Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3
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Just walk away, Leon. Nothing good will come of this.
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Call Darrell Walker, tell him to kick ainge’s a second time.
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Kampuchea wrote:8516knicks wrote:mpharris36 wrote:you need multiple ball handlers and shot creators to work in the NBA. No team wins with just one guys doing everything.
What's the last team with two starting 6'1" guards who won a championship? played in a final series? Made the playoffs? NOT WORTH IT. Keep our 2023 picks and Obi and Grimes and roll the dice. We might get a Hailburton or D. Mitchell at 10 or so, we're DUE. And even if we don't DM isn't going to get us past the 2nd round.![]()
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The Utah Jazz were a pretty good team with two 6’1” guards
How quickly this is lost on peeps
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F*ck Danny Ainge. Tree Rollins should not have stopped at just biting his finger, but should have entirely eaten that sneaky rat.
Should've given him the Kermit Washington on Rudy T treatment
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Shams ruined the entire vibe. He made it seem like the trade was close to being finalized to now saying could take all off-season.
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aq_ua wrote:Just walk away, Leon. Nothing good will come of this.
you dont walk away from a top 25 player available.
sit down and do the math.
you have to get to the 40th best player in the NBA before you get to guys that can be traded for.
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KnixinSix wrote:Kampuchea wrote:8516knicks wrote:
What's the last team with two starting 6'1" guards who won a championship? played in a final series? Made the playoffs? NOT WORTH IT. Keep our 2023 picks and Obi and Grimes and roll the dice. We might get a Hailburton or D. Mitchell at 10 or so, we're DUE. And even if we don't DM isn't going to get us past the 2nd round.![]()
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The Utah Jazz were a pretty good team with two 6’1” guards
How quickly this is lost on peeps
When did Utah win the Championship? I missed it. when did they play in the finals? Oh, never???? Yeah, lets be like them. They wer so good they just decided to DISMANTLE their team!!!
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Unless we are trading for Giannis that isn't happening. Even Luka wouldnt make us a championship team by himself...should we not trade for him if he's available?
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Kampuchea wrote:8516knicks wrote:mpharris36 wrote:you need multiple ball handlers and shot creators to work in the NBA. No team wins with just one guys doing everything.
What's the last team with two starting 6'1" guards who won a championship? played in a final series? Made the playoffs? NOT WORTH IT. Keep our 2023 picks and Obi and Grimes and roll the dice. We might get a Hailburton or D. Mitchell at 10 or so, we're DUE. And even if we don't DM isn't going to get us past the 2nd round.![]()
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The Utah Jazz were a pretty good team with two 6’1” guards
If they were so good, why are their FO LIQUIDATING THEM????

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aggo wrote:aq_ua wrote:Just walk away, Leon. Nothing good will come of this.
you dont walk away from a top 25 player available.
sit down and do the math.
you have to get to the 40th best player in the NBA before you get to guys that can be traded for.
The math is that we will be stuck with no room to improve after the trade, and everyone will turn on Mitchell and Brunson for not making the Knicks a contender. We've made a solid effort, now let's wait for Mitchell to get disgruntled and push his way out.
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Brunson / Rose / McBride (Rokas)
Grimes / IQ
RJ / Fournier / Cam
Randle / Obi
Mitch / Hart / Sims
Yea I wanna trade Randle, but that is a nice team if even 1-2 guys make a leap, which Id easily bet happens, &/or Randle and Rose rebound.
I know some will quote this and just say “Mid”, but I disagree. This is the best and deepest team we’ve had for a very long time, and we have all our picks and then some along with promising youngns.
See what they can do if Ainge wants to be a dlck. Stay the course. This isnt DWade we’re talking about.
Grimes / IQ
RJ / Fournier / Cam
Randle / Obi
Mitch / Hart / Sims
Yea I wanna trade Randle, but that is a nice team if even 1-2 guys make a leap, which Id easily bet happens, &/or Randle and Rose rebound.
I know some will quote this and just say “Mid”, but I disagree. This is the best and deepest team we’ve had for a very long time, and we have all our picks and then some along with promising youngns.
See what they can do if Ainge wants to be a dlck. Stay the course. This isnt DWade we’re talking about.
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Thread is ass now.. shut it down for now. Mods!
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Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
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aggo wrote:aq_ua wrote:Just walk away, Leon. Nothing good will come of this.
you dont walk away from a top 25 player available.
sit down and do the math.
you have to get to the 40th best player in the NBA before you get to guys that can be traded for.
"you dont walk away from a top 25 player available." = but almost everyone here wants to walk away from Randle.
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nyknicks09 wrote:Randle, Fournier, IQ, Grimes, Cam, and 5 future 1st round picks for Mitchell and Mike Conley
Conley is a negative value player. And we already have Rose, Brunson, and Donovan in the backcourt. We do not need another expensive undersized player.
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More I think about this, it's not worth it. Just get rid of Randle with a pick and go from there.
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I wonder if the Suns played some rope a dope on Ayton. Wanted him for 4 years, don't care about the trade kicker and stuff.
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8516knicks wrote:KnixinSix wrote:Kampuchea wrote:
The Utah Jazz were a pretty good team with two 6’1” guards
How quickly this is lost on peeps
When did Utah win the Championship? I missed it. when did they play in the finals? Oh, never???? Yeah, lets be like them. They wer so good they just decided to DISMANTLE their team!!!![]()
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the pistons are prob the prime small guard example, but he's referring to horny\stockton jazz
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here we go again.
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