Woj: Play-In Tournament Set to Become Permanent Fixture for Future NBA Seasons

Godymas · Post #21 » by **Godymas** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:18 pm

Yes I want this to stay permanent for the dream scenario of the day a 10th seed somehow makes it into the playoffs and then somehow upsets the 1 seed. it will be historically great.

Edrees · Post #22 » by **Edrees** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:40 pm

I do like the idea of the play in overall, but I wish they'd change the format at least to maintain the integrity of the regular season a bit more. I propose a very slight tweak that I think is a good compromise between "exciting chance for seeds 9 and 10 to make playoffs, exciting 2 game elimination tournament" with the idea that "7 and 8 seeds earned their spot".

Make it like this
7 plays 10 in a best of 3, but 7 automatically enters the series with 1 win. Winner of series makes the playoffs
8 plays 9 in a best of 3, but 8 automatically enters the series with 1 win. Winner of series makes the playoffs

Still only 2 games max for each team so it wont add any games to the NBA schedule. Also this will still be exciting, since as before, 7 and 8 need to lose 2 games to miss playoffs, and 9 and 10 both need to win 2 games to make the playoffs, just like the current format. The purpose of the play in is captured with this format. It's just that 7 and 8 should never have to play each other. that's really stupid. make seeds 9 and 10 earn it against the teams that earned it more in the regular season.

Knightfall · Post #23 » by **Knightfall** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:52 pm

Next step is every team makes the playoffs and have a fair shot at the finals. That way no team or fan base says their vaginal opening hurts.

Schiltzenberger · Post #24 » by **Schiltzenberger** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:14 pm

It's garbage, one of the dumbest things the NBA has done. It just rewards mediocrity.

It's not exciting at all, it's a cripple fight to see who ends up cannon fodder in the 1st round. There is no appeal whatsoever.

Even the statistics from the games go into a black hole, they're neither regular season or playoff stats. They're meaningless, just like the games themselves.

HangTime · Post #25 » by **HangTime** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:19 pm

i don't mind it if the 10th is within say 2-3 games of 8th.

Big J · Post #26 » by **Big J** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:22 pm

It feels too gimmicky.

JujitsuFlip · Post #27 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:05 am

They need to start tracking the stats somewhere!

art_tatum · Post #28 » by **art_tatum** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:09 am

It completely messed up the 2021 playoffs but overall it's fine. But now 82 games is too long and i would rather have a mid season knockout tourney for the brackets and less reg games

JnewFTW · Post #29 » by **JnewFTW** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:34 am

Tor_Raps wrote:Good... if you're a real playoff team, get a top 6 seed. No one should be crying about more high stakes basketball.

Yeah except a competition between 7-10 to see who gets slaughtered by the 1 seed isn't "high stakes basketball"

Tor_Raps · Post #30 » by **Tor_Raps** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:36 am

JnewFTW wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Good... if you're a real playoff team, get a top 6 seed. No one should be crying about more high stakes basketball.

Yeah except a competition between 7-10 to see who gets slaughtered by the 1 seed isn't "high stakes basketball"

The play in games are those teams championships... let them have their fun. It's also pretty competitive and had led to some good entertainment.

Ein Sof · Post #31 » by **Ein Sof** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:50 am

The play-in has been a terrible idea, but what's worse is that some people have started to say **** like "Curry missed the playoffs" and what not.

Just... zero ability to think critically about a situation.

Roscoe Sheed · Post #32 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:26 am

I’m against it unless modified. The clippers had a better record by 6 games over the pelicans but lost out on the playoffs largely due to pg13 getting COVID. For one game, freakish stuff like that can nullify the efforts of the whole season

skones · Post #33 » by **skones** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:39 am

It's a cash grab and feels cheap. 7 and 8 are nothing of consequence and everyone knows it. It's a way to drum up interest that's not there in a sacrificial lamb.

iggymcfrack · Post #34 » by **iggymcfrack** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:10 am

Gotta be honest, I'm shocked to see "no" winning this poll. I feel like the play-in tournament has been an unmitigated success. It's made the regular season more meaningful, it's added exciting games at the beginning of the postseason, I don't know what else you could want. In the past I thought the people being critical were just a vocal minority of haters. I can't believe so many fans genuinely dislike it.

iggymcfrack · Post #35 » by **iggymcfrack** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:12 am

Ein Sof wrote:The play-in has been a terrible idea, but what's worse is that some people have started to say **** like "Curry missed the playoffs" and what not.

Just... zero ability to think critically about a situation.

Because it's unfair that the 39-35 Warriors missed out on the 8 seed to the (checks notes) 40-34 Grizzlies after losing to them at home? Maybe you're the one that needs to work on your critical thinking.

Ein Sof · Post #36 » by **Ein Sof** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:25 am

iggymcfrack wrote:
Ein Sof wrote:The play-in has been a terrible idea, but what's worse is that some people have started to say **** like "Curry missed the playoffs" and what not.

Just... zero ability to think critically about a situation.

Because it's unfair that the 39-35 Warriors missed out on the 8 seed to the (checks notes) 40-34 Grizzlies after losing to them at home? Maybe you're the one that needs to work on your critical thinking.

The Grizzlies had 40 wins? :lol:

Yes, it's unfair the Warriors lost the 8th seed they fought for all season, brain genius.

iggymcfrack · Post #37 » by **iggymcfrack** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:46 am

Ein Sof wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:
Ein Sof wrote:The play-in has been a terrible idea, but what's worse is that some people have started to say **** like "Curry missed the playoffs" and what not.

Just... zero ability to think critically about a situation.

Because it's unfair that the 39-35 Warriors missed out on the 8 seed to the (checks notes) 40-34 Grizzlies after losing to them at home? Maybe you're the one that needs to work on your critical thinking.

The Grizzlies had 40 wins?

Yes, it's unfair the Warriors lost the 8th seed they fought for all season, brain genius.

When the playoffs started they did. The Warriors should have gotten the 8 seed for having a better record after 72 games even though they didn't after 74 games? That's a miscarriage of justice somehow?

pipfan · Post #38 » by **pipfan** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:57 am

I understand people saying it's not "fair", but life isn't fair. It has increase competition for teams in seeds 5-12. The middle seeds fight to avoid the play in, the 7/8 seeds fight to avoid the lower seeds, the 9/10 seeds fight to move up to 7/9 and the 11/12 seeds fight to get in the playin.
Plus, the single elimination makes things more meaningful.

PLUS, it allows better playoff teams a bit of time to rest before the games start

PLUS-PLUS, it allows the league to showcase some young guys for a week who otherwise wouldn't get as much attention

Overall, it-along with changing the lottery odds-has reduced tanking a good deal, which is GREAT for the league

Da ThRONe · Post #39 » by **Da ThRONe** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:00 am

It just dilutes an already watered down regular season. And as mentioned either team will advance pass the 1st round probably less than 5% of the time. There's no way a system should allow a team to be 10+ games ahead of another team or two and still miss the playoffs none.

Post #40 » by **FJS** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:11 am

Yes but... if there's a great margin between teams it shouldn't be applicable.

Something like last year Clippers-New Orleans it is not fair. Too much difference. You can't win in one game what you did not in 82.

Sometimes 8th seed is 42-40 and 9th is 41-41 or 40-42... then it is fair, but something like 41-41 & 34-48 doesn't work in my opinion.

Right call by the NBA?