Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career?

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Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career?

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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#21 » by mdonnelly1989 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:31 pm

NW BBALL wrote:KD has to be the most underappreciated modern NBA star. Yes he is petty. Yes he can be toxic. But strictly as a basketball player he is brilliant. Even though he has played among talent, including MVPs and future HOFers, throughout his career he has outshone them when on the same court. Think about his 2017 and 2018 Finals appearances for a minute. Durant played two playoff series sharing the court with Curry and LeBron, two era defining superstars, and came back away with the best performance. His stats are absurd. A good argument could be made that he is the second best shooter of all time (surely top 5). At nearly 7 feet tall. As a volume scorer. You may not care for his personality, but he is an ATG.


Would you take KD over Klay Thompson as a shooter. Strictly in terms of shooting, nothing else.
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#22 » by mdonnelly1989 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:33 pm

Lets revisit this question after next season. My estimate is that these numbers will begin to work more favorly in KDs favor as his longevity continues to grow and the furthur away from Dr.Js career we get.
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#23 » by capfan33 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:35 am

mdonnelly1989 wrote:
NW BBALL wrote:KD has to be the most underappreciated modern NBA star. Yes he is petty. Yes he can be toxic. But strictly as a basketball player he is brilliant. Even though he has played among talent, including MVPs and future HOFers, throughout his career he has outshone them when on the same court. Think about his 2017 and 2018 Finals appearances for a minute. Durant played two playoff series sharing the court with Curry and LeBron, two era defining superstars, and came back away with the best performance. His stats are absurd. A good argument could be made that he is the second best shooter of all time (surely top 5). At nearly 7 feet tall. As a volume scorer. You may not care for his personality, but he is an ATG.


Would you take KD over Klay Thompson as a shooter. Strictly in terms of shooting, nothing else.


KDs better from mid-range and off the dribble, Klay's better from 3. How you balance those 2 things IDK. And the split between mid-range and 3 as well as off the catch vs pull-ups makes comparing shooters quite difficult IMO.
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#24 » by mdonnelly1989 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:48 am

capfan33 wrote:
mdonnelly1989 wrote:
NW BBALL wrote:KD has to be the most underappreciated modern NBA star. Yes he is petty. Yes he can be toxic. But strictly as a basketball player he is brilliant. Even though he has played among talent, including MVPs and future HOFers, throughout his career he has outshone them when on the same court. Think about his 2017 and 2018 Finals appearances for a minute. Durant played two playoff series sharing the court with Curry and LeBron, two era defining superstars, and came back away with the best performance. His stats are absurd. A good argument could be made that he is the second best shooter of all time (surely top 5). At nearly 7 feet tall. As a volume scorer. You may not care for his personality, but he is an ATG.


Would you take KD over Klay Thompson as a shooter. Strictly in terms of shooting, nothing else.


KDs better from mid-range and off the dribble, Klay's better from 3. How you balance those 2 things IDK. And the split between mid-range and 3 as well as off the catch vs pull-ups makes comparing shooters quite difficult IMO.


At least your objective. My all time 10 perimeter shooting goes like this

#1: Curry


#2. Ray Allen
#3. Larry Bird
#4. Dirk
#5. KD
#6. Reggie Miller
#7. Klay
#8. Kyle Korver
#9. Klay Thompson
#10. Petrovic
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#25 » by Cavsfansince84 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:15 am

mdonnelly1989 wrote:
At least your objective. My all time 10 perimeter shooting goes like this

#1: Curry


#2. Ray Allen
#3. Larry Bird
#4. Dirk
#5. KD
#6. Reggie Miller
#7. Klay
#8. Kyle Korver
#9. Klay Thompson
#10. Petrovic


You have Klay listed twice. I would suggest Price also.
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#26 » by mdonnelly1989 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:18 am

Cavsfansince84 wrote:
mdonnelly1989 wrote:
At least your objective. My all time 10 perimeter shooting goes like this

#1: Curry


#2. Ray Allen
#3. Larry Bird
#4. Dirk
#5. KD
#6. Reggie Miller
#7. Klay
#8. Kyle Korver
#9. Klay Thompson
#10. Petrovic


You have Klay listed twice. I would suggest Price also.


Steve Nash at #9
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Post#27 » by capfan33 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:42 am

mdonnelly1989 wrote:
capfan33 wrote:
mdonnelly1989 wrote:
Would you take KD over Klay Thompson as a shooter. Strictly in terms of shooting, nothing else.


KDs better from mid-range and off the dribble, Klay's better from 3. How you balance those 2 things IDK. And the split between mid-range and 3 as well as off the catch vs pull-ups makes comparing shooters quite difficult IMO.


At least your objective. My all time 10 perimeter shooting goes like this

#1: Curry


#2. Ray Allen
#3. Larry Bird
#4. Dirk
#5. KD
#6. Reggie Miller
#7. Klay
#8. Kyle Korver
#9. Klay Thompson
#10. Petrovic


While conventional wisdom has Ray Allen #2 often I actually don't know if I would put him there. I think considering era and the playoffs I'd rather have Reggie or Dirk, prob Bird as well over him. But yea, those are the usual suspects you'd have on a list. Also would have West rather than Petrovic or maybe MJ.
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#28 » by HeartBreakKid » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:11 am

capfan33 wrote:
mdonnelly1989 wrote:
capfan33 wrote:
KDs better from mid-range and off the dribble, Klay's better from 3. How you balance those 2 things IDK. And the split between mid-range and 3 as well as off the catch vs pull-ups makes comparing shooters quite difficult IMO.


At least your objective. My all time 10 perimeter shooting goes like this

#1: Curry


#2. Ray Allen
#3. Larry Bird
#4. Dirk
#5. KD
#6. Reggie Miller
#7. Klay
#8. Kyle Korver
#9. Klay Thompson
#10. Petrovic


While conventional wisdom has Ray Allen #2 often I actually don't know if I would put him there. I think considering era and the playoffs I'd rather have Reggie or Dirk, prob Bird as well over him. But yea, those are the usual suspects you'd have on a list. Also would have West rather than Petrovic or maybe MJ.



Ray Allen being #2 is based on volume of 3 pointers made. There isn't much wisdom in saying he's the 2nd best shooter of all time. Looking at his stats hes pretty clearly not.
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#29 » by 70sFan » Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:52 am

mdonnelly1989 wrote:Lets revisit this question after next season. My estimate is that these numbers will begin to work more favorly in KDs favor as his longevity continues to grow and the furthur away from Dr.Js career we get.

Durant doesn't have longeity advantage over Julius.
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#30 » by Jaivl » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:04 am

HeartBreakKid wrote:
capfan33 wrote:
mdonnelly1989 wrote:
At least your objective. My all time 10 perimeter shooting goes like this

#1: Curry


#2. Ray Allen
#3. Larry Bird
#4. Dirk
#5. KD
#6. Reggie Miller
#7. Klay
#8. Kyle Korver
#9. Klay Thompson
#10. Petrovic


While conventional wisdom has Ray Allen #2 often I actually don't know if I would put him there. I think considering era and the playoffs I'd rather have Reggie or Dirk, prob Bird as well over him. But yea, those are the usual suspects you'd have on a list. Also would have West rather than Petrovic or maybe MJ.



Ray Allen being #2 is based on volume of 3 pointers made. There isn't much wisdom in saying he's the 2nd best shooter of all time. Looking at his stats hes pretty clearly not.

And Larry Bird being #3 is based on _
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#31 » by mdonnelly1989 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:49 pm

Jaivl wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:
capfan33 wrote:
While conventional wisdom has Ray Allen #2 often I actually don't know if I would put him there. I think considering era and the playoffs I'd rather have Reggie or Dirk, prob Bird as well over him. But yea, those are the usual suspects you'd have on a list. Also would have West rather than Petrovic or maybe MJ.



Ray Allen being #2 is based on volume of 3 pointers made. There isn't much wisdom in saying he's the 2nd best shooter of all time. Looking at his stats hes pretty clearly not.

And Larry Bird being #3 is based on _


Being a really great 3P shooter in an ERA that didn't practice 3's. His perimeter shooting was lights out when perimeter shooting especially from the 3 was almost unheard of...
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#32 » by OhayoKD » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:09 pm

depends on how you weigh dr j's aba years i feel, cause he was clearly the best player in the aba for a bit. There was probably apoint where you could argue he was the best player in both leagues
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Re: Will KD surpass Dr.J by the end of his career? 

Post#33 » by OhayoKD » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:12 pm

mdonnelly1989 wrote:
Jaivl wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:

Ray Allen being #2 is based on volume of 3 pointers made. There isn't much wisdom in saying he's the 2nd best shooter of all time. Looking at his stats hes pretty clearly not.

And Larry Bird being #3 is based on _


Being a really great 3P shooter in an ERA that didn't practice 3's. His perimeter shooting was lights out when perimeter shooting especially from the 3 was almost unheard of...

it was lights out for his era(though price/reggie were better), pretty weak by modern standards. Not sure how you can put him above reggie as a shooter when reggie was a better scorer overall

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