2022 Vegas Summer League thread

[Klomp]

Read on Twitter

[winforlose]

I haven't watch any of the Vegas games. Looking at the stats, I am wondering if Kevon Harris has a shot of making the team. He scored some points, been in the G league for a couple years, and is a 6-6 pg that can guard multiple positions.

Kevon Harris spent 2 years in the G. Rather than listing them one by one I will link to his stats. His numbers would be decent if they were in the NBA but because they come over 30 minutes per night in the G league, they are average to below average. While it is possible he succeeds with us, I would not bet a limited spot on him.

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630284/

I feel like this is an odd comment. Counting stats shouldn't really matter in the G League, just like they shouldn't really matter in the summer league.

We aren't looking for a 30 ppg scorer to round out the bench. We're looking for solid players who play the right way. If they think Harris could be that guy, then they should go for it.

Let me start by pointing out that Minott and Knight will both be with the team in some capacity this year (likely both as two ways or with Knight a two way and Minott a roster player.) Assuming Minott is a two way now we have roster spot 13 and roster spot 14 to finish adding depth, assuming we save spot 15 for the deadline/buy out market.

In his rookie year Nowell shot close to 44% from deep in the G. Up with us he shot 11.5% from deep and only 35.8% from the field. This is far from the only example of stats not translating between leagues. The shift on competition and decline in minutes and usage will effect Harris. I want to clarify this is not an absolute truth, just a prediction based on pattern. So the question is whether a player with decent G league stats is a good gamble over more established talent for a deep bench role in a contending team. I don’t know what other players will be made available when rosters are paired down and trades cause guys to get waived, but my question is whether Harris is a good bet based on his age and numbers? Youth is great for building for the future, but for us we are done building, it’s time to win.

[KGdaBom]

Kevon Harris spent 2 years in the G. Rather than listing them one by one I will link to his stats. His numbers would be decent if they were in the NBA but because they come over 30 minutes per night in the G league, they are average to below average. While it is possible he succeeds with us, I would not bet a limited spot on him.

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630284/

I feel like this is an odd comment. Counting stats shouldn't really matter in the G League, just like they shouldn't really matter in the summer league.

We aren't looking for a 30 ppg scorer to round out the bench. We're looking for solid players who play the right way. If they think Harris could be that guy, then they should go for it.

Let me start by pointing out that Minott and Knight will both be with the team in some capacity this year (likely both as two ways or with Knight a two way and Minott a roster player.) Assuming Minott is a two way now we have roster spot 13 and roster spot 14 to finish adding depth, assuming we save spot 15 for the deadline/buy out market.

In his rookie year Nowell shot close to 44% from deep in the G. Up with us he shot 11.5% from deep and only 35.8% from the field. This is far from the only example of stats not translating between leagues. The shift on competition and decline in minutes and usage will effect Harris. I want to clarify this is not an absolute truth, just a prediction based on pattern. So the question is whether a player with decent G league stats is a good gamble over more established talent for a deep bench role in a contending team. I don’t know what other players will be made available when rosters are paired down and trades cause guys to get waived, but my question is whether Harris is a good bet based on his age and numbers? Youth is great for building for the future, but for us we are done building, it’s time to win.

All I can say is that Harris has shown a good handle, great athleticism and fearlessness during this Summer League.

[winforlose]

I feel like this is an odd comment. Counting stats shouldn't really matter in the G League, just like they shouldn't really matter in the summer league.

We aren't looking for a 30 ppg scorer to round out the bench. We're looking for solid players who play the right way. If they think Harris could be that guy, then they should go for it.

Let me start by pointing out that Minott and Knight will both be with the team in some capacity this year (likely both as two ways or with Knight a two way and Minott a roster player.) Assuming Minott is a two way now we have roster spot 13 and roster spot 14 to finish adding depth, assuming we save spot 15 for the deadline/buy out market.

In his rookie year Nowell shot close to 44% from deep in the G. Up with us he shot 11.5% from deep and only 35.8% from the field. This is far from the only example of stats not translating between leagues. The shift on competition and decline in minutes and usage will effect Harris. I want to clarify this is not an absolute truth, just a prediction based on pattern. So the question is whether a player with decent G league stats is a good gamble over more established talent for a deep bench role in a contending team. I don’t know what other players will be made available when rosters are paired down and trades cause guys to get waived, but my question is whether Harris is a good bet based on his age and numbers? Youth is great for building for the future, but for us we are done building, it’s time to win.

All I can say is that Harris has shown a good handle, great athleticism and fearlessness during this Summer League.

I would need to pay more attention to him to properly evaluate his game. I have been more focused on the players we drafted. That said, Summer League is a lot less competitive than the G league. G League is much less competitive than the NBA, and the playoffs are of course the pinnacle. Ideally we will be mostly healthy for the playoffs and never have to worry about guys 11-15, but I do worry. I also am aware that a solid 11-15 is good injury insurance during the regular season and allows rest games for different 1-10 players down the stretch. I wouldn’t waste spots 13 and 14 on guys who might be good, I would seek out best available at PG and PF with the understanding that the PF might play SF in a pinch.

[Klomp]

Let me start by pointing out that Minott and Knight will both be with the team in some capacity this year (likely both as two ways or with Knight a two way and Minott a roster player.) Assuming Minott is a two way now we have roster spot 13 and roster spot 14 to finish adding depth, assuming we save spot 15 for the deadline/buy out market.

In his rookie year Nowell shot close to 44% from deep in the G. Up with us he shot 11.5% from deep and only 35.8% from the field. This is far from the only example of stats not translating between leagues. The shift on competition and decline in minutes and usage will effect Harris. I want to clarify this is not an absolute truth, just a prediction based on pattern. So the question is whether a player with decent G league stats is a good gamble over more established talent for a deep bench role in a contending team. I don’t know what other players will be made available when rosters are paired down and trades cause guys to get waived, but my question is whether Harris is a good bet based on his age and numbers? Youth is great for building for the future, but for us we are done building, it’s time to win.

The goal is to find translatable, complementary skill sets around Gobert, Towns and Edwards. I don't care where or how we find them.

[winforlose]

Let me start by pointing out that Minott and Knight will both be with the team in some capacity this year (likely both as two ways or with Knight a two way and Minott a roster player.) Assuming Minott is a two way now we have roster spot 13 and roster spot 14 to finish adding depth, assuming we save spot 15 for the deadline/buy out market.

In his rookie year Nowell shot close to 44% from deep in the G. Up with us he shot 11.5% from deep and only 35.8% from the field. This is far from the only example of stats not translating between leagues. The shift on competition and decline in minutes and usage will effect Harris. I want to clarify this is not an absolute truth, just a prediction based on pattern. So the question is whether a player with decent G league stats is a good gamble over more established talent for a deep bench role in a contending team. I don’t know what other players will be made available when rosters are paired down and trades cause guys to get waived, but my question is whether Harris is a good bet based on his age and numbers? Youth is great for building for the future, but for us we are done building, it’s time to win.

The goal is to find translatable, complementary skill sets around Gobert, Towns and Edwards. I don't care where or how we find them.

You missed a word, consistent. Young players are notoriously inconsistent. Granted he is 25, but his experience level is young.

[Klomp]

Let me start by pointing out that Minott and Knight will both be with the team in some capacity this year (likely both as two ways or with Knight a two way and Minott a roster player.) Assuming Minott is a two way now we have roster spot 13 and roster spot 14 to finish adding depth, assuming we save spot 15 for the deadline/buy out market.

In his rookie year Nowell shot close to 44% from deep in the G. Up with us he shot 11.5% from deep and only 35.8% from the field. This is far from the only example of stats not translating between leagues. The shift on competition and decline in minutes and usage will effect Harris. I want to clarify this is not an absolute truth, just a prediction based on pattern. So the question is whether a player with decent G league stats is a good gamble over more established talent for a deep bench role in a contending team. I don’t know what other players will be made available when rosters are paired down and trades cause guys to get waived, but my question is whether Harris is a good bet based on his age and numbers? Youth is great for building for the future, but for us we are done building, it’s time to win.

The goal is to find translatable, complementary skill sets around Gobert, Towns and Edwards. I don't care where or how we find them.

You missed a word, consistent. Young players are notoriously inconsistent. Granted he is 25, but his experience level is young.

We aren't likely to sign anyone that we are looking for regular 2022-23 rotation minutes from, so I'm not as worried about consistency yet from these last few spots.

[winforlose]

The goal is to find translatable, complementary skill sets around Gobert, Towns and Edwards. I don't care where or how we find them.

You missed a word, consistent. Young players are notoriously inconsistent. Granted he is 25, but his experience level is young.

We aren't likely to sign anyone that we are looking for regular 2022-23 rotation minutes from, so I'm not as worried about consistency yet from these last few spots.

Fair, but now TP sprains his ankle in game 18. Now what? Worse, in game 21 Anderson gets a sore hamstring. Now what? Depth matters, and we are shallow at both forward positions.

[Klomp]

You missed a word, consistent. Young players are notoriously inconsistent. Granted he is 25, but his experience level is young.

We aren't likely to sign anyone that we are looking for regular 2022-23 rotation minutes from, so I'm not as worried about consistency yet from these last few spots.

Fair, but now TP sprains his ankle in game 18. Now what? Worse, in game 21 Anderson gets a sore hamstring. Now what? Depth matters, and we are shallow at both forward positions.

Welcome to the NBA. Injuries happen. How many teams are three deep at both forward positions in consistent, reliable veteran presences. It's not as common as you probably think.

[winforlose]

We aren't likely to sign anyone that we are looking for regular 2022-23 rotation minutes from, so I'm not as worried about consistency yet from these last few spots.

Fair, but now TP sprains his ankle in game 18. Now what? Worse, in game 21 Anderson gets a sore hamstring. Now what? Depth matters, and we are shallow at both forward positions.

Welcome to the NBA. Injuries happen. How many teams are three deep at both forward positions in consistent, reliable veteran presences. It's not as common as you probably think.

I am not saying it is. I am saying we have a chance to make it happen. Why wouldn’t make yourself 3 deep at both if you have the opportunity? BTW, you still didn’t answer my question. What do we do in the above hypo?

[Klomp]

Read on Twitter

[KGdaBom]

Read on Twitter

My respect and admiration for them has grown immensely knowing that they are dog people.

[Nick K]

Read on Twitter

Good one Klomp! That was fun.

[BlacJacMac]

I think we need to slow down on the "Josh Minott learned to shoot" take.

Since going 8/15 and 2/3 from 3 in Game one, he's gone 5/23 and 0/3 from behind the arc in the 2+ games since.

[BlacJacMac]

And Minott hits three straight 3s to shut me up...

[winforlose]

Josh Minott has 3 of 4 games with 10+ rebounds. I can only remember 3 missed free throws in summer league so far (I could be wrong and didn’t bother to look up each game.) Minott has flaws and is too green and frankly not strong enough for the NBA right now. But, his game has enough tools to do well in the G this year, and he COULD develop into something special. He has a much higher ceiling than WMJ in my opinion.

WMJ had his best game. He still has the same flaws, but at least he was more confident in his shot and made some better decisions.

[moss_is_1]

Watched some last night, Minott looks nice. He plays hard and shows some good skill, hopefully let him develop in the gleague.

Moore looks solid, great length, he seems like a player who just would benefit playing with some real talent. Makes players better and they make him better.

[KGdaBom]

Read on Twitter

Did anybody attend this? I want a report.

[Klomp]

Read on Twitter

Did anybody attend this? I want a report.

Read on Twitter

[KGdaBom]

Read on Twitter

Did anybody attend this? I want a report.

Read on Twitter

Thanks. That was awesome. I think they actually lost the game though.