NBA Summer League 2022

[kulaz3000]

Unpopular opinion:

First off, I love Presti. I think he’s the best GM out there. I like most of the OKC kids like SGA, Holmgren (i had him #1 on my mock), Jalen Williams and Dieng.

But I do think Giddey is a sell high candidate. He averaged .25 3pt per game, 13ppg on 13 FGAs. Yes, he’s gonna MCW/Ben Simmons/Westbrook his way to a triple double but he’s not a PG that you can just give the ball and run the offense because of his average at best scoring ability and poor shooting ability.

Yes, Giddey can be better. Maybe he becomes Doncic next week. But its very likely he’ll never be a good scorer and shooter that is just gonna hurt your team’s offense at the PG position

Absolutely agree. I love him as a player, but he is likely to be more Ricky Rubio than someone like Doncic. And that's not a bad thing, he will have a place in this league, but unless he shows he can shooter better this season and perhaps next, you need to trade him while his value is high.

I don't think you can have a legitimate competitive team, without having your guards shoot the ball at a decent clip, no matter how good he is in other areas of the game.

We’ve seen this movie before.

Thunders will eventually be good. Giddey will facilitate and get the ball to their scorers like SGA and Holmgren.

But once they go to deep in the playoffs and face teams who load up on switchable defenders or elite lengthy with athleticism defenders (see Wiggins against Tatum), their scorers will struggle. Possibly Giddey’s man sagging off him and even be a permanent help defender. Then they’d look for a guy who can help their scorers get better shots, a guard who can run 2 man game generate switching to the weak defender or collapse the defense and kicking it out to shooters.

Once they realize that, they’ll be so exposed that other teams wont value Giddey as much as the teams value him right now.

Yep, who knows though. Lonzo Ball out of nowhere become a really good 3 point shooter, which I would have never expected, so there is still hope yet.

[Adg1987]

Well earned MVP. Played every game except one and was mostly the best player on court every game. Good performance

He wasn’t the best player against Orlando

You either did notread my post or are just fishing for praise for Paolo because of a summer league matchup

Well earned MVP. Played every game except one and was mostly the best player on court every game. Good performance

He wasn’t the best player against Orlando

I think when the original poster said “was mostly” he meant that game. But, Murray held his own.

I didn’t have any one game in mind. He had different games with cold streaks and inaction but he was the most consistent player on summer league. He was not playing with a good playmaker. Excited to see how he plays with guys that can get him good shots

[basketballRob]

Overreactions.

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[basketballRob]

Keegan's going to be great but don't run out and challenge a player at half-court unless you can back it up.

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[BlazersBroncos]

Absolutely agree. I love him as a player, but he is likely to be more Ricky Rubio than someone like Doncic. And that's not a bad thing, he will have a place in this league, but unless he shows he can shooter better this season and perhaps next, you need to trade him while his value is high.

I don't think you can have a legitimate competitive team, without having your guards shoot the ball at a decent clip, no matter how good he is in other areas of the game.

We’ve seen this movie before.

Thunders will eventually be good. Giddey will facilitate and get the ball to their scorers like SGA and Holmgren.

But once they go to deep in the playoffs and face teams who load up on switchable defenders or elite lengthy with athleticism defenders (see Wiggins against Tatum), their scorers will struggle. Possibly Giddey’s man sagging off him and even be a permanent help defender. Then they’d look for a guy who can help their scorers get better shots, a guard who can run 2 man game generate switching to the weak defender or collapse the defense and kicking it out to shooters.

Once they realize that, they’ll be so exposed that other teams wont value Giddey as much as the teams value him right now.

Yep, who knows though. Lonzo Ball out of nowhere become a really good 3 point shooter, which I would have never expected, so there is still hope yet.

You dont move a Sophmore, 19 year old Giddey because his shot is broke. Building out a shot is one of the most correctable traits in this game. The upside of waiting for him to develop a shot is easily worth the gamble that he never does.

He really just needs to get to 35% or so, hell I think even 32% leaves him as a net positive on offense.

[MemphisX]

Who knows?

I watch a lot of him and to say he "cant defend at all" is complete crap. In fact he's a real handful when he gets inside on defence because of how big and long he is.

He's a really underrated stealer and he's extremely tough and plays hard, despite his looks. It's the reason why he's a beast on the boards for a kid.

The stats don't lie.

Technically he was better on defencee than he was on offence

You watch him a lot and your conclusion is he is good at defense? Better even on defense than offense?

ok then.

I've given you plenty of evidence. Where's yours?

Just the vibe?

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[MotownMadness]

Overreactions.

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Good read

[MotownMadness]

Ivey is gonna be real nice but this is the guy the Pistons needed to pair with Cade

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[ORLMagicGirl15]

Ivey is gonna be real nice but this is the guy the Pistons needed to pair with Cade

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He went #1, Pistons had no chance at getting him in the draft.

[MotownMadness]

Ivey is gonna be real nice but this is the guy the Pistons needed to pair with Cade

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He went #1, Pistons had no chance at getting him in the draft.

Obviously im talking about if we won the lottery

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Ivey is gonna be real nice but this is the guy the Pistons needed to pair with Cade

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He went #1, Pistons had no chance at getting him in the draft.

Obviously im talking about if we won the lottery

Oh, gotcha.

[nikster]

You watch him a lot and your conclusion is he is good at defense? Better even on defense than offense?

ok then.

I've given you plenty of evidence. Where's yours?

Just the vibe?

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Haha crazy how much of an outlier he is with the no 3 and no D, but good at everything else. Interesting to see this kind of role player. Probably limits the ceiling of his impact. Not convinced he will develop a shot but could happen.

If he doesn't improve those weaknesses/ become an off nsl threat hes probably best running a 2nd unit

[Alonzo_Morning]

You watch him a lot and your conclusion is he is good at defense? Better even on defense than offense?

ok then.

I've given you plenty of evidence. Where's yours?

Just the vibe?

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If only this was easier to read

[Sark]

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Michael Jordan Summer League Pro-Am

[MotownMadness]

I've given you plenty of evidence. Where's yours?

Just the vibe?

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If only this was easier to read

Yeah i hate those charts, everyone is just piled on top of each other

[nikster]

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If only this was easier to read

Yeah i hate those charts, everyone is just piled on top of each other

I actually really like these charts, it's the outliers that are most interesting and they tend to be out of the pack and easy to identify

[MotownMadness]

If only this was easier to read

Yeah i hate those charts, everyone is just piled on top of each other

I actually really like these charts, it's the outliers that are most interesting and they tend to be out of the pack and easy to identify

Yeah its funny when you just see one face clearly on a island by himself

[basketballRob]

Giddey was one of the youngest players in the draft last season so I expect his shooting to get better.

Defensively I haven't watched him much but I've heard his best position to guard is PF. A front line of Chet and Giddey doesn't sound very imposing.

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[HotelVitale]

Absolutely agree. I love him as a player, but he is likely to be more Ricky Rubio than someone like Doncic. And that's not a bad thing, he will have a place in this league, but unless he shows he can shooter better this season and perhaps next, you need to trade him while his value is high.

I don't think you can have a legitimate competitive team, without having your guards shoot the ball at a decent clip, no matter how good he is in other areas of the game.

We’ve seen this movie before.

Thunders will eventually be good. Giddey will facilitate and get the ball to their scorers like SGA and Holmgren.

But once they go to deep in the playoffs and face teams who load up on switchable defenders or elite lengthy with athleticism defenders (see Wiggins against Tatum), their scorers will struggle. Possibly Giddey’s man sagging off him and even be a permanent help defender. Then they’d look for a guy who can help their scorers get better shots, a guard who can run 2 man game generate switching to the weak defender or collapse the defense and kicking it out to shooters.

Once they realize that, they’ll be so exposed that other teams wont value Giddey as much as the teams value him right now.

Yep, who knows though. Lonzo Ball out of nowhere become a really good 3 point shooter, which I would have never expected, so there is still hope yet.

Ball shot 41%+ on good volume in college and like 50% in HS, big reason he was a top-3 prospect that year. Form was weird but it fell at a very high level for years. Giddey shot sub-30% his pre-NBA year.

He could get there for sure--especially on his set shot type thing--but he's not starting with Ball's record.

[MemphisX]

I've given you plenty of evidence. Where's yours?

Just the vibe?

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Haha crazy how much of an outlier he is with the no 3 and no D, but good at everything else. Interesting to see this kind of role player. Probably limits the ceiling of his impact. Not convinced he will develop a shot but could happen.

If he doesn't improve those weaknesses/ become an off nsl threat hes probably best running a 2nd unit

And this was my point. I love Giddey and wanted him to fall to Memphis in the draft. He is probably the most elite at mapping the court I have ever seen and surpassing Jokic in this is quite the feat. I think his ultimate role on a championship team is akin to Magic on the Showtime Lakers where he defends the least threatening player on the opponents team and the rest of the team is built to cover his weakness while he adds hella value on the defensive boards.