***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

[gigantes]

Colin Sexton still out there. Maybe we can sign him to 1yr looks like he needs get his market value up. Sexton is a bucket

i'd love to buy low on him if it's possible. no idea what happened to his 3 ball this year but that 40-50 point game he dropped against us a couple years ago when Garland was injured is still etched in my mind.

Having moved out to the Lake area a few years back, the Cavs have been a fairly refreshing, local team to keep up with. Not just that they have Fro <3 and Caris, but also just the fascination of watching a young, evolving team without the kind of pressure the Nets are under.

That said, I'm not quite sure what the Cavs are doing with SexLand.
Seems like Garland is way more valuable than Sexton, but of course, both are so young.

Not saying Cam Johnson is as good as Sexton as a one-dimensional scorer who can't play defense, but if I'm the Nets, going for that kind of player, I'd rather dodge the huge contract.. for now.

[Packers+NetsWIN]

If it was up to me personally, I would try to package both KD and Kyrie to the Hornets for LaMelo, salaries to match, and picks. I think Jordan is the perfect kind of owner for the Nets to trade with as he would be willing to sell the farm to get household names that give the team star-power and sells tickets (when they are actually on the court ) And I'm sure Ball wouldn't mind coming to New York to increase his name brand in a bigger market.

Nets in: L. Ball, G. Hayward, M. Plumlee, T. Rozier, 1 future first rounder, 1 future first round pick swap

Hornets in: K. Irving, K. Durant

Salaries work on the ESPN trade machine. Nets get a potential future star in Ball and a lot of good depth with the other three guys to stay competitive. They also add to their draft pick collection to help make up for the ones the Rockets own. And since Charlotte has never been a hot spot for superstars or free agents - once KD and Irving implode again and demand to leave (I give it one, maybe two seasons at most), the hornets future picks will be valuable. The Hornets do it for the reasons I already mentioned and having a good starting lineup on paper (depending on bridges legal situation) with Irving, Oubre, KD, Bridges, and lottery pick Williams.

This lineup isn't winning a championship, but at least keeps the team competitive with some young building blocks. And guys like Rozier, Curry, and Harris can be flipped for additional assets at the trade deadline or next off-season.

Ball/Curry/Mills
Rozier/O'Neal/Cam/
Harris/Hayward/Duke
Simmons/Warren/Edwards
Claxton/Plumlee/Sharpe

I'm very high on LaMelo, watched a lot of Hornets games last year. He's like taller Steve Nash imo. We will be 50 win team looking at that roster. Not sure about PO, depending on a match ups.

Agree completely. LaMelo and Simmons on the fast break would be a nightmare for opposing teams to deal with as well.

[MrDollarBills]

Jordan would be out of his mind to trade LaMelo ball for KD and Kyrie.

[JoseRizal]

It's the first time MJ got the draft right, I don't think he's gonna waste it for a chance to manage an uber sensitive KD and his remaining prime years.

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[NetsWorld]

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Nets want a third team involved, and Nets want AD but the Lakers are flat out lying and trying to manipulate stuff in their favor. Won't work and Marks knows it. It's either you give the Nets AD, which no one is talking about, or get a third team, ala the Pacers, and get the Nets Hield, Turner, Picks and Westbrook. Love how the media distorts stuff.

[GTR11]

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[Netaman]

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that's an interesting Toronto deal I haven't seen come up yet. I'd be game for that and I would have to think they'd feel a lot more comfortable going for a championship with OG, Siakam, and FVV still on the roster.

Simmons / Patty
Curry / GTJ
O'Neale / Harris / Warren
Barnes / Thad / Edwards
Claxton / Prescious / Sharpe

obviously you hope there's a follow-up move flipping westbrook elsewhere but that's a real interesting foundation. I still like the idea of flipping Westbrook for Conley + filler. Just seems like the perfect leader/ball handler to combo with Simmons for a couple years.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=28697b8d
(not sure what if anything would be needed to balance this out, Cam Thomas or a 1st to Utah?)

[IceManBK1]

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4 team trade b/w Pacers, Nets and Jazz and Suns

Nets In: Mitchell, Turner and 2 first via Jazz
Out: Durant, Seth Curry

Pacers In: Deandre Ayton(sign and trade), Jordan Clarkson, Seth Curry
Out: Turner, Hield

Jazz In: Hield, Mikal Bridges
Out: Mitchell, JC

Suns In: Durant
Out: Ayton, Bridges

Nets find no taker for Irving, he stays...and he's content with the above trade.

Irving
Mitchell
Joe Harris
Simmons
Turner

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4 team trade b/w Pacers, Nets and Jazz and Suns

Nets In: Mitchell, Turner and 2 first via Jazz
Out: Durant, Seth Curry

Pacers In: Deandre Ayton(sign and trade), Jordan Clarkson, Seth Curry
Out: Turner, Hield

Jazz In: Hield, Mikal Bridges
Out: Mitchell, JC

Suns In: Durant
Out: Ayton, Bridges

Nets find no taker for Irving, he stays...and he's content with the above trade.

Irving
Mitchell
Joe Harris
Simmons
Turner

Nets can't have Simmons and Mitchell on the same team.

[IceManBK1]

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4 team trade b/w Pacers, Nets and Jazz and Suns

Nets In: Mitchell, Turner and 2 first via Jazz
Out: Durant, Seth Curry

Pacers In: Deandre Ayton(sign and trade), Jordan Clarkson, Seth Curry
Out: Turner, Hield

Jazz In: Hield, Mikal Bridges
Out: Mitchell, JC

Suns In: Durant
Out: Ayton, Bridges

Nets find no taker for Irving, he stays...and he's content with the above trade.

Irving
Mitchell
Joe Harris
Simmons
Turner

Nets can't have Simmons and Mitchell on the same team.

trade Simmons to other teams for more assets.

[gigantes]

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Nets want a third team involved, and Nets want AD but the Lakers are flat out lying and trying to manipulate stuff in their favor. Won't work and Marks knows it. It's either you give the Nets AD, which no one is talking about, or get a third team, ala the Pacers, and get the Nets Hield, Turner, Picks and Westbrook. Love how the media distorts stuff.

You're saying the Kyrie & KD combo for AD and picks, right?

Okay, for AD and two #1's it makes (limited) sense for the Lakers, but for the Nets, getting that and some filler material isn't good IMO. Unibrow's not a lead scorer, is a glass cannon, and isn't a young guy anymore. Why the hayell would the Nets want him at this juncture, other than as a trade asset?

Also, why would the Pacers give up all that shizzle. For who, or for what..?

[IceManBK1]

How about Simmons and a 1st for Donovan Mitchell straight up? Irving and Durant would be impressed and revoke their trade demands. Trade Claxton and Seth Curry and 2nd for Myles Turner.

Irving
Mitchell
J Harris
Durant
Turner

[3pt_chucker]

How about Simmons and a 1st for Donovan Mitchell straight up? Irving and Durant would be impressed and revoke their trade demands. Trade Claxton and Seth Curry and 2nd for Myles Turner.

Irving
Mitchell
J Harris
Durant
Turner

Irving - Mitchell backcourt plays zero defense and I'm not sure the offense makes up for it.

Rather just keep Ben tbh. Also not sure the roster is the reason KD wants to leave.

[Netaman]

to get Mitchell it's going to take more picks than they currently have, and probably most of the picks they'd get back in a KD trade.

I don't think it's impossible but it would be a big complicated deal with a ton of moving pieces.

I actually think it would be smart of Ainge to just take Simmons and 3 or 4 FRPs for Mitchell because Simmons is so undervalued if he re-ignites him he could be another 3-5 FRPs in the future and he'd have 3 years of control to get that done.

with Simmons showing up at the summer league games id be a little surprised if the nets move him because i think his value is just zero right now. but i guess not shocked.

[JoseRizal]

Simmons would've been ideal playing beside Mitchell as he masks Donovan's deficiency in D.

Having said this, I don't think it's worth giving up Ben for a crack at Spida. Simmons' value is at an all time low, and know that he's the only holdover (aside from Seth) from the Harden trade wherein we sacrificed our future picks. Trading him now would totally be a short-sighted move. There's no way you can recover even half the value of what we gave up. Best to let Ben play to at least rehabilitate his value.

Besides, I don't think Mitchell is the type of player I would build my team around. He's at best, the 2nd best player on a contending team.

I know that this rookie extension rule sucks and I'm not surprised that we're getting the shorter end of the stick (life of a Nets fan), but I'm confident that Marks will be more cerebral in making decisions for this franchise, knowing that the KD/Ky era is an utter failure.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Nets have no incentive to trade Kyrie until the KD situation is resolved. Even if Lakers include both picks.

I still remain convinced that Durant has no interest in playing in Canada and will revolt if it is seriously discussed. He only wants to be in Phoenix and possibly Miami.

Nets need to hold firm.

[TheNetsFan]

If fully healthy and in the right mindset, Simmons>Mitchell. Let the Knicks sell the farm for an all 6'1" backcourt. What irks me is wasting the big TPE and a pick on Royce, when the TPE and a couple picks might have been able to get RJ Barrett from Utah after a Mitchell trade.

[Tha King]

If this whole thing essentially ends up as KD and Simmons for Mitchell....

Would make no sense.

Since KD has gotten here, how many trades has Marks gotten right?

[Shark]

How about Simmons and a 1st for Donovan Mitchell straight up? Irving and Durant would be impressed and revoke their trade demands. Trade Claxton and Seth Curry and 2nd for Myles Turner.

Irving
Mitchell
J Harris
Durant
Turner

Irving - Mitchell backcourt plays zero defense and I'm not sure the offense makes up for it.

Rather just keep Ben tbh. Also not sure the roster is the reason KD wants to leave.

Also too many ball dominant players that don't really create for others on a consistent basis. Unless you'd want KD playing as a point forward and racking up a ton of turnovers. We'd still have to move one of Kyrie or KD and chances are the other isn't going to stay if they're traded so... yeah. I like Mitchell, but he just doesn't make enough sense for us as we are.