Official ALL THINGS "2022/23 NETS" Thread

[MrDollarBills]

Dont forget that Harden already established that these stars don't care about demanding trades in back 2 back seasons. No one would be shocked if KD demanded a trade next off-season.

Minnesota could comfortably give up 5 picks for Gobert because they know he'll be professional no matter what. KD might check out the second things get rough.

Great point. Harden did basically something that I don't recall any player ever doing. If KD feels so emboldened to just bail on a team before his extension even kicks in, especially a team here who has gone well into the luxury tax and has by all means a very good cast on paper, what's to say he wouldn't want out on his next stop too?

The players are going to get locked out over this.

Whether Twitter world or any other social media platform wants to admit it or not, the Nets FO have finally been the first team to step up to its stars and remove player empowerment. Moving forward, this will be the standard. Kudos to Marks! Screw the haters

I'm not against "player empowerment". If guys want to go somewhere else, or team up with other stars, there's nothing wrong with it.

If Durant was one year out from free agency and told the team that he wants a change, fine. But before the even ink even dries on his 4 year contract?

Ben refusing to play for the Sixers while a trade was being searched out?

Kyrie refusing to do what he had to do to comply with state law and make himself available to the team?

Harden basically quitting on two teams in two straight seasons?

That isn't player empowerment. That's just guys just starting fires and leaving other people to put them out.

[Papi_swav]

Great point. Harden did basically something that I don't recall any player ever doing. If KD feels so emboldened to just bail on a team before his extension even kicks in, especially a team here who has gone well into the luxury tax and has by all means a very good cast on paper, what's to say he wouldn't want out on his next stop too?

The players are going to get locked out over this.

Whether Twitter world or any other social media platform wants to admit it or not, the Nets FO have finally been the first team to step up to its stars and remove player empowerment. Moving forward, this will be the standard. Kudos to Marks! Screw the haters

I'm not against "player empowerment". If guys want to go somewhere else, or team up with other stars, there's nothing wrong with it.

If Durant was one year out from free agency and told the team that he wants a change, fine. But before the even ink even dries on his 4 year contract?

Ben refusing to play for the Sixers while a trade was being searched out?

Kyrie refusing to do what he had to do to comply with state law and make himself available to the team?

Harden basically quitting on two teams in two straight seasons?

That isn't player empowerment. That's just guys just starting fires and leaving other people to put them out.

Exactly, bingo ! this has gotten waaaaayyyyy outta hand. These guys are acting like spoiled children and it's hilarious how ppl can't even see it. These guys let a whole franchise trade their whole future for them, catered to them in everyway possible, gave them the keys to run the whole ship. Now that that ship is missing one little piece these guys is jumping off. They can't handle adversity, they can't handle the pressure. They can't handle NY ! Just imagine if this was the Knicks, the media would of crucified them 10x worse . And they probably would of been .... that S word I don't want to use but it rhymes with shoe in bridal .

[Fallout_3]

I would try Micic as a backup PG. OKC has his rights. He's a proven winner who can actually run an offense.

I'd be all for that. The Nets still have their mid-level to use to sign him too so it definitely works in theory. What do you think it would take to get his rights from OKC?

A couple of 2nd maybe? 2nd + cash? I don't really know. Micic don't wanna play in OKC, that's for sure. Our mid level could fit with him.

[Born_Ready]

I would try Micic as a backup PG. OKC has his rights. He's a proven winner who can actually run an offense.

I'd be all for that. The Nets still have their mid-level to use to sign him too so it definitely works in theory. What do you think it would take to get his rights from OKC?

A couple of 2nd maybe? 2nd + cash? I don't really know. Micic don't wanna play in OKC, that's for sure. Our mid level could fit with him.

Oklahoma City knows the type of talent that Micic has and they aren't just gunna let him go for crumbs. I think Presti understands his value and how much he might be coveted around the league. With him pushing 30 ( I believe) I'm not saying the Thunder don't trade him, I just think they might be asking for a bit more than expected. Just my .02 cents worth.

[Packers+NetsWIN]

I'd be all for that. The Nets still have their mid-level to use to sign him too so it definitely works in theory. What do you think it would take to get his rights from OKC?

A couple of 2nd maybe? 2nd + cash? I don't really know. Micic don't wanna play in OKC, that's for sure. Our mid level could fit with him.

Oklahoma City knows the type of talent that Micic has and they aren't just gunna let him go for crumbs. I think Presti understands his value and how much he might be coveted around the league. With him pushing 30 ( I believe) I'm not saying the Thunder don't trade him, I just think they might be asking for a bit more than expected. Just my .02 cents worth.

Well I'd be hesitant to give up any of the younger Nets like Sharpe or Cam for him, maybe a protected first then?

[MGrand15]

Dave McMenamin on The Lowe Post: "There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn't actually about him getting out of Brooklyn, it was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

Weird rumor.

I'm not saying it's impossible but I think this news tells me that KD isn't communicating with anyone about his future - so teams are getting bored and speculating. It also doesn't make sense for KD to not expand his list when Phoenix is basically out of the running and Miami has nothing good to give up. If he really wants out, the league should know what other teams he'd consider at least.

[MrDollarBills]

Dave McMenamin on The Lowe Post: "There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn't actually about him getting out of Brooklyn, it was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

Weird rumor.

I'm not saying it's impossible but I think this news tells me that KD isn't communicating with anyone about his future - so teams are getting bored and speculating. It also doesn't make sense for KD to not expand his list when Phoenix is basically out of the running and Miami has nothing good to give up. If he really wants out, the league should know what other teams he'd consider at least.

While speaking on The Lowe Post, ESPN's Dave McMenamin said that Kevin Durant's trade request might not have really been about leaving Brooklyn. Instead, Durant might have been trying to motivate the Nets to move his star teammate instead.

"There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn’t actually about him getting out of Brooklyn," McMenamin said. "It was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

The sense is that Durant has tired of Irving's unreliability and would welcome Irving being traded. To this point, Durant has only asked the Nets for a trade with few details as to why he wants to be traded. Durant is starting Year 1 of a four-year, $197.6 million extension this upcoming season.

I'm going to need Malika Andrews' boyfriend to expound on what this means.

Is KD that gutless that he'd go through a huge charade to get Kyrie out of here? He literally could have texted Joe and said that Kyrie needs to go. I highly doubt either Marks or Tsai would be averse to shipping Kyrie out.

I think this is bullsh*t personally.

[Shark]

Dave McMenamin on The Lowe Post: "There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn't actually about him getting out of Brooklyn, it was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

Weird rumor.

I'm not saying it's impossible but I think this news tells me that KD isn't communicating with anyone about his future - so teams are getting bored and speculating. It also doesn't make sense for KD to not expand his list when Phoenix is basically out of the running and Miami has nothing good to give up. If he really wants out, the league should know what other teams he'd consider at least.

While speaking on The Lowe Post, ESPN's Dave McMenamin said that Kevin Durant's trade request might not have really been about leaving Brooklyn. Instead, Durant might have been trying to motivate the Nets to move his star teammate instead.

"There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn’t actually about him getting out of Brooklyn," McMenamin said. "It was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

The sense is that Durant has tired of Irving's unreliability and would welcome Irving being traded. To this point, Durant has only asked the Nets for a trade with few details as to why he wants to be traded. Durant is starting Year 1 of a four-year, $197.6 million extension this upcoming season.

I'm going to need Malika Andrews' boyfriend to expound on what this means.

Is KD that gutless that he'd go through a huge charade to get Kyrie out of here? He literally could have texted Joe and said that Kyrie needs to go. I highly doubt either Marks or Tsai would be averse to shipping Kyrie out.

I think this is bullsh*t personally.

Yeah this sounds like more spin of someone in KD's camp trying to save face. I'm supposed to believe that KD is now tired of Kyrie after continually kicking back and watching the **** Kyrie created without lifting a finger to try and change things? Yeah, OK, that's totally believable

[3pt_chucker]

Dave McMenamin on The Lowe Post: "There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn't actually about him getting out of Brooklyn, it was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

Weird rumor.

I'm not saying it's impossible but I think this news tells me that KD isn't communicating with anyone about his future - so teams are getting bored and speculating. It also doesn't make sense for KD to not expand his list when Phoenix is basically out of the running and Miami has nothing good to give up. If he really wants out, the league should know what other teams he'd consider at least.

While speaking on The Lowe Post, ESPN's Dave McMenamin said that Kevin Durant's trade request might not have really been about leaving Brooklyn. Instead, Durant might have been trying to motivate the Nets to move his star teammate instead.

"There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn’t actually about him getting out of Brooklyn," McMenamin said. "It was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

The sense is that Durant has tired of Irving's unreliability and would welcome Irving being traded. To this point, Durant has only asked the Nets for a trade with few details as to why he wants to be traded. Durant is starting Year 1 of a four-year, $197.6 million extension this upcoming season.

I'm going to need Malika Andrews' boyfriend to expound on what this means.

Is KD that gutless that he'd go through a huge charade to get Kyrie out of here? He literally could have texted Joe and said that Kyrie needs to go. I highly doubt either Marks or Tsai would be averse to shipping Kyrie out.

I think this is bullsh*t personally.

Nah, this is a shooting the s*** kinda rumor from other executives who know nothing. I won't believe it for a second unless KD himself says it or something drastic happens.

Plus KD was seen working out with Kyrie after the trade request.

[Kampuchea]

“School of thought” aka fabricated nonsense.

If KD wanted Kyrie gone you’d think they’d already push a Kyrie trade through and go on with KD and Simmons. Not believing that story at all.

[MGrand15]

Dave McMenamin on The Lowe Post: "There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn't actually about him getting out of Brooklyn, it was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

Weird rumor.

I'm not saying it's impossible but I think this news tells me that KD isn't communicating with anyone about his future - so teams are getting bored and speculating. It also doesn't make sense for KD to not expand his list when Phoenix is basically out of the running and Miami has nothing good to give up. If he really wants out, the league should know what other teams he'd consider at least.

While speaking on The Lowe Post, ESPN's Dave McMenamin said that Kevin Durant's trade request might not have really been about leaving Brooklyn. Instead, Durant might have been trying to motivate the Nets to move his star teammate instead.

"There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn’t actually about him getting out of Brooklyn," McMenamin said. "It was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

The sense is that Durant has tired of Irving's unreliability and would welcome Irving being traded. To this point, Durant has only asked the Nets for a trade with few details as to why he wants to be traded. Durant is starting Year 1 of a four-year, $197.6 million extension this upcoming season.

I'm going to need Malika Andrews' boyfriend to expound on what this means.

Is KD that gutless that he'd go through a huge charade to get Kyrie out of here? He literally could have texted Joe and said that Kyrie needs to go. I highly doubt either Marks or Tsai would be averse to shipping Kyrie out.

I think this is bullsh*t personally.

I don't believe it either but

KD has proven to be gutless. Over and over again. Maybe more than any star in NBA history.

I do believe he's tired of playing with Kyrie though. There's no way you could have a front seat to the Kyrie show the last 3 years and think he's gonna get it together for a drama free, injury free championship run.

[GTR11]

Dave McMenamin on The Lowe Post: "There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn't actually about him getting out of Brooklyn, it was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

Weird rumor.

I'm not saying it's impossible but I think this news tells me that KD isn't communicating with anyone about his future - so teams are getting bored and speculating. It also doesn't make sense for KD to not expand his list when Phoenix is basically out of the running and Miami has nothing good to give up. If he really wants out, the league should know what other teams he'd consider at least.

He definitely backtracking and his trade demands were never realistic. He definitely got pissed that Marks fired his boy toy and acted out like a spoiled child. When he realized what affects it took, he now trying to save his face. Instead of coming out and cleaning weather with FO he again doing dumb things, typical Kyrie stuff but i guess we had no clue who KD realy is.

In all this, don't make no mistake, owners and Silver will come out victorious. All because 4 spoiled cry babies being narcissists. NBAPA better get some real good lawyers, this one will get ugly for them.

[GTR11]

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I was punching air for a good min . As unpopular as it will sound, we wouldn't be facing this issue with Blake on the roster. Just quick reminder what Steve Trash did

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[GTR11]

In other news. We all Nets fans, just don't say some of us didn't warn about about this

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Thinking Kyrie won't be Kyrie is ludicrous. I'm not coprehending what Marks doing at all, i know he's a GM and be in contact with them. It's just like he dismisses why and what led to it.

His camp will still be leaking sh** to this clown on top of sh** we already have to endure.

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[MrDollarBills]

In other news. We all Nets fans, just don't say some of us didn't warn about about this

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Thinking Kyrie won't be Kyrie is ludicrous. I'm not coprehending what Marks doing at all, i know he's a GM and be in contact with them. It's just like he dismisses why and what led to it.

His camp will still be leaking sh** to this clown on top of sh** we already have to endure.

F*ck Kyrie. The only changes that need to happen is to his attitude

[MrDollarBills]

Dave McMenamin on The Lowe Post: "There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn't actually about him getting out of Brooklyn, it was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

Weird rumor.

I'm not saying it's impossible but I think this news tells me that KD isn't communicating with anyone about his future - so teams are getting bored and speculating. It also doesn't make sense for KD to not expand his list when Phoenix is basically out of the running and Miami has nothing good to give up. If he really wants out, the league should know what other teams he'd consider at least.

He definitely backtracking and his trade demands were never realistic. He definitely got pissed that Marks fired his boy toy and acted out like a spoiled child. When he realized what affects it took, he now trying to save his face. Instead of coming out and cleaning weather with FO he again doing dumb things, typical Kyrie stuff but i guess we had no clue who KD realy is.

In all this, don't make no mistake, owners and Silver will come out victorious. All because 4 spoiled cry babies being narcissists. NBAPA better get some real good lawyers, this one will get ugly for them.

Yep. NBA players had it good with those super guaranteed contracts. If I'm an owner and I see what these 4 idiots have done I'm not budging until nullification clauses are put into these contracts. You shouldn't be getting paid while refusing to play. Teams should be able to take it to arbitration and either the player honors his contract or the deal gets nullified. Have fun finding a team that can pay you max dollars in the middle of the season.

CJ McCollum better start telling the rookies and mid to vet min guys to start putting cash away. It's crazy to think how little Harden, KD, Ben and Kyrie care that they're about to f*ck over other players.

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As a fan of labor rights and the underdog, it pains me to say it, but the CBA lockout cannot come soon enough.

I've no particular sympathy for the owners, for a variety of nefarious reasons of their own doing, but I hope they lock out the players long and hard, and this insane entitlement of egomaniac stars somehow gets addressed.

Maybe stricter contract language about what's expected from players in order to get paid, that sort of thing. For example, the team doesn't have to play 'bad guy' if a player refuses to play (ala Simmons in PHI), or refuses to do the job the coaches ask him to. Make it league-wide, with harsher penalties that automatically kick in so that any particular franchise doesn't have to take the heat for rightly trying to get their stars to behave responsibly and play team ball. Maybe have the league office take more of the heat so that franchises (especially small market) don't get screwed so much.

Probably some pie-in-the-sky dreams right there, but a lad can hope...
a lad can hope.

Meanwhile, at the other end of the spectrum, it's insane to me how the wealthy have turned so many jobs across the country in to wage-slave situations, meanwhile being fully allowed to shamelessly bribe legislature to remove oversight and penalties that would otherwise prevent the rampant mistreatment of workers like this.

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As a fan of labor rights and the underdog, it pains me to say it, but the CBA lockout cannot come soon enough.

I've no particular sympathy for the owners, for a variety of nefarious reasons of their own doing, but I hope they lock out the players long and hard, and this insane entitlement of egomaniac stars somehow gets addressed.

Maybe stricter contract language about what's expected from players in order to get paid, that sort of thing. For example, the team doesn't have to play 'bad guy' if a player refuses to play (ala Simmons in PHI), or refuses to do the job the coaches ask him to. Make it league-wide, with harsher penalties that automatically kick in so that any particular franchise doesn't have to take the heat for rightly trying to get their stars to behave responsibly and play team ball. Maybe have the league office take more of the heat so that franchises (especially small market) don't get screwed so much.

Probably some pie-in-the-sky dreams right there, but a lad can hope...
a lad can hope.

Meanwhile, at the other end of the spectrum, it's insane to me how the wealthy have turned so many jobs across the country in to wage-slave situations, meanwhile being fully allowed to shamelessly bribe legislature to remove oversight and penalties that would otherwise prevent the rampant mistreatment of workers like this.

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We only had one debate where our opinions differ, other than that i agreed with you 99% of the time. I'm also heavy pro labor and tweets like that piss me off. What piss me off even more, is when guys like Kyrie betray us.

I've said it multiple times, I'll repeat it again. I want to cheer for Kyrie and want us to be successful. Him being local guy and a fan growing up would've made huge impact and made all of us happy. Instead, he does everything to derail what we stand for.

[JoseRizal]

What puzzles me tbh is why ownership and FO hasn't sat down with both KD & Kyrie and their reps? Because the longer this persists, the more difficult it is for us to decipher what's gonna happen come training camp. We're losing potential FA's and buy-out candidates, and we're not even sure what will be the make-up of this team come opening night. There is so much drama and uncertainty, which is worse than Dwightmare and Melodrama. This is sickening as a fan!