DOT wrote:B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:DOT wrote:Islam did it first.
I mean .. everything's connected to everything .. so .. meh. Obviously there was an amount of influence of basically Persian scholars on the early Renaissance. The technological exchanges at that point are hard to disentangle, with the weft and warp of the silk road and of the Arabia India ship route to add in.
But the pace of change, and even the acceleration of change over the last .. well.. you can choose a date.. but somewhere between 350 and 250 years ago is in a different scale.
I think you're trying to overthink things
I'm saying the Islamic golden age and the advancements it brought technologically predated the rise of Christianity (or rather, Europe) and was incredibly impactful, just overlooked often due to the Euro/Ameri-centric teaching of history.
"Incredibly impactful" is the point. My contention is that the technological changes over the last 250 or whatever years are much greater, and the acceleration is greater, than anything that happened between 750 and 1250.
Of course, people did smart things in that period in Islamic ruled places, again, a lot of it by Persians. But so did the Greeks in their time, and many stages of civilisation in China and India (without getting to be exhaustive).
But I don't think this conversation is going anywhere, so feel free to have the last word.