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Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3

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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#301 » by Adelheid » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:02 am

The Heat may just be able to land DM and perhaps at a much lesser haul than what was "reported" in the jazz-knicks talks
but thats just how trading in sports works; you just dont simply outbid your competitor and it is because the seller presents different pricing to each prospective team. Its not fair but it is what it is.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#302 » by KnixtapeH20 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:02 am

nyknicks09 wrote:Leon needs to include Randle in the deal and keep Obi at all cost.

Randle, Grimes, IQ, McBride, and 5 future 1st round picks for DM

JB
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Mitch

We can run the floor like The Showtime Lakers with this lineup.

Gave u an and1 but we shouldn't have to include Grimes just make it 6 picks. Randle, Fournier, rose w.e makes it work within the parameters.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#303 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:03 am

Last thought on Randle. The man does not GAF about winning. He would pout during our victories if something went against his own personal interests during a game. Conversely, he’d often be all smiles and chirpy after a loss if he had big numbers. The guy is an effing loser.

If you want to bring in Mitchell, you better have a plan for getting Randle off this squad or chit is going to get ugly here. Randle is a time bomb. He is incapable of sharing the spotlight. When RJ took over the leadership role Randle went into a funk he never recovered from. He will loathe the attention Mitchell gets. Ignore at your own peril
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#304 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:03 am

Randle bout to be pout all season
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#305 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:03 am

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knicksNOTslick wrote:The Nets traded unprotected picks for players way past their prime. What we would be getting is a soon to be 26 year old just about to hit his prime. It depends on the deal. If we get to keep most of our young players, that should be alright. Our FO tends to do better with later picks anyways.



The Lakers did that, won a title, now their team looks like it's on welfare and the 26 yr old all-star they traded a kings ransom for isn't as good as they thought. The Nets also traded a lot for Harden, didn't work out.


I'm just not a fan of these kind of trade the farm for 1 guy type deals.

You wouldn't trade the farm for a title? Are you a Knicks fan. We haven't won since the 70s.

The Anthony Davis trade worked out since they got a ring out of it. Who cares if you're on welfare afterwards. Totally worth it. Bad example.

They traded for Harden past his prime. He was, what? 31? And the dude doesn't take care of his body, coming in to camp out of shape. Completely unprofessional. The red flags were apparent.




Do we have LeBron James on our team right now? You do this type of trade if you already have that guy on your team, you don't do this to get someone who isn't a top 10 player.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#306 » by AusKnicksTape » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:03 am

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Clyde_Style wrote:I truly do not understand how Randle is going to work with Brunson and Mitchell. RJ needs touches too.

They really wanted Brunson, but in order to pair him with Mitchell? Really? I call BS

This is an ad hoc situation fueled by lust for a star, but none of this was planned. Sure, you can say we didn’t know Ainge was going into full rebuild mode in Utah, but our FO probably knew he was going that direction before the Gobert trade and before they signed Brunson.

The only clear plan was they wanted Brunson and they got him.

I’m not even opposed to trading for Mitchell, but how TF are you going to make Randle work in that line-up? YOU WON’T. He will be a disaster. But, yeah, ignore the issue and pretend our roster will be golden. It won’t. Mitchell might be great, but we have a serious roster construction problem with guys wanting touches and it is not resolvable. You can’t convince me Randle will willinglhy play a mostly off the ball game now and take a back seat to the backcourt. He’s going to pout and turn the locker room into a cesspool

There's no too.

RJ is the leader of this team. If we get DMitch it'll be DMitch & RJ team. When we got Brunson I said it was still RJ's team, Brun just gona be the facilitator and not be on some this my team bs. He'll ease himself into the team and get everyone involved.

This is RJ Barrett team whether Randle or any Knicks fan likes it or not.


That should be the case but it won't be. Thibs and front office don't work that way. Well at least from what they've shown us this whole time.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#307 » by KnixtapeH20 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:04 am

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So just to be clear you prefer Mitchell go to the heat for a much lesser package than the Knicks can offer which it would be just so you can feel better?

No one gives AF about feeling better bro. It's very clear what he's saying. Do not let this **** screw us and leave us w.o all our picks and young players **** that. Move on like he said if ainge won't budge. We're not the ones that are desperate or NEED to make this move.



Oh I know what he’s saying, but his comment about going to Miami is just stupid, because the only way mitchell goes to Miami would be if Ainge takes a much lesser deal then the Knicks..so if that’s going to make him happy then good for him

Yea that's true, if he doesn't take our deal why would he settle for Miami unless they somehow find a way which fkn AL Pacino always does... Smh
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#308 » by snadler » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:05 am

If Mitchell ends up on the heat for Herro, Robinson and 2 first round picks then Leon Rose should be fired.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#309 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:05 am

this is still randle's team and you'll like it
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#310 » by Kidknick! » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:06 am

Clyde_Style wrote:Last thought on Randle. The man does not GAF about winning. He would pout during our victories if something went against his own personal interests during a game. Conversely, he’d often be all smiles and chirpy after a loss if he had big numbers. The guy is an effing loser.

If you want to bring in Mitchell, you better have a plan for getting Randle off this squad or chit is going to get ugly here. Randle is a time bomb. Ignore at your own peril



Facts, Randle was the WORST Knick teammate I have ever seen in my 30+ years of Knicks fandom. He's garbage. And now imagine his behavior to becoming possibly the FOURTH option behind Mitchell, RJ and Brunson. This is a recipe for disaster. Man couldn't even handle the occasional good Founier game.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#311 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:06 am

3toheadmelo wrote:this is still randle's team and you'll like it


You’re clueless
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#312 » by KnixtapeH20 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:07 am

Adelheid wrote:The Heat may just be able to land DM and perhaps at a much lesser haul than what was "reported" in the jazz-knicks talks
but thats just how trading in sports works; you just dont simply outbid your competitor and it is because the seller presents different pricing to each prospective team. Its not fair but it is what it is.

That wouldn't make any sense for Danny Ainge and the Jazz.

Are u saying Miami will offer a lesser package and Ainge will accept for some reason? Or did I understand u wrong
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#313 » by KnixtapeH20 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:08 am

3toheadmelo wrote:this is still randle's team and you'll like it

Lmao you're the only person that WANTS to believe that. Even u don't anymore.

Was happy AF to learn u said if he doesn't figure it out this season even you'd want him traded. Amen
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#314 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:08 am

Ainge knowing how many picks the Knicks have to trade and what he wants...

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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#316 » by Im Coming Home » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:09 am

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The Lakers did that, won a title, now their team looks like it's on welfare and the 26 yr old all-star they traded a kings ransom for isn't as good as they thought. The Nets also traded a lot for Harden, didn't work out.


I'm just not a fan of these kind of trade the farm for 1 guy type deals.

You wouldn't trade the farm for a title? Are you a Knicks fan. We haven't won since the 70s.

The Anthony Davis trade worked out since they got a ring out of it. Who cares if you're on welfare afterwards. Totally worth it. Bad example.

They traded for Harden past his prime. He was, what? 31? And the dude doesn't take care of his body, coming in to camp out of shape. Completely unprofessional. The red flags were apparent.




Do we have LeBron James on our team right now? You do this type of trade if you already have that guy on your team, you don't do this to get someone who isn't a top 10 player.

For real. It's an All In trade when we don't have an all in team.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#317 » by AusKnicksTape » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:09 am

Clyde_Style wrote:Last thought on Randle. The man does not GAF about winning. He would pout during our victories if something went against his own personal interests during a game. Conversely, he’d often be all smiles and chirpy after a loss if he had big numbers. The guy is an effing loser.

If you want to bring in Mitchell, you better have a plan for getting Randle off this squad or chit is going to get ugly here. Randle is a time bomb. He is incapable of sharing the spotlight. When RJ took over the leadership role Randle went into a funk he never recovered from. He will loathe the attention Mitchell gets. Ignore at your own peril


I'd and10 this if i could.

Where's bearadonisdna to come in and call us crazy and stick up for Randle lol. Nah he's a good dude im just playing.
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Re: Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3 

Post#318 » by RHODEY » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:09 am

nyknicks09 wrote:Leon needs to include Randle in the deal and keep Obi at all cost.

Randle, Grimes, IQ, McBride, and 5 future 1st round picks for DM

JB
DM
RJ
Obi
Mitch

We can run the floor like The Showtime Lakers with this lineup.


You gotta Keep OBI AND GRIMES out....
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Post#319 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:09 am

This is Brunson's team and melo will hate it so we all like it.
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