[HAYNES] Nets and Lakers actively talking Russ/Kyrie trade…

[Schiltzenberger]

Kyrie/Harris for Westbrook/27’-1st/28’-swap/29’-1st…. What’s the holdup?

The hold up is the Lakers aren’t going to bid against themselves. Challenging the Nets to find a better deal than a single first and a swap for a player the Nets don’t want anything to do with (Kyrie), and a player they are trying to get off his second year owed (Harris).

The Nets don't have to do a thing.
They'd be better off keeping Kyrie's contract with him on the sideline than bringing in Westbrook and his contract.
There is no way in hell they just throw Harris in to make the salaries match either. That idea is mental.

If the Lakers want Kyrie, they need to find somewhere to offload Westbrook, then trade whatever assets are needed for Kyrie. As I said, if they don't, then the Nets can sit back and wait it out...... Then LeGM will step in and force the Lakers to throw everything at getting Kyrie because he can't afford to waste another year.

It's very simple, neither team wants their current problem. However, the Lakers want Kyrie and the Nets don't want Westbrook. The ball is in the Lakers' court, if they want something to happen, they've gotta make it happen.

So yeah, the Lakers will be bidding against themselves.

[Slava]

Yeah the Nets can sit back while their employees drop quaaludes in office water fountains to get through their day. Its also a completely tenable situation and Joe Tsai is very comfortable holding onto a $150M payroll with a work from home Kyrie and a totally not injured Joe Harris collecting a quarter of the salary while the lion hearted man that is Benjamin Simmons leads Seth Curry, David Duke (not that one) and Cam "What's a Pass" Thomas to the play-in tourney.

[Miami_Lux]

Face it laker fans....you don't have jack tish to trade of any value. I mean do u think a broken down AD , horrific westbrick and some straight up crap bench players with some unknown draft pics are going to get u anything?.... also, who in this league do u think is trying to do u any favors here? Why in the hell would they do that. I'm under the impression most fans, and teams alike dont like your franchise very much....I should know, it's the same for the celtics.

If I'm the nets... I just hang tight, trade them during the trade deadline when contenders need that last push and get desperate. You will be more likely to get most of your trade demands met at that point

Exactly. These 2 1st round picks mean nothing when that means a team has to take one of the worst starting point guards in the NBA. THT is trash. Kendrick Nunn is liablity. Anthony Davis is injury prone and at this point,I can't even see a team that would be willing to trade a role player for him. The Lakers couldn't even trade for a freaking injury prone Malcolm Brodgon in exchange for Russell Westbrook and a unprotected 2027 1st round pick because Pacers didn't think his awful contract was worth getting a future draft pick(which has a good chance of being inside the top 5-7). Even the Rockets asked for a unprotected 1st round pick for John Wall who hasn't played more than 41 games since 2017 and clearly isn't the same player anymore. What makes Lakers fans think they can somehow get Kyrie Irving and Joe Harris?

I also agree that the Nets need to wait untl the regular season before even considering trading Kyrie. I could see the Mavericks,the Heat(if they don't get Kevin Durant),the 76ers,the Timberwolves,or even the Clippers become interested in getting Kyrie and I'm very sure they would offer a much better trade package than the Lakers.

I have read this multiple times now and I need to push back against that argument that AD is an injury prone liability. AD has played 138 games over the past 3 years. Yes that is not a lot. But Durant has only played 90 games over the same time span. So why is it that people constantly mention AD s fragility but I doesn't seem to be an issue for Durant who actually has played way less games over the past three years. Not to mention that KD will turn 34 soon and AD is still only 29.

[Liam_Gallagher]

Westbrook, Wenyen Gabriel, 2027 1st, 2029 1st to the Nets for Irving, Seth Curry and Day'Ron Sharpe.

Lakers new depth chart:

G - Irving/Nunn
G - Walker IV/Curry
F - James/THT/Reaves
F - Davis/JTA/Johnson
C - Bryant/Jones/Sharpe

Pelinka needs to use all of their firsts for Kyrie. None of those 1st round picks will be in the same universe as a player like Kyrie. Plus, this trade allows us to keep our big 3 for at least a year or two, as James will likely extend his contract.

1st round picks are useless when you have James, Davis, and Irving on your squad with insane role players like Curry, Bryant, and THT. The whole point of drafting players is to one day have the roster this team can potentially have today.

[81Zees]

Lakers would be better off with the package from Indy than going after Kyrie. Kyrie is one of the best offensive players but their problem wasn't lack of offense, but their porous defense. For this team to be at its best, LeBron would need to be the point guard much like 2020 and AD needs to be the first on offense and surround LeBron and AD with 3 and D players. If lakers can trade Westbrook and some picks for Turner and Hield with Indy, they would get a proven defensive big in Turner who can also make some threes and a proven sniper in Hield much like Ray Allen in Miami.

They also need to try to see if Spurs are willing to trade Josh Richardson for THT and possibly a future second round pick. This would give them better flexibility on offense and much better defense.

Lebron/ Nunn
Hield/Walker/Reaves
Josh Richardson/ JTA/Troy Brown
AD/Melo?/ Johnson
Turner/Bryant/Jones

This roster would provide better shooting and better defense. This line-up needs more playmaker or defensive guard or forward but may be they luck out and get Beverly who is also a good 3 and D guard but not a great play maker.

[John Murdoch]

Lakers would be better off with the package from Indy than going after Kyrie. Kyrie is one of the best offensive players but their problem wasn't lack of offense, but their porous defense. For this team to be at its best, LeBron would need to be the point guard much like 2020 and AD needs to be the first on offense and surround LeBron and AD with 3 and D players. If lakers can trade Westbrook and some picks for Turner and Hield with Indy, they would get a proven defensive big in Turner who can also make some threes and a proven sniper in Hield much like Ray Allen in Miami.

They also need to try to see if Spurs are willing to trade Josh Richardson for THT and possibly a future second round pick. This would give them better flexibility on offense and much better defense.

Lebron/ Nunn
Hield/Walker/Reaves
Josh Richardson/ JTA/Troy Brown
AD/Melo?/ Johnson
Turner/Bryant/Jones

This roster would provide better shooting and better defense. This line-up needs more playmaker or defensive guard or forward but may be they luck out and get Beverly who is also a good 3 and D guard but not a great play maker.

LeBron doesnt want to have to bring the ball up every posession like hes 19yo..Hields a non defender and isnt the answer sry bud

[hoosierdaddy34]

Kyrie/Harris for Westbrook/27’-1st/28’-swap/29’-1st…. What’s the holdup?

The hold up is the Lakers aren’t going to bid against themselves. Challenging the Nets to find a better deal than a single first and a swap for a player the Nets don’t want anything to do with (Kyrie), and a player they are trying to get off his second year owed (Harris).

The Nets don't have to do a thing.
They'd be better off keeping Kyrie's contract with him on the sideline than bringing in Westbrook and his contract.
There is no way in hell they just throw Harris in to make the salaries match either. That idea is mental.

If the Lakers want Kyrie, they need to find somewhere to offload Westbrook, then trade whatever assets are needed for Kyrie. As I said, if they don't, then the Nets can sit back and wait it out...... Then LeGM will step in and force the Lakers to throw everything at getting Kyrie because he can't afford to waste another year.

It's very simple, neither team wants their current problem. However, the Lakers want Kyrie and the Nets don't want Westbrook. The ball is in the Lakers' court, if they want something to happen, they've gotta make it happen.

So yeah, the Lakers will be bidding against themselves.

East answer to that. Dare the Nets to go into the season with Kyrie on the roster and watch the **** show that happens, which it’s clear the Nets don’t have the Stomach for. And if they try to dump Kyrie (which is what they will have to do because they aren’t getting a pick of any kind from anyone else for him) then he probably gets a buy out from whoever he gets traded to. And signs with the Lakers as a vet min. And it’s clear your owner wants to move on from the KD and Irving era.

What you aren’t getting is that Kyrie has no value around the league, and no one wants him outside of the Lakers. You have to have the threat of another bidder to get a team to bid against themselves, you don’t have that. You aren’t getting anything for him outside of attaching Joe Harris contract. But the compensation goes with Westbrook. So if you don’t take Westbrook…that’s your only hope of getting a first round pick in the deal. If that goes to San Antonio or elsewhere with Russ, then you are moving on from Kyrie with extremely limited return.

Lakers can just wait it out. It will break their way eventually.

[facothomas22]

Face it laker fans....you don't have jack tish to trade of any value. I mean do u think a broken down AD , horrific westbrick and some straight up crap bench players with some unknown draft pics are going to get u anything?.... also, who in this league do u think is trying to do u any favors here? Why in the hell would they do that. I'm under the impression most fans, and teams alike dont like your franchise very much....I should know, it's the same for the celtics.

If I'm the nets... I just hang tight, trade them during the trade deadline when contenders need that last push and get desperate. You will be more likely to get most of your trade demands met at that point

Exactly. These 2 1st round picks mean nothing when that means a team has to take one of the worst starting point guards in the NBA. THT is trash. Kendrick Nunn is liablity. Anthony Davis is injury prone and at this point,I can't even see a team that would be willing to trade a role player for him. The Lakers couldn't even trade for a freaking injury prone Malcolm Brodgon in exchange for Russell Westbrook and a unprotected 2027 1st round pick because Pacers didn't think his awful contract was worth getting a future draft pick(which has a good chance of being inside the top 5-7). Even the Rockets asked for a unprotected 1st round pick for John Wall who hasn't played more than 41 games since 2017 and clearly isn't the same player anymore. What makes Lakers fans think they can somehow get Kyrie Irving and Joe Harris?

I also agree that the Nets need to wait untl the regular season before even considering trading Kyrie. I could see the Mavericks,the Heat(if they don't get Kevin Durant),the 76ers,the Timberwolves,or even the Clippers become interested in getting Kyrie and I'm very sure they would offer a much better trade package than the Lakers.

I have read this multiple times now and I need to push back against that argument that AD is an injury prone liability. AD has played 138 games over the past 3 years. Yes that is not a lot. But Durant has only played 90 games over the same time span. So why is it that people constantly mention AD s fragility but I doesn't seem to be an issue for Durant who actually has played way less games over the past three years. Not to mention that KD will turn 34 soon and AD is still only 29.

Kevin Durant is a far better player than Anthony Davis,which is why people can overlook his injury history.What would any team be gaining to trading anyone meaningful for a injury prone Anthony Davis,who isn't even the same player anymore? A rebuilding team has no use for AD. A team without draft picks(the Nets for example) has no use for AD. A borderline playoff team has no use for AD. A team that just one or two pieces away from contending has no use for AD.Neither does a Championship team. Due to his injury and him declining,his trade value is honsetly about as low as Russell Westbrook,which is why the Lakers aren't bothering trying to trade AD for assets becasue they know they won't be able due to no team wanting him.

[SK21209]

Exactly. These 2 1st round picks mean nothing when that means a team has to take one of the worst starting point guards in the NBA. THT is trash. Kendrick Nunn is liablity. Anthony Davis is injury prone and at this point,I can't even see a team that would be willing to trade a role player for him. The Lakers couldn't even trade for a freaking injury prone Malcolm Brodgon in exchange for Russell Westbrook and a unprotected 2027 1st round pick because Pacers didn't think his awful contract was worth getting a future draft pick(which has a good chance of being inside the top 5-7). Even the Rockets asked for a unprotected 1st round pick for John Wall who hasn't played more than 41 games since 2017 and clearly isn't the same player anymore. What makes Lakers fans think they can somehow get Kyrie Irving and Joe Harris?

I also agree that the Nets need to wait untl the regular season before even considering trading Kyrie. I could see the Mavericks,the Heat(if they don't get Kevin Durant),the 76ers,the Timberwolves,or even the Clippers become interested in getting Kyrie and I'm very sure they would offer a much better trade package than the Lakers.

I have read this multiple times now and I need to push back against that argument that AD is an injury prone liability. AD has played 138 games over the past 3 years. Yes that is not a lot. But Durant has only played 90 games over the same time span. So why is it that people constantly mention AD s fragility but I doesn't seem to be an issue for Durant who actually has played way less games over the past three years. Not to mention that KD will turn 34 soon and AD is still only 29.

Kevin Durant is a far better player than Anthony Davis,which is why people can overlook his injury history.What would any team be gaining to trading anyone meaningful for a injury prone Anthony Davis,who isn't even the same player anymore? A rebuilding team has no use for AD. A team without draft picks(the Nets for example) has no use for AD. A borderline playoff has no use for AD. A team that just one piece away from contending has no use for AD.Neither does a Championship team? Due to his injury and him declining,his trade value is honsetly about as low as Russell Westbrook,which is why the Lakers isn't bother trying to trade AD for assets becasue they know they won't be able becasue no team wants him.

you've been pretty funny throughout this thread, but this one takes the cake

[The High Cyde]

People are saying both teams can afford to wait this out, but I’m not so sure. Brooklyn has become toxic, as long as those two malcontents are still on the roster, and in LA it’s starting to become so as I think it’s been made absolutely clear that by everyone in the org that Russ is not wanted either, so much so that LeBron and Russ aren’t even acknowledging each other in the same building.

Durant and Irving might be able to run it back, the Lakers can’t, they’re too old and just devoid of talent. They’ll just crash and burn if they do nothing, then LeBron walks and good luck staying relevant down the road. Ain’t no superstar signing to a mom and pop shop counting pennies for a good long while. Not with the Clips with Ballmer rolling out red carpets.

[ragesincemdxvi]

If the Nets have to take one of the worst starting point guards in the NBA,who also makes over 45 million per year on his contract in exchange for Kyrie Irving and Joe Harris,I think it's only fair that the Nets do ask for 4 unprotected 1st round picks from the Lakers. The Rockets asked for a unprotected 1st round pick for John Wall,who has played 41 or less games every year since 2017, clearly not the same player anymore,and a guy the Rockets weren't planning on keeping anyway. It's reasonable to expect for draft compensation to be far higher regarding Kyrie Irving and Joe Harris compared to John Wall in exchange for Westbrook.

And the fact that the Rockets ended up buying John Wall out clearly indicates that their offer was ridiculously farfetched.

Don't waste your time with the troll, I remember when AD was traded to us he was big mad.

go back to check his older posts.

[JN61]

Would love to see it just for Lakers and Lebron fans trying to find another scapegoat.

[Jagic Mohnson]

People are saying both teams can afford to wait this out, but I’m not so sure. Brooklyn has become toxic, as long as those two malcontents are still on the roster, and in LA it’s starting to become so as I think it’s been made absolutely clear that by everyone in the org that Russ is not wanted either, so much so that LeBron and Russ aren’t even acknowledging each other in the same building.

Durant and Irving might be able to run it back, the Lakers can’t, they’re too old and just devoid of talent. They’ll just crash and burn if they do nothing, then LeBron walks and good luck staying relevant down the road. Ain’t no superstar signing to a mom and pop shop counting pennies for a good long while. Not with the Clips with Ballmer rolling out red carpets.

All that money and zero rings to show for it. Jeannie has 1 ring under her belt. How many rings does fatboy Balmer have.

[sonic the laker]

People are saying both teams can afford to wait this out, but I’m not so sure. Brooklyn has become toxic, as long as those two malcontents are still on the roster, and in LA it’s starting to become so as I think it’s been made absolutely clear that by everyone in the org that Russ is not wanted either, so much so that LeBron and Russ aren’t even acknowledging each other in the same building.

Durant and Irving might be able to run it back, the Lakers can’t, they’re too old and just devoid of talent. They’ll just crash and burn if they do nothing, then LeBron walks and good luck staying relevant down the road. Ain’t no superstar signing to a mom and pop shop counting pennies for a good long while. Not with the Clips with Ballmer rolling out red carpets.

Granted. this opine would have been valid, last season. You do realize that the Lakers have revamped their roster, and that the oldest players are LeBron James (37), and Westbrook (33). The next oldest players are AD and Juan Toscano-Anderson, both at 29 yrs old. It just gets younger, from there.

As for nobody wanting Westbrook. That's mainly from LeBron, and a part of the fandom. The FO realizes that RW isn't a natural fit, but have steeled themselves for another go-around, if no good...and I repeat good...deals present themselves. Which is why they made it imperative that any coach coming in, would have to have a game plan, incorporating RW. The FO is not going to flush further assets down the crapper, just to jettison RW. That includes overpaying, in any potential trade deals. And, I applaud them for this. It's the smart move.

All that said, while relations between LeBron and RW may be "chilly", it's nowhere near toxic. The Nets are indeed in a toxic situation. Does that force them to trade? No. But, they're under more pressure to make moves, than the Lakers are. The Nets two stars have asked out. I haven't heard LeBron, Westbrook, or AD ask out, yet. So...

As for the Lakers being devoid of talent, that's just patently false. Despite last years performance, LeBron, and AD are still top tier talent. RW, while not what he used to be, is still talented guard, for all his flaws. The jury is out, in regards to the rest of our young roster. But, I believe there's more there than people realize. And, I think Darvin is the right coach, to bring it all together. And, while Clippers have been rolling out red carpets, they still haven't won a chip, yet. Lakers are still the best mom and pop shop in the world. Period.

[The High Cyde]

People are saying both teams can afford to wait this out, but I’m not so sure. Brooklyn has become toxic, as long as those two malcontents are still on the roster, and in LA it’s starting to become so as I think it’s been made absolutely clear that by everyone in the org that Russ is not wanted either, so much so that LeBron and Russ aren’t even acknowledging each other in the same building.

Durant and Irving might be able to run it back, the Lakers can’t, they’re too old and just devoid of talent. They’ll just crash and burn if they do nothing, then LeBron walks and good luck staying relevant down the road. Ain’t no superstar signing to a mom and pop shop counting pennies for a good long while. Not with the Clips with Ballmer rolling out red carpets.

All that money and zero rings to show for it. Jeannie has 1 ring under her belt. How many rings does fatboy Balmer have.

Lol Jeanie lucked into it when Bron decided to sign there and bring AD with him. It ain’t happening again.

[Kilroy]

So nothing new today then, huh?

[The High Cyde]

People are saying both teams can afford to wait this out, but I’m not so sure. Brooklyn has become toxic, as long as those two malcontents are still on the roster, and in LA it’s starting to become so as I think it’s been made absolutely clear that by everyone in the org that Russ is not wanted either, so much so that LeBron and Russ aren’t even acknowledging each other in the same building.

Durant and Irving might be able to run it back, the Lakers can’t, they’re too old and just devoid of talent. They’ll just crash and burn if they do nothing, then LeBron walks and good luck staying relevant down the road. Ain’t no superstar signing to a mom and pop shop counting pennies for a good long while. Not with the Clips with Ballmer rolling out red carpets.

Granted. this opine would have been valid, last season. You do realize that the Lakers have revamped their roster, and that the oldest players are LeBron James (37), and Westbrook (33). The next oldest players are AD and Juan Toscano-Anderson, both at 29 yrs old. It just gets younger, from there.

As for nobody wanting Westbrook. That's mainly from LeBron, and a part of the fandom. The FO realizes that RW isn't a natural fit, but have steeled themselves for another go-around, if no good...and I repeat good...deals present themselves. Which is why they made it imperative that any coach coming in, would have to have a game plan, incorporating RW. The FO is not going to flush further assets down the crapper, just to jettison RW. That includes overpaying, in any potential trade deals. And, I applaud them for this. It's the smart move.

All that said, while relations between LeBron and RW may be "chilly", it's nowhere near toxic. The Nets are indeed in a toxic situation. Does that force them to trade? No. But, they're under more pressure to make moves, than the Lakers are. The Nets two stars have asked out. I haven't heard LeBron, Westbrook, or AD ask out, yet. So...

As for the Lakers being devoid of talent, that's just patently false. Despite last years performance, LeBron, and AD are still top tier talent. RW, while not what he used to be, is still talented guard, for all his flaws. The jury is out, in regards to the rest of our young roster. But, I believe there's more there than people realize. And, I think Darvin is the right coach, to bring it all together. And, while Clippers have been rolling out red carpets, they still haven't won a chip, yet. Lakers are still the best mom and pop shop in the world. Period.

It’ll be interesting for sure. As a Bron fan, I hope he has the best possible team around him, and that requires Irving on the roster since he’s a viable target. You might have to give up both firsts here, Westbrook is just that bad. He’s productive but not impactful in the least. His offense has been falling apart for years now, and his defense is nonexistent. You’ll never win with him, his style of play is anathema to winning a chip, which is all LeBron cares about, as he should at this stage in his career.

As I told the other Laker fan, Lakers lucked into LeBron wanting to go there and bring in AD for that one chip. It’s not happening again. Your best shot is trading what little farm you have to pry open the window again this year. It’ll be a barren landscape for a few years, but that’s the price you have to pay for a shot.

[sonic the laker]

People are saying both teams can afford to wait this out, but I’m not so sure. Brooklyn has become toxic, as long as those two malcontents are still on the roster, and in LA it’s starting to become so as I think it’s been made absolutely clear that by everyone in the org that Russ is not wanted either, so much so that LeBron and Russ aren’t even acknowledging each other in the same building.

Durant and Irving might be able to run it back, the Lakers can’t, they’re too old and just devoid of talent. They’ll just crash and burn if they do nothing, then LeBron walks and good luck staying relevant down the road. Ain’t no superstar signing to a mom and pop shop counting pennies for a good long while. Not with the Clips with Ballmer rolling out red carpets.

Granted. this opine would have been valid, last season. You do realize that the Lakers have revamped their roster, and that the oldest players are LeBron James (37), and Westbrook (33). The next oldest players are AD and Juan Toscano-Anderson, both at 29 yrs old. It just gets younger, from there.

As for nobody wanting Westbrook. That's mainly from LeBron, and a part of the fandom. The FO realizes that RW isn't a natural fit, but have steeled themselves for another go-around, if no good...and I repeat good...deals present themselves. Which is why they made it imperative that any coach coming in, would have to have a game plan, incorporating RW. The FO is not going to flush further assets down the crapper, just to jettison RW. That includes overpaying, in any potential trade deals. And, I applaud them for this. It's the smart move.

All that said, while relations between LeBron and RW may be "chilly", it's nowhere near toxic. The Nets are indeed in a toxic situation. Does that force them to trade? No. But, they're under more pressure to make moves, than the Lakers are. The Nets two stars have asked out. I haven't heard LeBron, Westbrook, or AD ask out, yet. So...

As for the Lakers being devoid of talent, that's just patently false. Despite last years performance, LeBron, and AD are still top tier talent. RW, while not what he used to be, is still talented guard, for all his flaws. The jury is out, in regards to the rest of our young roster. But, I believe there's more there than people realize. And, I think Darvin is the right coach, to bring it all together. And, while Clippers have been rolling out red carpets, they still haven't won a chip, yet. Lakers are still the best mom and pop shop in the world. Period.

It’ll be interesting for sure. As a Bron fan, I hope he has the best possible team around him, and that requires Irving on the roster since he’s a viable target. You might have to give up both firsts here, Westbrook is just that bad. He’s productive but not impactful in the least. His offense has been falling apart for years now, and his defense is nonexistent. You’ll never win with him, his style of play is anathema to winning a chip, which is all LeBron cares about, as he should at this stage in his career.

As I told the other Laker fan, Lakers lucked into LeBron wanting to go there and bring in AD for that one chip. It’s not happening again. Your best shot is trading what little farm you have to pry open the window again this year. It’ll be a barren landscape for a few years, but that’s the price you have to pay for a shot.

Honestly, I'm more inclined to not overpay on any deals, go into the season doing the best we can, with what we've got, and go from there. Looking back at the last Lakers championship team, we had no snipers, and a ragtag team, put together on the fly. But, with staunch defense, and timely offense, we won a title. Who's to say that can't happen, again? No more unlikely, than the first time it happened.

But, even if it doesn't, all I want is good, competitive basketball. And, if LeBron is dissatisfied, and decides not to extend, cool with me. Just means the Lakers get to restart, without further damaging their future by devaluing their picks, with LeBron potentially being on the last year of his contract (if no extension), and AD being under contract until 2024. Just my own thoughts.

[hoosierdaddy34]

Exactly. These 2 1st round picks mean nothing when that means a team has to take one of the worst starting point guards in the NBA. THT is trash. Kendrick Nunn is liablity. Anthony Davis is injury prone and at this point,I can't even see a team that would be willing to trade a role player for him. The Lakers couldn't even trade for a freaking injury prone Malcolm Brodgon in exchange for Russell Westbrook and a unprotected 2027 1st round pick because Pacers didn't think his awful contract was worth getting a future draft pick(which has a good chance of being inside the top 5-7). Even the Rockets asked for a unprotected 1st round pick for John Wall who hasn't played more than 41 games since 2017 and clearly isn't the same player anymore. What makes Lakers fans think they can somehow get Kyrie Irving and Joe Harris?

I also agree that the Nets need to wait untl the regular season before even considering trading Kyrie. I could see the Mavericks,the Heat(if they don't get Kevin Durant),the 76ers,the Timberwolves,or even the Clippers become interested in getting Kyrie and I'm very sure they would offer a much better trade package than the Lakers.

I have read this multiple times now and I need to push back against that argument that AD is an injury prone liability. AD has played 138 games over the past 3 years. Yes that is not a lot. But Durant has only played 90 games over the same time span. So why is it that people constantly mention AD s fragility but I doesn't seem to be an issue for Durant who actually has played way less games over the past three years. Not to mention that KD will turn 34 soon and AD is still only 29.

Kevin Durant is a far better player than Anthony Davis,which is why people can overlook his injury history.What would any team be gaining to trading anyone meaningful for a injury prone Anthony Davis,who isn't even the same player anymore? A rebuilding team has no use for AD. A team without draft picks(the Nets for example) has no use for AD. A borderline playoff team has no use for AD. A team that just one or two pieces away from contending has no use for AD.Neither does a Championship team. Due to his injury and him declining,his trade value is honsetly about as low as Russell Westbrook,which is why the Lakers aren't bothering trying to trade AD for assets becasue they know they won't be able due to no team wanting him.

Such a weird take, especially since the Ringer and their basketball writers just listed AD at the #12 most valuable player in the NBA.

But no, the Lakers aren’t trading AD because they know there is no path back to the finals without him at the top of his game. They literally just won a title with him 21 months ago.

That’s some strange AD hate you have going there.

[Pharmcat]

So nothing new today then, huh?

Is pelinka still at disneyworld? Someone needs to
Bring him back to the office to work the phones