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Re: Grant Williams 

Post#381 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:03 pm

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Rob only got 4/52. I don’t see him getting more than Rob.


He’s getting more.

Rob had to take a sizable injury discount. The Celtics took a chance on the deal, but it was only on the table because he struggles to stay on the floor.

Yeah, I think that Cave is Right. Grant gets about 4/60. Rob did his Contract a bit earlier, and he has injury concerns.


I say again: A key negotiating issue is whether Grant can be expected to get a better-than-MLE deal next offseason. How likely is it that somebody would clear and use cap room to make that happen?
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Re: Grant Williams 

Post#382 » by Parliament10 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:08 pm

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He’s getting more.

Rob had to take a sizable injury discount. The Celtics took a chance on the deal, but it was only on the table because he struggles to stay on the floor.

Yeah, I think that Cave is Right. Grant gets about 4/60. Rob did his Contract a bit earlier, and he has injury concerns.


I say again: A key negotiating issue is whether Grant can be expected to get a better-than-MLE deal next offseason. How likely is it that somebody would clear and use cap room to make that happen?

Hmmm. -- Grant could bet on himself.
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Post#384 » by Bar Fight » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:02 pm

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If this is true, it makes the loss even more embarrassing. Not sure what saying this accomplishes.
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Post#385 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:42 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:We should definitely pursue an extension with Grant IMO. His skill set is just a rare combination:

1) Legitimate floor spacer
2) Quality defender vs bigs
3) Able to adequately switch onto the perimeter

It's just really, really, really hard to find all 3 things in 1 player. And if you settle for 1 or 2 of the 3, that's how you get guys who are played right off the court in the playoffs. And then the NBA system is rigged to where it's extremely difficult to replace guys that you don't retain because you have more flexibility to re-sign than to add from outside.

I'll add 3 more to that list

4) High character guy who is EXTREMELY well liked by the coaches and players on the team, just a great locker room presence, high basketball IQ, high work ethic
5) Young - only 23 so still getting better and developing. What you saw last season is not the finished product
6) One of the strongest players physically in the league, also very physically and mentally tough

Add it all up, and he's like a perfect role player. Gotta keep him in green. He knows his role, accepts his role but is always trying to get better and expand his game too
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Re: Grant Williams 

Post#386 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:44 pm

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If this is true, it makes the loss even more embarrassing. Not sure what saying this accomplishes.

Sometimes the truth can set you free but this still keeps my spirit locked up. I'm still upset b/c I agree, but he doesn't have to keep rubbing salt in my heart! :lol:

I know people will always say the better team won, but I feel the more experienced team won, if that is better then it means we will never beat them b/c our experience will never meet theirs. I'm not even sure Draymond believes the better team won, but I can't listen to his pod until we beat them, I just see small things that make me think he doesn't!
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Re: Grant Williams 

Post#387 » by Captain_Caveman » Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:16 pm

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Captain_Caveman wrote:On his extension, I see ~4y/60m happening by the end of camp. They might have to go up to 70m. Cap is just rising too fast. I have no problem tapping out on Grant at a certain point, but for the years in question, 4y/60m is essentially only a full MLE. Prepare for sticker shock on all contracts going forward.


Rob only got 4/52. I don’t see him getting more than Rob.


Not over the same years, and Rob had a higher injury risk. He also got taken bad.
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Re: Grant Williams 

Post#388 » by Feed Your Head » Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:22 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:Sometimes the truth can set you free but this still keeps my spirit locked up. I'm still upset b/c I agree, but he doesn't have to keep rubbing salt in my heart! :lol:

I know people will always say the better team won, but I feel the more experienced team won, if that is better then it means we will never beat them b/c our experience will never meet theirs. I'm not even sure Draymond believes the better team won, but I can't listen to his pod until we beat them, I just see small things that make me think he doesn't!


Draymond is higher on the Celtics than a fair amount of this board tbh lol.

He and the rest of the warriors just knew we weren’t ready, and absolutely feasted on the mental aspect. As boring as the answer is, that’s the case with young teams throughout nba history.
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Post#389 » by djFan71 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:09 am

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Shak_Celts wrote:Sometimes the truth can set you free but this still keeps my spirit locked up. I'm still upset b/c I agree, but he doesn't have to keep rubbing salt in my heart! :lol:

I know people will always say the better team won, but I feel the more experienced team won, if that is better then it means we will never beat them b/c our experience will never meet theirs. I'm not even sure Draymond believes the better team won, but I can't listen to his pod until we beat them, I just see small things that make me think he doesn't!


Draymond is higher on the Celtics than a fair amount of this board tbh lol.

He and the rest of the warriors just knew we weren’t ready, and absolutely feasted on the mental aspect. As boring as the answer is, that’s the case with young teams throughout nba history.

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Ws were not only the better team, they were the pettier team too.
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Post#390 » by London2Boston » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:17 am

Of course they were the better team. You don’t win a series in basketball without being better. This isnt Footballl or NFL where you can steal a win in the knockout format.
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Re: Grant Williams 

Post#391 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:20 am

djFan71 wrote:
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Shak_Celts wrote:Sometimes the truth can set you free but this still keeps my spirit locked up. I'm still upset b/c I agree, but he doesn't have to keep rubbing salt in my heart! :lol:

I know people will always say the better team won, but I feel the more experienced team won, if that is better then it means we will never beat them b/c our experience will never meet theirs. I'm not even sure Draymond believes the better team won, but I can't listen to his pod until we beat them, I just see small things that make me think he doesn't!


Draymond is higher on the Celtics than a fair amount of this board tbh lol.

He and the rest of the warriors just knew we weren’t ready, and absolutely feasted on the mental aspect. As boring as the answer is, that’s the case with young teams throughout nba history.

Read on Twitter


Ws were not only the better team, they were the pettier team too.


It's a rivalry.

The Cs have been a major pain to the Warriors in the regular season for years. Now there was a Warriors-Celtics Final. Draymond Green clearly feels personal rivalry with other great defenders. Steph Curry may feel rivalry with other great scorers. Etc.

And while today's players may not know that much about league history, most of them know enough to know that the Cs are a worthy rival for any franchise. All the more so for the Warriors, because their dads include Mychal Thompson (80s Laker), Gary Payton (briefly a Celtic -- technically twice!), and Dell Curry.
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Re: Grant Williams 

Post#392 » by djFan71 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:24 am

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djFan71 wrote:
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Draymond is higher on the Celtics than a fair amount of this board tbh lol.

He and the rest of the warriors just knew we weren’t ready, and absolutely feasted on the mental aspect. As boring as the answer is, that’s the case with young teams throughout nba history.

Read on Twitter


Ws were not only the better team, they were the pettier team too.


It's a rivalry.

The Cs have been a major pain to the Warriors in the regular season for years. Now there was a Warriors-Celtics Final. Draymond Green clearly feels personal rivalry with other great defenders. Steph Curry may feel rivalry with other great scorers. Etc.

lol, yeah, I love it.
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Post#393 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:29 am

Read on Twitter


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Post#394 » by jmr07019 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:33 am

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Ouch lol


**** pathetic we didn’t even give him a hard foul in the finals
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Re: Grant Williams 

Post#395 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:36 am

Bar Fight wrote:
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If this is true, it makes the loss even more embarrassing. Not sure what saying this accomplishes.


About as much as crying about a game 6 strategy 3 weeks after the loss

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Post#396 » by Bar Fight » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:57 am

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Bar Fight wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:

If this is true, it makes the loss even more embarrassing. Not sure what saying this accomplishes.


About as much as crying about a game 6 strategy 3 weeks after the loss

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I'm flattered that you believe my comments on the NBA Finals hold the same weight as Grant's.

Oh, btw. MagicBeanstalk18 when JB helps lead the Celtics to a title next year: Image

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Post#397 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:07 am

Bar Fight wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:If this is true, it makes the loss even more embarrassing. Not sure what saying this accomplishes.


About as much as crying about a game 6 strategy 3 weeks after the loss

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I'm flattered that you believe my comments on the NBA Finals hold the same weight as Grant's.

Oh, btw. MagicBeanstalk18 when JB helps lead the Celtics to a title next year: Image

8-)


Help is definitely the appropriate word. Won’t be lead we know that don’t we XanaxBAR fight

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Post#398 » by Bar Fight » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:10 am

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About as much as crying about a game 6 strategy 3 weeks after the loss

8-)
I'm flattered that you believe my comments on the NBA Finals hold the same weight as Grant's.

Oh, btw. MagicBeanstalk18 when JB helps lead the Celtics to a title next year: Image

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Help is definitely the appropriate word. Won’t be lead we know that don’t we XanaxBAR fight

8-)

Is this English?

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Post#399 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:13 am

Bar Fight wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote: I'm flattered that you believe my comments on the NBA Finals hold the same weight as Grant's.

Oh, btw. MagicBeanstalk18 when JB helps lead the Celtics to a title next year: Image

8-)


Help is definitely the appropriate word. Won’t be lead we know that don’t we XanaxBAR fight

8-)

Is this English?

8-)


Never heard of xanax? never been in a bar fight either huh?

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Post#400 » by Bar Fight » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:16 am

MagicBagley18 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Help is definitely the appropriate word. Won’t be lead we know that don’t we XanaxBAR fight

8-)

Is this English?

8-)


Never heard of xanax? never been in a bar fight either huh?

8-)

Oh, I certainly have MagicBagBoy18. It's the rest of the sentence that's the issue.

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