NBA Summer League 2022

[God Squad]

Chet hasn’t been all that impressive since making his summer league debut and that was against tacko fall.

This draft isn't impressive at all.

I dont know, is the top of this draft really underperforming in SL that much compared to last year's class in SL?

Kinda yeah. Personally I think Chet has had one great game with the rest being meh to okay. Jabari has had one good game and Paolo got shut down for SL, although he looked the part (#1 pick) I question his ceiling. I'll reserve judgement on Ivey/Daniels since they got hurt. Keegan has looked the most consistent scoring the ball, but I question other aspects of his game.

I agree last year was mixed bag for Green/Cade in particular. But even in SL they showed some advanced shot creation/making/playmaking (Green vs Cade SL game). Scottie who was already touted for defense showed his offense was much farther along than people realized. Suggs was looking like an absolute unit defensively at the guard position, while throwing down some dunks to boot.
Mobley regardless of the slow start still flashed everything that people loved about him from the handle/shot/defense/timing. Then the rest of the class just looks solid from a depth point of view with a majority of teams getting a solid rotational piece.

I'm not giving up on or chitting on 22'. I just didn't love it as much months ago, and pretty much feel the same way now.

[Duke4life831]

This draft isn't impressive at all.

I dont know, is the top of this draft really underperforming in SL that much compared to last year's class in SL?

Kinda yeah. Personally I think Chet has had one great game with the rest being meh to okay. Jabari has had one good game and Paolo got shut down for SL, although he looked the part (#1 pick) I question his ceiling. I'll reserve judgement on Ivey/Daniels since they got hurt. Keegan has looked the most consistent scoring the ball, but I question other aspects of his game.

I agree last year was mixed bag for Green/Cade in particular. But even in SL they showed some advanced shot creation/making/playmaking (Green vs Cade SL game). Scottie who was already touted for defense showed his offense was much farther along than people realized. Suggs was looking like an absolute unit defensively at the guard position, while throwing down some dunks to boot.
Mobley regardless of the slow start still flashed everything that people loved about him from the handle/shot/defense/timing. Then the rest of the class just looks solid from a depth point of view with a majority of teams getting a solid rotational piece.

I'm not giving up on or chitting on 22'. I just didn't love it as much months ago, and pretty much feel the same way now.

I dont know, I feel like this is a little bit of revisionist history though. Did Mobley really flash anything that Chet hasnt in the SL? I remember after SL ended people were giving CLE a ton of crap for picking Mobley. People were lining up to call him a bust at this time last year. Hell it took over half of the season for people to stop calling Jalen Green a bust.

Im not sure anyone from last year's class looked any better than what we saw from Paolo this year. Keegan Murray has been automatic buckets all SL at a super high and efficient pace. No one for their life of them could stay in front of Ivey until he twisted his ankle.

Dont get me wrong, I liked last year's class better than this one prior to both of them going into SL. But I honestly dont see too much of a difference from either class, especially not enough of a difference to say I was excited by one and not so much the other one.

Plus in general I still dont think we can take anything at all from SL except for just physical stature of these guys. Way too long of lists of guys who flat out looked horrible in the SL to then become elite players and on the flip side, guys who looked flat out unstoppable in SL to then do nothing in their careers.

[God Squad]

I dont know, is the top of this draft really underperforming in SL that much compared to last year's class in SL?

Kinda yeah. Personally I think Chet has had one great game with the rest being meh to okay. Jabari has had one good game and Paolo got shut down for SL, although he looked the part (#1 pick) I question his ceiling. I'll reserve judgement on Ivey/Daniels since they got hurt. Keegan has looked the most consistent scoring the ball, but I question other aspects of his game.

I agree last year was mixed bag for Green/Cade in particular. But even in SL they showed some advanced shot creation/making/playmaking (Green vs Cade SL game). Scottie who was already touted for defense showed his offense was much farther along than people realized. Suggs was looking like an absolute unit defensively at the guard position, while throwing down some dunks to boot.
Mobley regardless of the slow start still flashed everything that people loved about him from the handle/shot/defense/timing. Then the rest of the class just looks solid from a depth point of view with a majority of teams getting a solid rotational piece.

I'm not giving up on or chitting on 22'. I just didn't love it as much months ago, and pretty much feel the same way now.

I dont know, I feel like this is a little bit of revisionist history though. Did Mobley really flash anything that Chet hasnt in the SL? I remember after SL ended people were giving CLE a ton of crap for picking Mobley. People were lining up to call him a bust at this time last year. Hell it took over half of the season for people to stop calling Jalen Green a bust.

Im not sure anyone from last year's class looked any better than what we saw from Paolo this year. Keegan Murray has been automatic buckets all SL at a super high and efficient pace. No one for their life of them could stay in front of Ivey until he twisted his ankle.

Dont get me wrong, I liked last year's class better than this one prior to both of them going into SL. But I honestly dont see too much of a difference from either class, especially not enough of a difference to say I was excited by one and not so much the other one.

Plus in general I still dont think we can take anything at all from SL except for just physical stature of these guys. Way too long of lists of guys who flat out looked horrible in the SL to then become elite players and on the flip side, guys who looked flat out unstoppable in SL to then do nothing in their careers.

100% agree. I honestly think the "bust" talks are from fans looking to prop their guy up, or verify their pre-draft analysis. When I watch SL I look at what I considered weakness at the college level and see if they've improved or if its even more glaring. For example Smiths handle and Chets frame/physicality are still glaring issues to me after SL.

[Mephariel]

Love the consistent offense from Murray:

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[God Squad]

Checking the boxscore it looks like Ousmane Deing broke out of his funk.

[Ruma85]

I really hope reed,bassey,springer and joe get minutes this upcoming season for the sixers i like what i’m seeing.

[xBulletproof]

I'm looking around and everyone is talking about Keegan Murray, and he's putting up numbers, but he's also playing 35 minutes per game.

Mathurin has quietly put up 19.3 PPG ..... in only 22.4 minutes per. On 49-38-77 shooting. He has his warts and I can still see the flaws through the success, but he looks good, for whatever that's worth in SL.

[PlatinumState]

Could it be Sacramento drafted good?

[rand]

Chet hasn’t been all that impressive since making his summer league debut and that was against tacko fall.

This draft isn't impressive at all.

Not true at all.

Banchero showed out, Keegan is killing it, Ivey got hurt but was impressive in that short stint + game earlier, Chet does a bit of everything, Eason looks like a steal, even Jabari looked solid last game on offense and has been great on defense.

Agree with everything. Plus Mathurin looks good too. Should be at least a few all-stars in this draft.

Banchero, Chet and Smith may have higher ceilings but the most likely all-star in this draft to me is Keegan Murray. He'll average 20 on fair efficiency as a rookie creating a decent amount of his own scoring, do some good things on defense and make some plays too. I think Sacramento hit a home run with Murray, he fits so perfectly between Fox and Sabonis. I'm happy for Kings fans, they have the most viable team to root for in a very long time.

[SOUL]

This draft isn't impressive at all.

Not true at all.

Banchero showed out, Keegan is killing it, Ivey got hurt but was impressive in that short stint + game earlier, Chet does a bit of everything, Eason looks like a steal, even Jabari looked solid last game on offense and has been great on defense.

Agree with everything. Plus Mathurin looks good too. Should be at least a few all-stars in this draft.

Banchero, Chet and Smith may have higher ceilings but the most likely all-star in this draft to me is Keegan Murray. He'll average 20 on fair efficiency as a rookie creating a decent amount of his own scoring and do some good things on defense and making plays too. I think Sacramento hit a home run with Murray and he fits so perfectly between Fox and Sabonis. I'm happy for Kings fans, they have the most viable team to root for in a very long time.

Yeah I totally forgot about Mathurin, I really liked him before the draft too. I actually think there's a lot of interesting players this year even if it may not be as star power-y as last year. Even guys like Sochan and Daniels I have high hopes on too.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Checking the boxscore it looks like Ousmane Deing broke out of his funk.

He looked pretty smooth in the other games but his shot just was not falling. I feel good about the kid. He controls the ball well, can get into the lane and finish, and has a good looking shot. When he's playing under control his size is a real bonus, especially on defense. One thing about him is that he is also playing American basketball against different competition for the first time, which I imagine takes some adjustment.

[MoneyTalks41890]

I think the Thunder guys have looked good, but it is only summer league. Chet flashed the ability to bring the ball up the court and set the offense off a rebound, which is kind of nuts. He also showed some good passing ability when he's doubled, with some kind of insane passes. He's obviously going to get pushed around a bit, but his toughness helps there. And he will be one of the league's best shot blockers from day one, particularly help-side.

He ended up averaging 12 pts/ 7.7 boards /2.2 assist /2.2 steals /2 blocks on 46/42/88

Again it's against SL competition, but I like what I saw.

Dieng and Jaylin looked pretty good. Dieng especially has some special traits. Jaylin is a tough role player who will I think form a solid bench duo down low with JRE long term.

I really like how Jalen Williams looked. Using his 7ft+ wingspan to defend guys like Jabari, throwing down some dunks, driving through guys. He's big and strong and should be an asset on the wing, with I think some similar traits to SGA, if a little more strength than polish right now.

Poku is lost.

[LightTheBeam]

Lots of similarities between last 2 drafts.

Banchero and Cade - 2 guys who look like they can carry an offense.

Chet and Mobley - 2 elite defensive bigs

Mathurin and Green - 2 offense first dynamic 2gs

Murray and Barnes - 2 forwards who got "reached on" over dynamic guards. and like Barnes, Murray may prove to be worth it.

Suggs and Ivey - the 2 dynamic guards who were locks for top 4 and both fell to 5.

Where last year shined was guys like Kuminga, Wagner, Williams really proving their worth. And then a deep draft with guys like Ayo, herb jones, Bones, making immediate impacts.

Let's give this class some time.

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[Roger Murdock]

Really like what I’m seeing from Ochai

[yoyoboy]

Yeah Ochai should be able to plug in and help immediately. Didn’t like the pick at all originally but if this shooting is real, I’ll come around to it. I like how he’s hitting threes off screens and on the move.

[Black Jack]

Paolo looks to me like he will be a worthy #1 and someone you can build a contender around. I like skills guys over athletes in today's game, you just need to be good enough an athlete and have size. Luka's success shows that people overrate athleticism unless it's literally all time great athleticism ie Giannis / Zion types.

And Chet is a unicorn, I just think supertall thin guys have to prove they can stay healthy. Not being forced to play inside helps. He is almost like a taller Durant.

[Bornstellar]

I really hope Spurs don't keep Blake Wesley in Austin all season. He looks like he has some really nice upside

[bisme37]

Celtics summer league team has been a lot of fun and really good considering there aren't really any high picks on the team.

Our 2nd rounder JD Davison was a killer today. 28pts on 9 of 14 from the field, 5 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 steals and a block.

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[Dan Z]

Love the consistent offense from Murray:

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In another thread someone suggested the Kings put Murray in a trade for Donovan Mitchell. I think that would be a bad move...one that goes backwards not forwards.

[Dan Z]

Why is AJ Griffin not playing? Is he hurt?