Update: Shams says NY/Utah have began trade discussions for Donovan Mitchell part 3

[Bob Ross]

How long did it take from Harden requesting a trade out of Brooklyn to finally landing in Philly? Cause this feels a bit like that - so much smoke that you see flames, reports that it's an inevitability, but it felt like it was weeks of posturing. Maybe this follows a similar timeline

[thebuzzardman]

Enough of Mitch trying to save face. Make the demand.


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Mitchell's first choice is Miami, btw.

Thanks, Donovan's mom.

[F N 11]

Jalen Rose said Utah tanking for victor wembanyama

[evevale]

Enough of Mitch trying to save face. Make the demand.


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Mitchell's first choice is Miami, btw.

i think mitchell's first choice is being anywhere but utah

[TruthBeTold]

Normally I would be ready to trade a bench player in a package for a star player, but including Obi Toppin in any package for Donovan Mitchell is a dealbreaker for me. We already know RJ is safe. If the Knicks can get this trade done without giving up Obi and RJ, I would consider it a win as long as we don't give up all our future first-round picks.

I've been saying for ages on this board that the Knicks need star players to go to the next level, while the young players develop under them.

[F N 11]

Donovan Mitchell at cyclones game and it’s his bobble head night.

[aggo]

Ainge will blink first.

he won't want to bring Mitchell to start the regular season. Not only will it be a horrid distraction to his coach and team, but he actually wants to also tank.

[3toheadmelo]

someone get these utah fans tf outta here

[8516knicks]

Has any one ever defined what exactly fluid meant

Jazz has asked for basically everyone on the roster in one form or another at some point in the last 2 days

They can't have Ryan! Or Meals! (he'll eat their lunch!)

[8516knicks]

someone get these utah fans tf outta here

All 0.011122 of them?

[Monk1718]

someone get these utah fans tf outta here

Nobody can argue with us but us. What a dysfunctional family and team.

[Guano]

Fck I have covid and I'm terrified because it feels brutal and it's just the first day. Any recommendations from anyone with experience to get over this asap? I'm going to get a scrip for Paxlovid tomorrow when Urgent Care/ my pharmacy open back up.

Hope it passes quickly and you fully recover homie

[Monk1718]

Does Utah have bbws? Not the super obese kind just the plump ones. Just asking for a friend.

[3toheadmelo]

someone get these utah fans tf outta here

Nobody can argue with us but us. What a dysfunctional family and team.

the only utah fan allowed to stay here is guan0

[Monk1718]

someone get these utah fans tf outta here

Nobody can argue with us but us. What a dysfunctional family and team.

the only utah fan allowed to stay here is guan0

Jesus

[F N 11]

When there’s smoke

Watch on YouTube

[8516knicks]

You need to understand the value of those "1st round picks", though. Since most those picks are from teams other than the Knicks, many are highly protected (some could end up being 2nd round picks due to those protections), others are picks likely in the 20's. It's not like they are a bunch of lottery picks. Trading DM for 6 picks, if they end up being something like; 1 lottery, three later 1st rounders and two 2nd rounders, isn't very good. They need to get Knick unprotected picks & pick swaps, to make the deal worth while, IMO.

The non-Knick picks really aren't as sexy as people want to think they are:

Mavericks first round pick (protected top 10 in 2023-25, else 2025 second round pick)
-- so this one is likely going to be a mid-20's 1st rounder

Nuggets first round pick (protected top 14 in 2023-25, else 2025 second round pick, 2026 second round pick)
-- so this one should be a 1st round pick in the later half of the order, or if the Nugs don't perform well, will be a 2nd rounder

Pistons first round pick (protected top 16 in 2021-22, top 18 in 2023-24, top 13 in 2025, top 11 in 2026, top 9 in 2027, else 2027 second round pick)
-- so this one very-well could end up being a 2nd round pick

Wizards first round pick (protected top 14 in 2023, top 12 in 2024, top 10 in 2025, top 8 in 2026, else 2026 second round pick, 2027 second round pick)
-- so this one looks similar to Pistons, where unless the team gets out of the lottery in the next couple years, it'll be a 2nd round pick (top 8 protected in 2026 could be the best case scenario, if they are in the 9-13 range) One of our Jazz fans posted this and it really shows the real value of some of those picks being talked about. Not really sure this give me hope building with the draft picks only. I can see why Danny is also pushing for couple young players to help rebuild.

At this point I don't care. Like a Japanese pilot on a carrier on 12/6/41. It's going down regardless of what I want. We're gonna have 5 years of hell but two weeks of Yipee!

[Bob Ross]

I know it feels like we are bidding against ourselves but that is almost certainly not true. There has to be at least 2-3 dark horse teams we don't know about that are lining up moves for an offer of their own. If we wait too long, we could miss the boat

[K_ick_God]

If we send picks, what do we need to send them Grimes? Ainge doesn't go supermarket shopping off our roster. The picks are more than what anybody else could offer and DM doesn't want to go anywhere but NY (Obvious).

[robillionaire]

So is Jericho gonna give up #45? That was MJs number on the bulls when he came back, but maybe he should ask Mitch to give up the #23. Tough choices