Keegan Murray

[HotelVitale]

Keegan is not refined as a face up iso player, but it’s still a lot easier to envision him developing it as compared to Jabari. He understands spacing and has nice awareness — that hesitation as Paolo went flying by before nailing the tying jumper was really nice.

are we already forgetting that Keegan is 22?

He's 21, played two years in college and was on the older end for his draft class (birthday is August 19). People keep talking like he's Duarte or something--late to college, played 4 years, transferred twice, etc--when he's just a slightly older than normal sophomore class guy. When I was in college there were plenty of freshman who were his age and had bdays in Aug/Sept. Not saying his age isn't a factor--especially compared to the true one-and-dones--but he's not that old, and he's definitely on a big upward trajectory.

Freshman year: 19 at start of camp, 20 for regular season
Sophomore: 20 at start, 21 for regular season
NBA Rookie: 21 at start, 22 for regular season

[Sactowndog]

Interesting, but I'll stick with prospect's experience vs his competition on the court. That allows for grading guys like Hakeem and Embiid on a curve for coming to the game late. IMO growth spurts should result in immediate results. If you grow 6 inches at age 17, the results in your game should be immediate judging by past prospects.

Yeah you clearly never had a 6” growth spurt. Your immediate concern is not tripping over a crack in the ground as you have no idea where your feet are.

You hold even or even go back for a year as you figure out your new body.

The hall of fame NBA players that had a late growth spurt only benefitted from it maintaining the movement skills they already had.

Yeah not saying they don’t have benefits but they are not immediate. They have to adjust to their bodies first.

[clyde21]

Keegan is not refined as a face up iso player, but it’s still a lot easier to envision him developing it as compared to Jabari. He understands spacing and has nice awareness — that hesitation as Paolo went flying by before nailing the tying jumper was really nice.

are we already forgetting that Keegan is 22?

He's 21, played two years in college and was on the older end for his draft class (birthday is August 19). People keep talking like he's Duarte or something--late to college, played 4 years, transferred twice, etc--when he's just a slightly older than normal sophomore class guy. When I was in college there were plenty of freshman who were his age and had bdays in Aug/Sept. Not saying his age isn't a factor--especially compared to the true one-and-dones--but he's not that old, and he's definitely on a big upward trajectory.

Freshman year: 19 at start of camp, 20 for regular season
Sophomore: 20 at start, 21 for regular season
NBA Rookie: 21 at start, 22 for regular season

are yall literally fighting me over a month? hell be 22 in a month and will be well into 22 when his rookie season starts. he's not 'a slightly older sophomore' he's like a younger senior.

wtf is going on here?

[Adg1987]

22 or not, he is still a top notch prospect.

[grpistons]

are we already forgetting that Keegan is 22?

He's 21, played two years in college and was on the older end for his draft class (birthday is August 19). People keep talking like he's Duarte or something--late to college, played 4 years, transferred twice, etc--when he's just a slightly older than normal sophomore class guy. When I was in college there were plenty of freshman who were his age and had bdays in Aug/Sept. Not saying his age isn't a factor--especially compared to the true one-and-dones--but he's not that old, and he's definitely on a big upward trajectory.

Freshman year: 19 at start of camp, 20 for regular season
Sophomore: 20 at start, 21 for regular season
NBA Rookie: 21 at start, 22 for regular season

are yall literally fighting me over a month? hell be 22 in a month and will be well into 22 when his rookie season starts. he's not 'a slightly older sophomore' he's like a younger senior.

wtf is going on here?

I was 21 still when I graduated college. He's basically senior-aged.
I think he will have a fine career though.

[Big J]

22 or not, he is still a top notch prospect.

The Hall of Fame is littered with guys who were drafted at 22. This is a complete non issue.

[clyde21]

22 or not, he is still a top notch prospect.

nobody is saying he's not. this is about Murray being "more refined"...again because he's much older than the rest of the top picks.

i suggest u guys actually read the discussion before chiming in, but just a suggestion.

[Adg1987]

22 or not, he is still a top notch prospect.

nobody is saying he's not. this is about Murray being "more refined"...again because he's much older than the rest of the top picks.

i suggest u guys actually read the discussion before chiming in, but just a suggestion.

easy brother, I was not shading you.

There has been a lot of people saying his potential is less because he is 22 years old. I disagree. I have made multiple comments in this thread before your little petty argument start

[Big J]

22 or not, he is still a top notch prospect.

nobody is saying he's not. this is about Murray being "more refined"...again because he's much older than the rest of the top picks.

i suggest u guys actually read the discussion before chiming in, but just a suggestion.

easy brother, I was not shading you.

There has been a lot of people saying his potential is less because he is 22 years old. I disagree. I have made multiple comments in this thread before your little petty argument start

Don’t mind him. He’s incredibly thin skinned and takes any kind of disagreement personally.

[HotelVitale]

He's 21, played two years in college and was on the older end for his draft class (birthday is August 19). People keep talking like he's Duarte or something--late to college, played 4 years, transferred twice, etc--when he's just a slightly older than normal sophomore class guy. When I was in college there were plenty of freshman who were his age and had bdays in Aug/Sept. Not saying his age isn't a factor--especially compared to the true one-and-dones--but he's not that old, and he's definitely on a big upward trajectory.

Freshman year: 19 at start of camp, 20 for regular season
Sophomore: 20 at start, 21 for regular season
NBA Rookie: 21 at start, 22 for regular season

are yall literally fighting me over a month? hell be 22 in a month and will be well into 22 when his rookie season starts. he's not 'a slightly older sophomore' he's like a younger senior. wtf is going on here?

I was 21 still when I graduated college. He's basically senior-aged. I think he will have a fine career though.

Alright, can we just say he'd be like a young-ish junior coming out and call it a day? My whole point is that he's not a super old prospect, and that it is important that this was his first year of big minutes against high-level competition. Not important enough that it negates his being older than one-and-dones, but it is relevant.

[clyde21]

are yall literally fighting me over a month? hell be 22 in a month and will be well into 22 when his rookie season starts. he's not 'a slightly older sophomore' he's like a younger senior. wtf is going on here?

I was 21 still when I graduated college. He's basically senior-aged. I think he will have a fine career though.

Alright, can we just say he'd be like a young-ish junior coming out and call it a day? My whole point is that he's not a super old prospect, and that it is important that this was his first year of big minutes against high-level competition. Not important enough that it negates his being older than one-and-dones, but it is relevant.

he's not a youngish jr, what are you talking about? he's 22, that's senior aged.

he's 3 whole years older than Jabari Smith, for example.

[grpistons]

are yall literally fighting me over a month? hell be 22 in a month and will be well into 22 when his rookie season starts. he's not 'a slightly older sophomore' he's like a younger senior. wtf is going on here?

I was 21 still when I graduated college. He's basically senior-aged. I think he will have a fine career though.

Alright, can we just say he'd be like a young-ish junior coming out and call it a day? My whole point is that he's not a super old prospect, and that it is important that this was his first year of big minutes against high-level competition. Not important enough that it negates his being older than one-and-dones, but it is relevant.

No I completely disagree. He's not a youngish junior. For example, I was 20 years old my entire Junior year in college. He'll be older than some seniors.

[Big J]

29,7,2 & 4. Wow

[tmorgan]

I especially like that Keegan’s just out there ballin every game. He’s just doin light work.

[SeattleJazzFan]

I especially like that Keegan’s just out there ballin every game. He’s just doin light work.

yup. ho hum. the great ones just play their game regardless of level. they just do what they do and defenses are helpless to do anything about it.

keegan murray being keegan murray.

[CO_hawk]

Kid still looks baby faced. Still have a lot of growth in him yet.

Some of these rookies look 40 years old... Peak physically.

[Big J]

Kid still looks baby faced. Still have a lot of growth in him yet.

Some of these rookies look 40 years old... Peak physically.

This is a great point. One kids 22 ain’t the same as another kids 22.

[Adg1987]

Murray was talking about practice and how he goes 100% all the time which makes the games feel slower to him. You can really see his poise. It was the first time I felt like the Kings made the right decision taking him over Ivey. Ivey still might become the better player but Murray does seem like the perfect pick

[Big J]

Murray was talking about practice and how he goes 100% all the time which makes the games feel slower to him. You can really see his poise. It was the first time I felt like the Kings made the right decision taking him over Ivey. Ivey still might become the better player but Murray does seem like the perfect pick

Lotta people think that you have to be 19 coming in or you have a low ceiling, but how old was Curry when he was a rook? Dude's one of the GOATs now.

[SelfishPlayer]

Murray was talking about practice and how he goes 100% all the time which makes the games feel slower to him. You can really see his poise. It was the first time I felt like the Kings made the right decision taking him over Ivey. Ivey still might become the better player but Murray does seem like the perfect pick

Lotta people think that you have to be 19 coming in or you have a low ceiling, but how old was Curry when he was a rook? Dude's one of the GOATs now.

22 year old rookies have been considered old for over 20 years.