Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4

[spree8]

I’m just jealous of Detroit. Here we are talking about giving up our youth plus damn near all of our future picks for a non-superstar player, while Detroit did it right and has all their picks plus Cade, Ivey, Duren, and Bey.

Why is this so hard for us to do? We should have Ivey & Duren

[Clyde_Style]

This is reminding me of the melo trade NEGOTIATIONS, relax. There was a lot of going back and forth. Eventually we just gave up everything but I don’t think that will be the case here because unless the Jazz plan on moving their team to Las Vegas, no one wants to play there and their best shot at turning it around is being Wack for Wembanyama. Keeping Mitchell will **** up their tank.

Nah, it's not that similar. That was a drama that was drawn out during the better part of a regular season which was completely disruptive. This is a normal off-season. We just happen to be in the mix for a change, but it's not like this has been going on indefinitely. It just feels that way because Buzz has posted 150 pages all by themself

Also the Knicks had competition for Melo. And also that competition was our crosstown rivals. Not to mention there was going to be a lock out at the end of the season and Melo wanted the full max before the lock out happened so whoever got him was keeping him long term.

Yes and DM is under contract well in the future already

[Fat Kat]

This is reminding me of the melo trade NEGOTIATIONS, relax. There was a lot of going back and forth. Eventually we just gave up everything but I don’t think that will be the case here because unless the Jazz plan on moving their team to Las Vegas, no one wants to play there and their best shot at turning it around is being Wack for Wembanyama. Keeping Mitchell will **** up their tank.

Who was Melo’s agent during those negotiations?

[Montmorencie]

The thing is when we get Melo the league was perfect for him but soon after that the Curry happened and he became an obsolete player.

Even though 2022 Mitch ranks lower than Melo 2010 he is way more valuable player and he can adapt. The Knicks should go for him 100% Knicks youth is literally the worst in the league, not one real talent, only few role players.

[Clyde_Style]

This is reminding me of the melo trade NEGOTIATIONS, relax. There was a lot of going back and forth. Eventually we just gave up everything but I don’t think that will be the case here because unless the Jazz plan on moving their team to Las Vegas, no one wants to play there and their best shot at turning it around is being Wack for Wembanyama. Keeping Mitchell will **** up their tank.

Who was Melo’s agent during those negotiations?

P.T. Barnum

[May 25 1993]

It’s going to be a 3 team deal. This is my best guess:

Utah gets reddish, grimes, McBride, Westbrook, Horton-tucker and 5 knicks firsts (3 unprotected) and 1 lakers 1st

Lakers get Conley and Fournier

Knicks get Mitchell and Alexander-walker

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I’m just jealous of Detroit. Here we are talking about giving up our youth plus damn near all of our future picks for a non-superstar player, while Detroit did it right and has all their picks plus Cade, Ivey, Duren, and Bey.

Why is this so hard for us to do? We should have Ivey & Duren

Smaller markets have figured out the draft is their salvation, and to keep your star you make sure you suck for a few years so they have the pieces around them.

The Jazz did the opposite too, they got their star and then made trades to compete right away. Now, they're going to use the Ainge method, and it'll lead to a better team in the long run.


We should have tanked RJ's rookie season without any remorse and used the off-season to be a salary dumping ground with picks attached, we'd be much better off right now.

[rammagen]

If ainge wants to play game let them begin i start engaging teams on gathering more assets. I target tes that have what the jazz want just drive the jazz prices up and mitch d price down.
Call the cavs how much for sexton 1 and Fournier do e. That is mostly to send a message is that we will not be held hostage to a moron.

Just because the twolves over paid that does not aet the market. If not explain to the fans how you passed up 4 picks and 2 players because you were playing a game where you wanted everything amd the other team did not cave

[Fury]

This is reminding me of the melo trade NEGOTIATIONS, relax. There was a lot of going back and forth. Eventually we just gave up everything but I don’t think that will be the case here because unless the Jazz plan on moving their team to Las Vegas, no one wants to play there and their best shot at turning it around is being Wack for Wembanyama. Keeping Mitchell will **** up their tank.

Who was Melo’s agent during those negotiations?

Leon!!!

[snadler]

I’m just jealous of Detroit. Here we are talking about giving up our youth plus damn near all of our future picks for a non-superstar player, while Detroit did it right and has all their picks plus Cade, Ivey, Duren, and Bey.

Why is this so hard for us to do? We should have Ivey & Duren

I’m sure Detroit has plenty of spots for fans?

[SelbyCobra]

It's actually really prudent to acquire Mitchell now, and then have 2 years to work him and Brunson in together, find out if Julius is redeemable/tradeable, see what RJ becomes, and determine if Mitch can be relied on before the cap explosion.

Getting Mitchell now gives the FO a chance to sort through it all for 2 years, and then be in prime position to add a max cat in the right role/position to become a legit contender.

[whocares1]

I’m just jealous of Detroit. Here we are talking about giving up our youth plus damn near all of our future picks for a non-superstar player, while Detroit did it right and has all their picks plus Cade, Ivey, Duren, and Bey.

Why is this so hard for us to do? We should have Ivey & Duren

Bc Knicks fans said we tanked twice in the last 25 years so after all this losing and ruining draft positions at the end of every season, they are now convinced that tanking doesn’t work.

[HEZI]

I’m just jealous of Detroit. Here we are talking about giving up our youth plus damn near all of our future picks for a non-superstar player, while Detroit did it right and has all their picks plus Cade, Ivey, Duren, and Bey.

Why is this so hard for us to do? We should have Ivey & Duren

Smaller markets have figured out the draft is their salvation, and to keep your star you make sure you suck for a few years so they have the pieces around them.

The Jazz did the opposite too, they got their star and then made trades to compete right away. Now, they're going to use the Ainge method, and it'll lead to a better team in the long run.


We should have tanked RJ's rookie season without any remorse and used the off-season to be a salary dumping ground with picks attached, we'd be much better off right now.

No stability and no direction. Just think about it we could have drafted Mitchell in the first place, not could but should have. Phil Jackson took Stinkilikina and the following year Mills took Kevin Knox. We are now under the regime of Leon Rose. Three regimes in a span of 4 years and it’s one mistake after another passed on one regime to the next

[Fury]

I’m just jealous of Detroit. Here we are talking about giving up our youth plus damn near all of our future picks for a non-superstar player, while Detroit did it right and has all their picks plus Cade, Ivey, Duren, and Bey.

Why is this so hard for us to do? We should have Ivey & Duren

Bc Knicks fans said we tanked twice in the last 25 years so after all this losing and ruining draft positions at the end of every season, they are now convinced that tanking doesn’t work.

Tbf, which tanking teams have won titles? Duncan Spurs?

[whocares1]

It's actually really prudent to acquire Mitchell now, and then have 2 years to work him and Brunson in together, find out if Julius is redeemable/tradeable, see what RJ becomes, and determine if Mitch can be relied on before the cap explosion.

Getting Mitchell now gives the FO a chance to sort through it all for 2 years, and then be in prime position to add a max cat in the right role/position to become a legit contender.

How can we see what RJ will become if he won’t get the ball anymore? Many were concerned when Fournier was acquired..imagine now with two high usage guards on the team.

Julius is tradable…if you attach assets to him. We know this already and nothing will change that.

And Brunson and Mitchell are attracting as many star players as Dame and CJ did… none.

[Juco24]

Basically Begley says be weary of Miami

I think Ainge hates Riley more than us... but I can see Ainge using Miami to get NY to up the ante

[whocares1]

I’m just jealous of Detroit. Here we are talking about giving up our youth plus damn near all of our future picks for a non-superstar player, while Detroit did it right and has all their picks plus Cade, Ivey, Duren, and Bey.

Why is this so hard for us to do? We should have Ivey & Duren

Bc Knicks fans said we tanked twice in the last 25 years so after all this losing and ruining draft positions at the end of every season, they are now convinced that tanking doesn’t work.

Tbf, which tanking teams have won titles? Duncan Spurs?

Which team has won a title without drafting a superstar first?

[KnixinSix]

It's actually really prudent to acquire Mitchell now, and then have 2 years to work him and Brunson in together, find out if Julius is redeemable/tradeable, see what RJ becomes, and determine if Mitch can be relied on before the cap explosion.

Getting Mitchell now gives the FO a chance to sort through it all for 2 years, and then be in prime position to add a max cat in the right role/position to become a legit contender.

Both Randle and Donovan would be on same timeline with 3 years left on their contract. During that time they can figure out just how good he is going to be as well as RJ and other younger parts that remain after the trade (some combo of IQ Obi Grimes McBride Sims etc).

We will have very likely maneuverability/flexibility to sign another big cat down the road. And Mitchell probably attracts another star as well (moreso than their current squad would).

[Fury]

Bc Knicks fans said we tanked twice in the last 25 years so after all this losing and ruining draft positions at the end of every season, they are now convinced that tanking doesn’t work.

Tbf, which tanking teams have won titles? Duncan Spurs?

Which team has won a title without drafting a superstar first?

Which team has won a title drafting an eventual superstar after tanking? Just Duncan. And if you count LeBron coming back.

[8516knicks]

It's actually really prudent to acquire Mitchell now, and then have 2 years to work him and Brunson in together, find out if Julius is redeemable/tradeable, see what RJ becomes, and determine if Mitch can be relied on before the cap explosion.

Getting Mitchell now gives the FO a chance to sort through it all for 2 years, and then be in prime position to add a max cat in the right role/position to become a legit contender.

I'm coming around to this position, first because what choice do we have? And second, curious if they can make it work better than the Utah-DM-Gobert assemblage did.

But I still hate giving up both 2023 FRPs!!!