaz
Tucker/Reed/Niang
Embiid/Powell/Bassey

[youngcrev]

What's a Cam Johnson trade look like? No way in hell they're paying him after matching the Ayton deal.

[the_process]

What's a Cam Johnson trade look like? No way in hell they're paying him after matching the Ayton deal.

You could try Thybulle and a lightly protected 2029 1st, although I don't think the Suns bite.

And the Sixers cannot do Niang, Thybulle, and Korkmaz for Cam and Dario because they are hard capped.

Looks like somebody's salary still needs to be reallocated.