Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?

[3toheadmelo]

At least we finally know RealGM has also a Carmelo burner

At least we finally know Marc Cuban has a burner on realgm

[xinxin]

He was always known as a selfish player, hardly played any defense..

Threw his teammates under the bus; couldn’t accept the fact that he’s no longer a starter (until he got bounced from the NBA ).

As of now, no rings; no MVPs.

BUT fortunately for him, his last 3 years as a guy coming off the bench has been a refreshing sight. He seems like a totally new person. Wishing he had this realization much earlier, would have definitely helped redefine his legacy a lot more.

Nonetheless, his legacy seems secure. He’s top 75 in the NBA & decades from now, his name will always be mentioned among the greats, whether RealGM likes it or not.


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[Swish1906]

Jokers first MVP allready sealed the deal that Anthony doesnt get the 15 retired in Denver. Never ever

[Chronz]

2008-09 Nuggets should have won the series vs the Lakers (they were much better in Game 1 and somehow lost this game, due to Carter inbound), then in Game 3 they lost close game again due to inbound. It was the only time Melo played on contender.

That's because he was the 2nd most productive player on the team that year as he actually put forth more effort than none on defense

[Chuck Everett]

Great regular season player. Could have been legendary if he gave a darn about being well-rounded. Chose La-La and the Knicks. Neither one ended well. Such is life.

[Chronz]

For all of you who hate the three point shot and the pace and space (r)evolution, Carmelo is your modern platonic ideal.

Instead of playing 4 or 5 out and spread pick and roll, let's go back to illegal defense rules so teams can dump it in to iso players and let them cook.

Carmelo is a tragic hero born too late for his own golden age.

I think he would have been better if he came into the league today, because he would been informed that passing to open teammates instead of shooting over the top of double teams is good, and that iso jab stepping into contested long 2s is poor offense. He came in at the worst possible time to maximize his talents.

His player archetype of high volume scorer at mediocre efficiency who doesn't create for teammates or play defense is pretty much dead because coaches just don't tolerate that stuff anymore. It's ingrained into guys from the very beginning these days that being able to pass is extremely important, whereas back when Melo was growing up shooting over double teams and hunting for your own shot at the expense of passing was much more accepted. And the frustrating thing is, Melo actually had pretty good playmaking talent on the rare occasions he decided to use it, but for the most part he decided he'd rather be a one dimensional inefficient scorer.

He sucked as a playmaker, that's why he preferred the jumpers. You're way off when you say his style of play was accepted. 2 of his hof coaches tried desperately to get him to pass more. He destroyed the relationship with both.

I vividly remember GK trying to get him to emulate Tmacs floor game, outright comparing the 2. DAntoni takes good playmakers and doubles their assists (harden thought he was crazy when he first suggested the possibility).

Melo had tunnel vision and for someone who didn't pass much, caught and shot, and settled for mid rangers, he had an unimpressive turnover rate.

[jokeboy86]

Great regular season player. Could have been legendary if he gave a darn about being well-rounded. Chose La-La and the Knicks. Neither one ended well. Such is life.

What's ironic is now the husband of one of La La's best friends now plays in Denver.

[Cavsfansince84]

Not significantly. Maybe slightly at most. It's not like he managed to win a title which would have eternally endeared him to a fanbase. I mean I know there's still some Knicks fans who love him but most understand he had his definite weaknesses as a player.

[Chronz]

It’s not about wanting to play for the Knicks. People are saying he “forced himself out” when he says he wanted to stay. But they wanted to rebuild instead of building off the WCF team. That’s his own words.

There is no indication they wanted to rebuild. They won 50, 47 (pro-rated for lockout and 57 games in the next 3 seasons after the Melo trade. They were still trying to win games.

Melo left because he wanted to live in NY. That's fine. The fans who think players have a duty to spend their lives in cities they don't want to live in are nuts. But at the same time there is no reason to allow a falsehood either. Everyone at the time knew this was about NYC. The direction of the Nuggets over the next 3 seasons shows it wasn't about a possible rebuild.

He wanted to live in NYC. Very reasonable. I'm stuck on the west coast right now and saving up to move back. I don't blame him

They only made the playoffs for 2 more seasons and then missed the playoffs for the next 5 years.
Nobody is denying he wanted NYC for multiple reasons. That was his main destination after he asked out of Denver because they wanted to rebuild.

They never wanted to rebuild, thats why they kept winning and making the loffs once they got rid of the alleged star on the team.

Melo forced his way to ny cuz he couldn't wait a few months to join them as a free agent without sacrificing big money.

Him tryna spin **** like this is just his way of tricking his fanatics.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

I watch the comparison board a lot and generally Carmelo Anthony performs horrible on all comparison topics. In the last year i've seen people generally agree that all of the following players are better than Anthony:

Tracy McGrady
Ray Allen
Reggie Miller
Gary Payton
Paul Pierce
Jason Kidd
Chris Paul
Paul George
Jimmy Butler
Jayson Tatum
Chauncey Billups
etc

I get Melos Career had a rough decline but why is everyone so dismissive of his accomplishments. Will we really look back and remember someone like Paul George or Jimmy Butler as superior to Melo?

When looking at career accomplishments can you really justify a case for Butler or PG13 as better player than Melo?

Melo:
Top 10 all time scorer with 28,000 career points
3 Gold Olympic Medals
NBA Scoring Champion
NCAA national champion
10x NBA all star

PG13
15000 career points
7x NBA all star

Butler
12000 career points
6x NBA all star
2 NBA finals losses

Can I defend my position based on stats that PG13 and Butler are better choices for trying to win a championship than Carmelo? No I can not but I will stick to my subjective opinion.

Carmelo gets separated from LeBron as time goes by and people forget that LeBron and Carmelo came into the league together.

Carmelo should improve his rank in retirement as young people that never saw him vote. Stats increasing in importance as subjective opinion declines in importance should help Carmelo.

[Ballerhogger]

Still the best player the Knicks has had since Ewing . Put the nuggets on the map again .

[Stromile12]

Type of player that would rather have 25 pts in a loss than 15 and winning. The longer he plays, the worse for his legacy, still plays hero ball as if he's in his prime.

[UcanUwill]

I think people will look at Carmelo's prime era and say - man, they really played this man as perimeter forward next to 2 bigs. Same as Kirilenko. In that way, I think Carmelo will be remembered a little bit better, because people will believe that he wasn't utilezed perfectly.

[TunaFish]

No, it will not improve with time. There is a whole fan base in Denver that has not forgotten how he forced his way out.

[andyhop]

Carmelo should improve his rank in retirement as young people that never saw him vote. Stats increasing in importance as subjective opinion declines in importance should help Carmelo.

I think that stats will hurt not help Melo in the future . I think it is inevitable that discussion even amongst casuals is going to move away from dependence on ppg to more impact related stats over time as broadcasters especially follow in the lead of other sports and move away from relying on box score stats.

[Reign23]

Still the best player the Knicks has had since Ewing . Put the nuggets on the map again .

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[sp6r=underrated]

I think people will look at Carmelo's prime era and say - man, they really played this man as perimeter forward next to 2 bigs. Same as Kirilenko. In that way, I think Carmelo will be remembered a little bit better, because people will believe that he wasn't utilezed perfectly.

Problem is old timers like me will point out he preferred playing small forward and got irritated early on when moved to the 4

[JayMKE]

No I don't think its going to get better but Carmelo is always going to be remembered coming into the league with Lebron in 2003, he was a super popular player. I think he'll be regarded sort of like AI is but not quite, he made an impact on the culture of the NBA

[worldjbfree]

Can’t speak to the consensus, but I don’t see Melo as a Top 75 all-time player. His legacy to me is similar to that of McGrady, English and Dantley – great scorers who never accomplished the ultimate goal of a championship.

[DangerZone13]

If Melo played even half-ass defense, I think he'd be viewed a lot better. I hold PG13 and Jimmy Buckets in higher regard because they bring the defense and can work with their teammates.