Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?

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Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time? 

Post#21 » by sp6r=underrated » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:03 am

Not saying this to be bean but Melo won't be remembered outside of the hardcore. The NBA scorers list isn't really that famous to casuals outside of #1. I remember Alex English being top 10 and he wasn't discussed much when he held that spot.

Melo didn't play on memorable teams, wasn't an ATG highlight player (despite being fun to watch), not really much a playoff marker. Nor was he a trailblazer instead he'll be seen as the prototype for a forgotten type of player. He'll disappear pretty quickly.
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Post#22 » by ellobo » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:13 am

For all of you who hate the three point shot and the pace and space (r)evolution, Carmelo is your modern platonic ideal.

Instead of playing 4 or 5 out and spread pick and roll, let's go back to illegal defense rules so teams can dump it in to iso players and let them cook.

Carmelo is a tragic hero born too late for his own golden age.
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Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time? 

Post#24 » by jazzfan1971 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:06 am

Nice scorer. Didn't make his teams that much better. I think he's been over-rated his entire career. Because folks think points=how good. If more people thought ability to help team win = how good, his ranking would be much much lower.
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Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time? 

Post#25 » by anatomicbomb » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:25 am

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Ein Sof wrote:He's already viewed as a GOAT-level player so I don't see how it possibly could


By whomst?



if we go alphabetical he's up there
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Post#26 » by Bob Ross » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:34 am

Probably not. People that don't grow up seeing prime Melo play will just look at stats and YouTube clips. Most guys lose value/legacy in tye minds of new generations of fans. Sh*t, we have a thread asking why Larry Bird won 3 MVPs
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Post#27 » by knuckles862 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:35 am

I feel like Melo gets a bad wrap. Most of the guys you mentioned played with good players for a long stretch. Melo robin for 80% of his career was Jr Smith what was he supposed to do with that?
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Post#28 » by hugepatsfan » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:41 am

Melo was one of those guys who was a great volume scorer but wasn’t efficient enough to ever be a #1 guy for a winner. At the same time, he didn’t do anything else well enough to really be a good #2 or #3. Kind of stuck in no man’s land.

Incredible talent but never a really ideal fit in a winning team’s framework.
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Post#29 » by TheSheriff » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:47 am

Did Dominique Wilkins reputation improve with time?
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Post#30 » by CoachD » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:47 am

If you look at their stats side by side.... it's hard to tell the difference between Melo and Adrian Dantley

And nobody talks about Dantley as an all time great
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Post#31 » by Prospect Dong » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:49 am

knuckles862 wrote:I feel like Melo gets a bad wrap. Most of the guys you mentioned played with good players for a long stretch. Melo robin for 80% of his career was Jr Smith what was he supposed to do with that?


JR was maybe the fifth best player on those Nuggets teams. Don't confuse scoring for impact...
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Post#32 » by thebigbird » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:50 am

Ein Sof wrote:He's already viewed as a GOAT-level player so I don't see how it possibly could

Maybe by himself, but no one else views him that way. He chose the money over winning. That’s fine, but that’s what he’ll be remembered as.
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Post#33 » by Stan » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:52 am

You'd have to be insane to take Melo over PG or Butler. Also, lol at listing 3 gold medals and an NCAA title as relevant accolades, like virtually any player in the league wouldn't have been able to replace him on those Olympic teams.
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Post#34 » by toodles23 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:53 am

ellobo wrote:For all of you who hate the three point shot and the pace and space (r)evolution, Carmelo is your modern platonic ideal.

Instead of playing 4 or 5 out and spread pick and roll, let's go back to illegal defense rules so teams can dump it in to iso players and let them cook.

Carmelo is a tragic hero born too late for his own golden age.

I think he would have been better if he came into the league today, because he would been informed that passing to open teammates instead of shooting over the top of double teams is good, and that iso jab stepping into contested long 2s is poor offense. He came in at the worst possible time to maximize his talents.

His player archetype of high volume scorer at mediocre efficiency who doesn't create for teammates or play defense is pretty much dead because coaches just don't tolerate that stuff anymore. It's ingrained into guys from the very beginning these days that being able to pass is extremely important, whereas back when Melo was growing up shooting over double teams and hunting for your own shot at the expense of passing was much more accepted. And the frustrating thing is, Melo actually had pretty good playmaking talent on the rare occasions he decided to use it, but for the most part he decided he'd rather be a one dimensional inefficient scorer.
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Post#35 » by Calamity_Cometh » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:03 am

Would love to see peak Melo in this NBA in the playoffs.
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Post#36 » by BrownBearKing » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:05 am

I think he’ll be forgotten. Forever in the shadow of LeBron and Wade and played in a worse market. His tenure in NY wasn’t great because…Knicks. And everything after that was lackluster.
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Post#37 » by Nate505 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:07 am

Probably not. His legacy is forcing his way out of a decent team that made the WCF to a team he led that did jack and ****.
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Post#38 » by TheGOATWill » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:08 am

Legacy and the extremely volatile opinion of people who misuse the term legacy are two very different things.
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Post#39 » by SomeBunghole » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:10 am

On top of all the other issues listed above, Carmello's legacy is hurt by the fact that he isn't "a legend" at any NBA team. He is very unlikely to have his jersey retired by anyone, and he has no realistic claim to be any franchise's all time great. There will be no fanbase keeping his legacy alive.
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Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time? 

Post#40 » by DrCoach » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:13 am

He will have 30K points when its all said and done, he is a mid range beast

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