Teams that have ZERO chance to compete in future because of ownership/front office

[chuck_wagon44]

It's evident as I am getting older that the NBA is strictly a business. Majority of NBA owners would rather have a large profit than win an actual championship. I feel like some owners cater to their fan base by doing bare minimum to get fans on board but in terms of actually competing and having to pay luxury tax, they simply bow out. It kinda turned me off as a fan and I'm sure it sucks to hear this but a lot of the bad owners in sports (not just nba) ruin the fan culture in general. Here is my list of NBA teams who will never win a championship IN FUTURE due to bad ownership:

1.) NY Knicks - Dolan
2.) OKC Thunder - market and ownership doing bare minimum
3.) Orlando Magic - ownership never keeps stars (Shaq, Penny, Dwight)
4.) Houston Rockets - Fertitta
5.) Sacramento Kings - Vivek
6.) Indiana Pacers - market and ownership not caring about winning
7.) Charlotte Hornets - market and never keeping stars/young talent
8.) San Antonio Spurs - ownership situation and market attractability

[kiwinbafan05]

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[cupcakesnake]

Can't really get behind this list.

- OKC is in great shape in terms of building a future contender.
- Houston looked doomed but quickly restocked the cupboard and repaired their draft equity. They now have a very exciting young core.
- If Paolo is as advertised, the Magic are in the best shape they've been in since Dwight.
- The Pacers have very consistently built very good teams. Reggie Miller era into the JO/Artest team that ended with Malice at the Palace, then they quickly built that Paul George/Hibbert team. Even the recent iteration with Sabonis/Brogdon/Turner might have been a strong playoff team had it not been for career-altering injuries to Oladipo and Warren.
- The Spurs won a championship in 2014 and have only now gone full tilt on their rebuild.

New York, Sacramento, and Charlotte are the only teams that feel perpetually stuck in the mud. Charlotte I was ready to take off this list with their exciting core around Lamelo, but then the Miles Bridges incident happened and now we need to see how they rebound from that. I actually have hope for Sacramento for the first time in a while. Mostly because I'm an outlier Keegan Murray fan, but also because I think this roster makes sense for the first time in years. They're going to start 2x 2-way wings with a passing big man and a speedy point guard. They have Holmes off the bench. They have a good offensive guard (Huerter) and defensive guard (Davion). I'm buying Sactown stock this summer.

(sorry New York, I couldn't think of anything nice to say. I hate basically everything the Knicks have done in the Thibs era. I love RJ and Mitchell Robinson but feel they're stunted by the constant shuffle of ill-fitting veterans. Brunson is a nice player.)

[HeatIn5]

Imagine if Sac had Luka and Giannis lol

[MindState]

Imagine if Sac had Luka and Giannis lol

They wouldnt.

Giannis would have left and Luka would be on his way out.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Gotta love the strong takes from the casuals

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2784460-thunder-to-become-1st-team-in-nba-history-to-top-300m-in-salary-and-luxury-tax.amp.html

[sp6r=underrated]

Gotta love the strong takes from the casuals

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2784460-thunder-to-become-1st-team-in-nba-history-to-top-300m-in-salary-and-luxury-tax.amp.html

Imagine if he was willing to spend that to keep Harden in 2012. OKC would have been the GSW of the teens

[JayMKE]

Dolan is the worst really, he don't GAF at all and is fine cashing in off MSG. Vivek I feel like has had some near swings and misses, things are looking a lot different if they had Luka obviously but I don't think they're bad from lack of caring. Ted Leonsis and Wizards seems to fly under the radar, don't seem to care much about competing while raking in cash in one of the biggest richest metros. There's a ton of "bad" owners in the league honestly and they do occasionally walk ass backward into contention like Sarver did in Phoenix, there's just another level of bad that's fine with whatever as long as brings back a profit and being personally sh*tty people too.

[iLLmatic860]

Why aren’t Suns on list?

[jasonxxx102]

The Knicks have the worst FO/Ownership probably in all of professional sports followed closely by the Kings.

[DrCoach]

Knicks have been pretty solid

Gained multiple picks
Drafted many young players
Have cap flexibility

[BostonCouchGM]

None tbh

[cgf]

Dolan is the worst really, he don't GAF at all and is fine cashing in off MSG. Vivek I feel like has had some near swings and misses, things are looking a lot different if they had Luka obviously but I don't think they're bad from lack of caring. Ted Leonsis and Wizards seems to fly under the radar, don't seem to care much about competing while raking in cash in one of the biggest richest metros. There's a ton of "bad" owners in the league honestly and they do occasionally walk ass backward into contention like Sarver did in Phoenix, there's just another level of bad that's fine with whatever as long as brings back a profit and being personally sh*tty people too.

FWIW I prefer "leaving it to the basketball people" Dolan to "hands on" Dolan.

*sigh*

[cgf]

Knicks have been pretty solid

Gained multiple picks
Drafted many young players
Have cap flexibility

This new FO has done fine so far, it's just hard to have a lot of faith because trying to do the Toronto/Miami thing of going from bad to solid to good to genuinely contending is harder & takes more patience than the 'tank for a superstar' to 'team on the rise' to 'geniune contender' path. So they have to keep doing good work consistently for a longer time.

...and the whole thing could be wasted if they blow their wad on the wrong #1 option. If they mess that up RJ could turn into a Pippen level #2 while Brunson turned into peak Kyle Lowry, and we still wouldn't have a chance at a title.

But yeah, so far they've done a good job of building up the stockpile of futures to use as trade capital or to bolster their own core, bringing in young NBA talent to start populating that core, and creating an environment where they can develop without being overwhelmed or buried.

It's just hard not to be scared that this has all just been leading to another Melo trade where we blow all of that ammo on the wrong #1 option and then can't build a contender around him.

[Klomp]

Feels nice to take a break from being on this list!

[Big J]

OKC can't keep stars in that city, nor do they want to pay them, so them.

[Vampirate]

The only team I feel belongs on this list at this time are the Wizards, every other team has some array of hope.

And yes i'm saying the Wizards are in worse shape going forwards than the Knicks and Kings.

I guess you can put the Blazers on this list but there's a possibility Dame captures some of his Superstar clutch self.

[Duke4life831]

I would say none. I mean just a few years ago I think with Sarver many wouldve had them at or near the top of their list. They were just in the Finals a couple years ago.

Honestly all it takes is one or two lucky moves and your entire franchise is turned around.

[rtiff68]

I would say none. I mean just a few years ago I think with Sarver many wouldve had them at or near the top of their list. They were just in the Finals a couple years ago.

Honestly all it takes is one or two lucky moves and your entire franchise is turned around.

As we’ve seen though, if you have a crappy ownership, they will find a way to screw things up in short order, even if they get lucky the way you described.

See: the example you pointed out. Sarver.

[cgf]

[snip]

(sorry New York, I couldn't think of anything nice to say. I hate basically everything the Knicks have done in the Thibs era. I love RJ and Mitchell Robinson but feel they're stunted by the constant shuffle of ill-fitting veterans. Brunson is a nice player.)

FWIW there aren't many vets left. At this point, it's just Brunson, Randle, Fournier & Rose who are more than 24yo...and Fournier only has one more year after this one, his final season is a team option; so even if he isn't moved soon, he's not likely to be in NY past this season.