Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles?

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Re: Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles? 

Post#61 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:16 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:Fans don't care about owners, Celtics have 17 championships. Arguments otherwise by Lakers fans reinforce the argument that Minesota Laker championships don't count.

But If a new expansion team not named Supersonics shows up in Seattle and wins a championship do you count the Seattle team as having 1 or 2 championships. The City would have 2 championships but the team would have one Championship.



The NBA counts the Sonics championship for OKC.

And all the old Sonics players as franchise “hall of famers”?

https://www.nba.com/team/1610612760

So what are you talking about?

Who cares what the NBA says.
What matters is what feels right to fans. Sonics have nothing to do with the Oklahoma Thunder.
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Re: Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles? 

Post#62 » by FrobeBryant » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:26 am

Whatever makes Celtics fans sleep better. If we’re playing that game..how about we don’t count the 11 rings they won when there was 6 teams in the league? Y’all are counting rings from the early 50s but don’t wanna count rings owned by the Lakers franchise cause they moved. What a pathetic attempt to discount the 17 Lakers championships.
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Re: Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles? 

Post#63 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:26 am

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:Fans don't care about owners, Celtics have 17 championships. Arguments otherwise by Lakers fans reinforce the argument that Minesota Laker championships don't count.

But If a new expansion team not named Supersonics shows up in Seattle and wins a championship do you count the Seattle team as having 1 or 2 championships. The City would have 2 championships but the team would have one Championship.



The NBA counts the Sonics championship for OKC.

And all the old Sonics players as franchise “hall of famers”?

https://www.nba.com/team/1610612760

So what are you talking about?

Who cares what the NBA says.
What matters is what feels right to fans. Sonics have nothing to do with the Oklahoma Thunder.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

There it is. Feelings are more important than what legitimately happened. The entire Boston fans argument couldn’t be anymore plain.

The NBA has been very consistent, the championships and team history follow the linear franchise when they move.

The exception to this rule was granted to the Celtics so their fans didn’t have a heart attack. But the Buffalo Braves are now in Boston, and the old Celtics are now in LA with the Clippers owned by Steve Ballmer. Abd this has been backed up by the NBAs own Russ Granik who oversaw the transaction. And this was the one time the NBA chose not to follow how they have traditionally handled these things from a historic perspective.
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Re: Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles? 

Post#64 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:54 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:

The NBA counts the Sonics championship for OKC.

And all the old Sonics players as franchise “hall of famers”?

https://www.nba.com/team/1610612760

So what are you talking about?

Who cares what the NBA says.
What matters is what feels right to fans. Sonics have nothing to do with the Oklahoma Thunder.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

There it is. Feelings are more important than what legitimately happened. The entire Boston fans argument couldn’t be anymore plain.

The NBA has been very consistent, the championships and team history follow the linear franchise when they move.

The exception to this rule was granted to the Celtics so their fans didn’t have a heart attack. But the Buffalo Braves are now in Boston, and the old Celtics are now in LA with the Clippers owned by Steve Ballmer. Abd this has been backed up by the NBAs own Russ Granik who oversaw the transaction. And this was the one time the NBA chose not to follow how they have traditionally handled these things from a historic perspective.

Damn, that is a stupid argument for a stupid topic.
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Re: Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles? 

Post#65 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:02 pm

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:Who cares what the NBA says.
What matters is what feels right to fans. Sonics have nothing to do with the Oklahoma Thunder.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

There it is. Feelings are more important than what legitimately happened. The entire Boston fans argument couldn’t be anymore plain.

The NBA has been very consistent, the championships and team history follow the linear franchise when they move.

The exception to this rule was granted to the Celtics so their fans didn’t have a heart attack. But the Buffalo Braves are now in Boston, and the old Celtics are now in LA with the Clippers owned by Steve Ballmer. Abd this has been backed up by the NBAs own Russ Granik who oversaw the transaction. And this was the one time the NBA chose not to follow how they have traditionally handled these things from a historic perspective.

Damn, that is a stupid argument for a stupid topic.


So you decided to come in late and make the stupidest comment? :lol:
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Re: Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles? 

Post#66 » by Huskies1947 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:48 pm

How many Lakes are around LA? I never understood why the NBA did not allow Franchises to change their names after relocating - The only grizzlies in Memphis are the Crack addicts that live there. Utah has zero Jazz culture etc...
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Post#67 » by Ballerhogger » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:50 pm

We would take up all banner space . Clippers gotta have spot for the division titles . , LA kings have spot as well . .
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Re: Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles? 

Post#68 » by Ballerhogger » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:51 pm

Huskies1947 wrote:How many Lakes are around LA? I never understood why the NBA did not allow Franchises to change their names after relocating - The only grizzlies in Memphis are the Crack addicts that live there. Utah has zero Jazz culture etc...

We have huge lake called the Pacific Ocean ! :lol:
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Re: Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles? 

Post#69 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:06 pm

Huskies1947 wrote:How many Lakes are around LA? I never understood why the NBA did not allow Franchises to change their names after relocating - The only grizzlies in Memphis are the Crack addicts that live there. Utah has zero Jazz culture etc...




I did not know teams were not allowed to change their names. Lakers was a strange name even for Minnesota which has lakes.
By the time the Lakers moved to Los Angeles they had not won for 5 years. I think they should have changed their name to the stars.
Los Angeles stars would have sounded good. Hollywood and before the pollution got too bad the dry cloudless Los Angeles area probably would have been a good place for veiwing the stars in the night sky.


Utah may be the least Jazzy state in the USA. Utah was not allowed to get a new name?

What about Hornets, Bobcats, Charlotte, New Orleans. NBA changed their rules.
NBA says it tranferred the old Charlotte Hornets records to the New Charlotte Hornets.
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Re: Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles? 

Post#70 » by Huskies1947 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:24 pm

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Huskies1947 wrote:How many Lakes are around LA? I never understood why the NBA did not allow Franchises to change their names after relocating - The only grizzlies in Memphis are the Crack addicts that live there. Utah has zero Jazz culture etc...




I did not know teams were not allowed to change their names. Lakers was a strange name even for Minnesota which has lakes.
By the time the Lakers moved to Los Angeles they had not won for 5 years. I think they should have changed their name to the stars.
Los Angeles stars would have sounded good. Hollywood and before the pollution got too bad the dry cloudless Los Angeles area probably would have been a good place for veiwing the stars in the night sky.


Utah may be the least Jazzy state in the USA. Utah was not allowed to get a new name?

What about Hornets, Bobcats, Charlotte, New Orleans. NBA changed their rules.
NBA says it tranferred the old Charlotte Hornets records to the New Charlotte Hornets.


From what I remember reading in the past the NBA ran their business similar to franchising in other industries, the location changes but the franchise name stays the same and the history goes with it as long with the brand equity. This was until the Sonics moved to OKC and the NBA allowed them to change their name. Charlotte wanted their old name back and got it. At this point I think even the Raptors were considering a name change to the Huskies (Tim Lieweke I think wanted to pull the trigger on it) which was the original NBA Toronto team's name back in the 1946 but ownership refused.

I guess teams like Utah would not want to change their name at this point - Memphis I don't know why they wouldn't do it, but they should have never had the team to begin with (which is another argument on its own).
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Re: Why don't the lakers have individual banners for the Minneapolis Lakers Titles? 

Post#71 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:47 pm

Huskies1947 wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Huskies1947 wrote:How many Lakes are around LA? I never understood why the NBA did not allow Franchises to change their names after relocating - The only grizzlies in Memphis are the Crack addicts that live there. Utah has zero Jazz culture etc...




I did not know teams were not allowed to change their names. Lakers was a strange name even for Minnesota which has lakes.
By the time the Lakers moved to Los Angeles they had not won for 5 years. I think they should have changed their name to the stars.
Los Angeles stars would have sounded good. Hollywood and before the pollution got too bad the dry cloudless Los Angeles area probably would have been a good place for veiwing the stars in the night sky.


Utah may be the least Jazzy state in the USA. Utah was not allowed to get a new name?

What about Hornets, Bobcats, Charlotte, New Orleans. NBA changed their rules.
NBA says it tranferred the old Charlotte Hornets records to the New Charlotte Hornets.


From what I remember reading in the past the NBA ran their business similar to franchising in other industries, the location changes but the franchise name stays the same and the history goes with it as long with the brand equity. This was until the Sonics moved to OKC and the NBA allowed them to change their name. Charlotte wanted their old name back and got it. At this point I think even the Raptors were considering a name change to the Huskies (Tim Lieweke I think wanted to pull the trigger on it) which was the original NBA Toronto team's name back in the 1946 but ownership refused.

I guess teams like Utah would not want to change their name at this point - Memphis I don't know why they wouldn't do it, but they should have never had the team to begin with (which is another argument on its own).


Buffalow Braves become the San Diego Clippers then the owners of Celtics nd Clippers exchange franchises with money and players changing to compensate for the Celtics franchise being more valuable. Celtics fans hated the trade tied to the franchise exchange and Celtics fans thought that trade unfairly favored the Clippers and set back the Celtics rebuild. In retrospect the Celtics probably won that trade because Nate Archibald was able to overcome an injury that nobody thought he could come back from and Kermit Washington stopped being a factor.

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