McMenanim: Belief that Durant trade demand was to force Nets to get rid of Kyrie

Pointgod · Post #41 » by **Pointgod** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:34 am

Lol people around the league are stupid if they believe this is some kind of 5 dimensional chess. If Durant wanted Kyrie off the Nets, which he should absolutely want, all he has to do is go to the owner or Sean Marks and say trade this ****. That Lakers trade would have been done very quickly. They’d move Kyrie for 10 cents on the dollar if it meant keeping Durant happy. This theory makes zero sense

Post #42 » by **dockingsched** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:05 am

Pointgod wrote:Lol people around the league are stupid if they believe this is some kind of 5 dimensional chess. If Durant wanted Kyrie off the Nets, which he should absolutely want, all he has to do is go to the owner or Sean Marks and say trade this ****. That Lakers trade would have been done very quickly. They’d move Kyrie for 10 cents on the dollar if it meant keeping Durant happy. This theory makes zero sense

It’s a tough spot for KD considering Kyrie is most likely still his friend that he cares about. Just cause he doesn’t think continuing as teammates is in his best interest doesn’t mean he just wants to drag Kyrie and be the one that forced him out.

Instead he’s biting the bullet and removing himself from the partnership, and if the Nets decide on their own they want to move Kyrie, then that’s a decision they need to make on their own. KD wants to divorce Kyrie on the court while still being his friend off of it.

TinmanZBoy · Post #43 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:20 am

dockingsched wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Lol people around the league are stupid if they believe this is some kind of 5 dimensional chess. If Durant wanted Kyrie off the Nets, which he should absolutely want, all he has to do is go to the owner or Sean Marks and say trade this ****. That Lakers trade would have been done very quickly. They’d move Kyrie for 10 cents on the dollar if it meant keeping Durant happy. This theory makes zero sense

It’s a tough spot for KD considering Kyrie is most likely still his friend that he cares about. Just cause he doesn’t think continuing as teammates is in his best interest doesn’t mean he just wants to drag Kyrie and be the one that forced him out.

Instead he’s biting the bullet and removing himself from the partnership, and if the Nets decide on their own they want to move Kyrie, then that’s a decision they need to make on their own. KD wants to divorce Kyrie on the court while still being his friend off of it.

The Syracuse dudes are drama queens

MotownMadness · Post #44 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:34 am

Riiiiigggghhht

Ballerhogger · Post #45 » by **Ballerhogger** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:14 am

I highly doubt that

Post #46 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:28 am

dockingsched wrote:
Karate Diop wrote:I feel like people are just throwing things at the wall and seeing if they'll stick... This goes against everything we know about KD and Kyrie's relationship, which is inexplicably strong

Right now all we know is that 3 days after Kyrie opted into his contract to stay with the Nets, KD demanded a trade out of Brooklyn.

We don’t know why KD demanded a trade, but a trade demand tells us he’s prepared to continue his career separate from Kyrie.

Durant seemed to request the trade after the Nets were reported to have not offered Kyrie an extension. This then spurred rumors of Kyrie being shopped, specifically to the Lakers IIRC but I don't know how legit they were, however I think that was likely the reason.

Basically something like: "dont get rid of Kyrie, who was a big point of me coming here, and if you do then you will have to trade me because you deceived me about what we were building here"

BostonCouchGM · Post #47 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:35 am

The trade request was always just to have his friends back. It’s a dumb way to go about of course. Since there were no takers KD will be just fine staying in BK trying to win one last year with Kyrie. Knowing how dumb NBA owners are, Tsai will probably relent and sign Kyrie to a three year extension mid-season

Myth · Post #48 » by **Myth** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:40 am

celticfan42487 wrote:That seems stupid.

1) It erodes players trust with KD
2) If getting rid of Irving means Westbrook and nothing else it slams shut the door on KD ever winning a ring again.

This doesn't pass the sniff test.

I agree that it feels bogus, but regarding point 2, it theoretically could be he wanted to get away from one way or another, whether it is KD actually traded or seeing what Nets get back for Kyrie. Essentially these become the possible outcomes:
-If Kyrie stays the trade request stays real
-if Durant likes the return Nets get for Kyrie he withdraws the request
-If Durant does not like the return for Kyrie (including the landing of Westbrook option you mentioned) the request stays real
-If Durant gets traded before anything is decided regarding Irving, he’s happy with that too

Either way, it pushes for a change, whether that is within the Nets or to a new team (of which he is leveraging which ones he’d like to go to).

FrobeBryant · Post #49 » by **FrobeBryant** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:46 am

I always thought KD wanted out cause Kyrie may’ve signaled he was going to the Lakers after this season and not signing an extension. KD didn’t want to play with Simmons alone and wanted to bail. Mcmenamins version seems pretty farfetched considering how close KD and Kyrie are.

EH15 · Post #50 » by **EH15** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:52 am

McMenanin is the real Lebron jock sniffer that the world thinks Windy is. He is useless.

lonzo_pelota · Post #51 » by **lonzo_pelota** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:53 am

They'll get over it. Getting swept by two younger all stars in the way that they did left a bad taste on last season. Some say time heals most nba wounds but, this one is crazy fresh still. Give it some time or a blockbuster trade one or the other

Apz · Post #52 » by **Apz** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:53 am

Think its correct. KD might very well went to marks and said he wanted kyrie gone, but nets already had looked around and the only available were the westbrook deal and nets dont want him. 2 guards that cant shoot?Would be a disaster. I just dont see takers for kyrie and the drama. Wouldnt surprise me ifhe is out of the league next offseason if lebron leaves lakers.

no dice · Post #53 » by **no dice** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:08 am

Next week its gonna be actually Kyrie's trade demand was to get KD out of Brooklyn in the first place so KD retaliates

Darren · Post #54 » by **Darren** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:00 am

I think KD wants to land in GS. I think the problem is not merely Kyrie not playing but Simmons getting big pay as well. If the cap is like this, it's difficult to build any team.

danvato · Post #55 » by **danvato** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:01 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:That seems stupid.

1) It erodes players trust with KD
2) If getting rid of Irving means Westbrook and nothing else it slams shut the door on KD ever winning a ring again.

This doesn't pass the sniff test.

How can a Celtics fan say something this moronic. Wasn't your entire fanbase screaming what a cancer Kyrie is and how replacing him with nothing is a blessing? All Kyrie teams win more when he doesn't play, conclusion, KD will never win a ring without Kyrie, logic, perfect.

danvato · Post #56 » by **danvato** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:04 pm

Crives wrote:We only know two things:
KD has requested trade, has not changed stance
KD has requested trade to phx

KD did not give public explanation. Maybe he explained to nets and nets have reason for pretending they don’t know, or maybe he didn’t tell them a reason

bwaahaaha, love it, MVP of delusional posts in a fantasy thread.

danvato · Post #57 » by **danvato** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:05 pm

Crives wrote:
Jedi32 wrote:
Crives wrote:
Yes phx or Miami from WOJ
But Haynes reported phx only, and others like Lowe said he wanted phx.

oh ok, but doesn't matching ayton hurt y'all chances of landing kd?

Doesn’t change much, Ayton really became a non option when Kyrie opted in. Phx would never have traded Ayton + Mikal + Cam + picks.

Sorry, this is the MVP

Crives · Post #58 » by **Crives** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:06 pm

danvato wrote:
Crives wrote:We only know two things:
KD has requested trade, has not changed stance
KD has requested trade to phx

KD did not give public explanation. Maybe he explained to nets and nets have reason for pretending they don’t know, or maybe he didn’t tell them a reason

bwaahaaha, love it, MVP of delusional posts in a fantasy thread.

You ok?

Crives · Post #59 » by **Crives** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:08 pm

danvato wrote:
Crives wrote:
Jedi32 wrote:oh ok, but doesn't matching ayton hurt y'all chances of landing kd?

Doesn’t change much, Ayton really became a non option when Kyrie opted in. Phx would never have traded Ayton + Mikal + Cam + picks.

Sorry, this is the MVP

Kevin is 34 and has played 90 games in three seasons.
There is a reason nobody is willing to offer a “historic” haul.. doesn’t mean he won’t get a good return

Post #60 » by **Harry Garris** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:09 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:I don't know what to believe anymore. We've heard reports that KD did this to pressure Brooklyn into giving Kyrie an extension, now we're hearing the very opposite. This doesn't make sense to me though, because if KD told management and ownership that he would rescind his demand if Kyrie was traded, Kyrie would be gone right now.

Despite the way that this post was worded, McMenamin wasn't reporting this he was just theorizing one possibility that could be true and said that it wasn't sourced at all. It definitely seems hard to believe.