Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion

nedleeds · Post #1821 » by **nedleeds** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:25 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
FrozenEnvelope wrote:
Grimes > Thomas

Grimes > RJ

Grimes is a better shooter, defender, passer and way more coachable.

Grimes finishes better with his off hand, has a better handle and is a better athlete.

F N 11 · Post #1822 » by **F N 11** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:27 pm

All the best to DSJ. He’s kind of down bad and he should probably go dominate some other league and make a name for himself.

He don’t play defense and he don’t run offense.

KnicksGadfly · Post #1823 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:54 pm

No interest in Sexton around the league, it looks like. Heard Cavs only want to pay him in the teens

nykballa2k4 · Post #1824 » by **nykballa2k4** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:07 pm

F N 11 wrote:All the best to DSJ. He’s kind of down bad and he should probably go dominate some other league and make a name for himself.

He don’t play defense and he don’t run offense.

Lakers should sign him and make him play exclusively with Westbrook all preseason to teach both a lesson.

Dave DaButcher · Post #1825 » by **Dave DaButcher** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:21 pm

Read on Twitter

?s=21&t=AXQZGlYc2pgJpWrVrAH9sQ

Ayton and Myles Turner, also widely known as the poor man’s Jericho Sims.

Jimmit79 · Post #1826 » by **Jimmit79** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:53 pm

So with Ayton going to Pacers does this mean Celtics or GSW can sneak in and get KD from nets?

nykballa2k4 · Post #1827 » by **nykballa2k4** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:55 pm

Dave DaButcher wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21&t=AXQZGlYc2pgJpWrVrAH9sQ

Ayton and Myles Turner, also widely known as the poor man’s Jericho Sims.

Confusing...Carlisle has a quote floating around that Turner is basically the perfect center in today's NBA. Also Carlisle has exactly 0 success with a ball dominant C, he just traded for a pretty good point guard and in subsequent drafts took kids with overinflated egos.

nedleeds · Post #1828 » by **nedleeds** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:03 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
F N 11 wrote:All the best to DSJ. He’s kind of down bad and he should probably go dominate some other league and make a name for himself.

He don’t play defense and he don’t run offense.

Lakers should sign him and make him play exclusively with Westbrook all preseason to teach both a lesson.

Westbrick, Sexton and DSJ with Monte Ellis and BJ Mullens at center.

spree2kawhi · Post #1829 » by **spree2kawhi** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:13 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:No interest in Sexton around the league, it looks like. Heard Cavs only want to pay him in the teens

S&t for Fournier.

nedleeds · Post #1830 » by **nedleeds** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:13 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
Dave DaButcher wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21&t=AXQZGlYc2pgJpWrVrAH9sQ

Ayton and Myles Turner, also widely known as the poor man’s Jericho Sims.

Confusing...Carlisle has a quote floating around that Turner is basically the perfect center in today's NBA. Also Carlisle has exactly 0 success with a ball dominant C, he just traded for a pretty good point guard and in subsequent drafts took kids with overinflated egos.

Pacers are just trying to get younger. Turner will be perfect with the Suns if he's healthy. He turns 27 this season and is in his "prime". His next contract will be bad. Ayton is entering his age 24 season. So they wind the clock back 3 years.

Bennedict Mathurin (20)
Haliburton (22)
Jackson (21)
Duarte (25)

nedleeds · Post #1831 » by **nedleeds** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:13 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:No interest in Sexton around the league, it looks like. Heard Cavs only want to pay him in the teens

S&t for Fournier.

No thanks. We have endless amounts of chuckers on this roster, why overpay for one with a blown ACL.

spree2kawhi · Post #1832 » by **spree2kawhi** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:14 pm

Jimmit79 wrote:So with Ayton going to Pacers does this mean Celtics or GSW can sneak in and get KD from nets?

Ayton may be worth it after all. Their team looks solid. Ayton is 23 yo

spree2kawhi · Post #1833 » by **spree2kawhi** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:20 pm

nedleeds wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:No interest in Sexton around the league, it looks like. Heard Cavs only want to pay him in the teens

S&t for Fournier.

No thanks. We have endless amounts of chuckers on this roster, why overpay for one with a blown ACL.

Because they heal and we actually have no player as talented as Sexton on the roster. He’s two years younger than Brunson and would be perfect in a guard rotation with Brunson and RJ. Either we’re building something or we don’t care. Can’t win only with players like IQ.

Brunson
Sexton
RJ
Randle/Toppin
Mitch

or off the bench

Brunson/Sexton
RJ/Sexton
Cam
Randle/Toppin
Mitch

spree2kawhi · Post #1834 » by **spree2kawhi** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:22 pm

nedleeds wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Dave DaButcher wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21&t=AXQZGlYc2pgJpWrVrAH9sQ

Ayton and Myles Turner, also widely known as the poor man’s Jericho Sims.

Confusing...Carlisle has a quote floating around that Turner is basically the perfect center in today's NBA. Also Carlisle has exactly 0 success with a ball dominant C, he just traded for a pretty good point guard and in subsequent drafts took kids with overinflated egos.

Pacers are just trying to get younger. Turner will be perfect with the Suns if he's healthy. He turns 27 this season and is in his "prime". His next contract will be bad. Ayton is entering his age 24 season. So they wind the clock back 3 years.

Bennedict Mathurin (20)
Haliburton (22)
Jackson (21)
Duarte (25)

It is what we should have done all along. They get younger and better.

nedleeds · Post #1835 » by **nedleeds** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:24 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:S&t for Fournier.

we don’t care.

This. If we cared about winning this FO wouldn't have signed Randle, Noel, Burks, Rose, Fournier, Walker to negative value contracts. Signing another negative value contract for a chucker whose team immediately improved when he died would actually follow pretty well.

We have a glut of mediocre young guards that need to play.

I'm not opposed to launching Fournier into the Sun but giving up assets to get off his deal for Sexton is an awful idea. I guess if Cleveland is just willing to do it straight up for roughly the same years and salary I'd be fine with it.

DaGawd · Post #1836 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:29 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:S&t for Fournier.

No thanks. We have endless amounts of chuckers on this roster, why overpay for one with a blown ACL.

Because they heal and we actually have no player as talented as Sexton on the roster. He’s two years younger than Brunson and would be perfect in a guard rotation with Brunson and RJ. Either we’re building something or we don’t care. Can’t win only with players like IQ.

Brunson
Sexton
RJ
Randle/Toppin
Mitch

or off the bench

Brunson/Sexton
RJ/Sexton
Cam
Randle/Toppin
Mitch

If we we’re to go after Sex.. I’d then immediately try and trade IQ Cam and maybe Obi in a package for something nice.. like Donovan Mitchell

nedleeds · Post #1837 » by **nedleeds** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:30 pm

DaGawd wrote:trade IQ Cam and maybe Obi in a package for something nice.. like Donovan Mitchell

Did you see what they got for a worse player on a worse contract? How many picks are in this deal? 5?

nykballa2k4 · Post #1838 » by **nykballa2k4** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:37 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Confusing...Carlisle has a quote floating around that Turner is basically the perfect center in today's NBA. Also Carlisle has exactly 0 success with a ball dominant C, he just traded for a pretty good point guard and in subsequent drafts took kids with overinflated egos.

Pacers are just trying to get younger. Turner will be perfect with the Suns if he's healthy. He turns 27 this season and is in his "prime". His next contract will be bad. Ayton is entering his age 24 season. So they wind the clock back 3 years.

Bennedict Mathurin (20)
Haliburton (22)
Jackson (21)
Duarte (25)

It is what we should have done all along. They get younger and better.

Duarte is like the same age as Randle and Brunson...

Post #1839 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:39 pm

Let's hope there's more trades to come cause this team has too many players that need minutes that won't get them. Keeping this team as is is a waste.

spree2kawhi · Post #1840 » by **spree2kawhi** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:47 pm

moocow007 wrote:Let's hope there's more trades to come cause this team has too many players that need minutes that won't get them. Keeping this team as is is a waste.

You could say we have the most beautiful supporting cast with literally not a single player to build around (not even on the horizon).