Playoffs: Bird vs Curry vs Dirk vs Kobe

[Cavsfansince84]

Probably because basketball is a team game and lebron fans only want to point out that others needed help while failing to realize Lebron always has help. Probably could've just left Klay out of it and then Kyrie and Lebron don't get brought up.

I could have left Klay out of it but he's a big part of what made GS into a dynasty and he had a lot of great games in the playoffs when GS needed it. I mean you can take that in whichever way but it still comes off as a bit def to me. Klay and Kyrie are obviously both great players.

[Onus]

Probably because basketball is a team game and lebron fans only want to point out that others needed help while failing to realize Lebron always has help. Probably could've just left Klay out of it and then Kyrie and Lebron don't get brought up.

I could have left Klay out of it but he's a big part of what made GS into a dynasty and he had a lot of great games in the playoffs when GS needed it. I mean you can take that in whichever way but it still comes off as a bit def to me. Klay and Kyrie are obviously both great players.

In context of this thread did Bird not have Mchale? What happens to dirk if JT doesn't show up in the finals? What happens to Kobe if Shaq and Pau don't show up? Does anyone win a title if they don't have someone else show up?

Curry gets 1 or 2 games from Klay a series and omg Curry isn't that guy anymore. Imagine having your nickname be game 6 klay because that's the only game you show up and everyone saying couldn't have done it without game 6 klay. And yea but it would be great if we just got those games consistently from klay and we wouldn't need that at all.

[Admiral-Kizaru]

Probably because basketball is a team game and lebron fans only want to point out that others needed help while failing to realize Lebron always has help. Probably could've just left Klay out of it and then Kyrie and Lebron don't get brought up.

I could have left Klay out of it but he's a big part of what made GS into a dynasty and he had a lot of great games in the playoffs when GS needed it. I mean you can take that in whichever way but it still comes off as a bit def to me. Klay and Kyrie are obviously both great players.

You can't pick and choose which player has help and which doesn't. Every all-time great player has had a great supporting cast at some time in their career yet, Steph seems to be the only player that has an asterisk with his accomplishments because of being "stacked" Lebron has tried to stack the deck every single year since he left Cleveland. Just because his strengths and style of play is not conducive to maximizing the Hall of Fame worthy help he has around him does not change the fact that he tries to assemble stacked teams. Perhaps, Steph should switch to a style of play that does not maximize the talent around him so he doesn't get penalized for playing on "stacked" teams.

[Admiral-Kizaru]

For the topic,

Steph
Dirk
Kobe
Bird

[Cavsfansince84]

In context of this thread did Bird not have Mchale? What happens to dirk if JT doesn't show up in the finals? What happens to Kobe if Shaq and Pau don't show up? Does anyone win a title if they don't have someone else show up?

Curry gets 1 or 2 games from Klay a series and omg Curry isn't that guy anymore. Imagine having your nickname be game 6 klay because that's the only game you show up and everyone saying couldn't have done it without game 6 klay. And yea but it would be great if we just got those games consistently from klay and we wouldn't need that at all.

See, this is why we can't have decent Steph discussions on here or on the gb a lot of the time. GS fans need to chill a bit when it comes to Steph at least on this board. Is it wrong of me to bring up inconsistency in a thread that involves him being compared to others? I had him ahead of Kobe here and a big reason why is Kobe also was too inconsistent for my tastes as well and I think benefited from playing on extremely good rebounding teams which could clean up his misses.

[Onus]

In context of this thread did Bird not have Mchale? What happens to dirk if JT doesn't show up in the finals? What happens to Kobe if Shaq and Pau don't show up? Does anyone win a title if they don't have someone else show up?

Curry gets 1 or 2 games from Klay a series and omg Curry isn't that guy anymore. Imagine having your nickname be game 6 klay because that's the only game you show up and everyone saying couldn't have done it without game 6 klay. And yea but it would be great if we just got those games consistently from klay and we wouldn't need that at all.

See, this is why we can't have decent Steph discussions on here or on the gb a lot of the time. GS fans need to chill a bit when it comes to Steph at least on this board. Is it wrong of me to bring up inconsistency in a thread that involves him being compared to others? I had him ahead of Kobe here and a big reason why is Kobe also was too inconsistent for my tastes as well and I think benefited from playing on extremely good rebounding teams which could clean up his misses.

We’re talking about a guy who avg 20 in the playoffs for the most dynastic team of the modern nba. Him getting 35 in 1 game means he’s getting a lot less in the other games. There’s nothing wrong to admit that. Klay is a solid player, but for a dynastic team you usually get more from your 2nd best scorer. But people like you want to act like Klay is giving something more than any other 2nd option would on a championship team.

It’s fine to bring up stephs inconsistency. I even admitted he’s bound to have a game where he shoots like poop in every series. Just part of the variance with his game.

[Cavsfansince84]

We’re talking about a guy who avg 20 in the playoffs for the most dynastic team of the modern nba. Him getting 35 in 1 game means he’s getting a lot less in the other games. There’s nothing wrong to admit that. Klay is a solid player, but for a dynastic team you usually get more from your 2nd best scorer. But people like you want to act like Klay is giving something more than any other 2nd option would on a championship team.

It’s fine to bring up stephs inconsistency. I even admitted he’s bound to have a game where he shoots like poop in every series. Just part of the variance with his game.

Again, you are lumping me in with God knows who in a ridiculous way here imo. There's just too much vitriol in your responses for me to bother continuing this whole discussion here now though I easily could.

[Onus]

We’re talking about a guy who avg 20 in the playoffs for the most dynastic team of the modern nba. Him getting 35 in 1 game means he’s getting a lot less in the other games. There’s nothing wrong to admit that. Klay is a solid player, but for a dynastic team you usually get more from your 2nd best scorer. But people like you want to act like Klay is giving something more than any other 2nd option would on a championship team.

It’s fine to bring up stephs inconsistency. I even admitted he’s bound to have a game where he shoots like poop in every series. Just part of the variance with his game.

Again, you are lumping me in with God knows who in a ridiculous way here imo. There's just too much vitriol in your responses for me to bother continuing this whole discussion here though I easily could.

You’re the one who brought up Klay and him putting up 35 a few times when they needed it. What was the point of bringing that up?

[Cavsfansince84]

You’re the one who brought up Klay and him putting up 35 a few times when they needed it. What was the point of bringing that up?

Its not against the forum rules to bring up Klay Thompson's name afaik. He also was not the 2nd option on all of those title teams. That's enough. There is a point between bb discussions being enjoyable and being battles of life and death that I can do without in my life. If you or anyone else wants to discuss bb with me it needs to be less antagonistic and without lumping me in as someone out to get Steph.

[Onus]

You’re the one who brought up Klay and him putting up 35 a few times when they needed it. What was the point of bringing that up?

Its not against the forum rules to bring up Klay Thompson's name afaik. He also was not the 2nd option on all of those title teams. That's enough. There is a point between bb discussions being enjoyable and being battles of life and death that I can do without in my life. If you or anyone else wants to discuss bb with me it needs to be less antagonistic and without lumping me in as someone out to get Steph.

It’s funny that you were not being antagonist but brought up Klay in a topic about curry, bird, Kobe, dirk. Ok …

[Cavsfansince84]

It’s funny that you were not being antagonist but brought up Klay in a topic about curry, bird, Kobe, dirk. Ok …

Is it though? Because it seems like all it really did was bring out quite a bit of defensiveness. Which I understand that many GS fans may feel like Steph doesn't get the credit he deserves or w/e but he's gotten plenty of credit over the last month or two. I don't think we need the collective chip on shoulder mindset to continue over here on this board. Nevermind though, I'll stop mentioning Steph's name at all unless I have something great to say about him. I mean have you ever seen anyone who can shoot 3's like Steph or how his insane gravity warps defenses? People should mention it more on here.

[Onus]

It’s funny that you were not being antagonist but brought up Klay in a topic about curry, bird, Kobe, dirk. Ok …

Is it though? Because it seems like all it really did was bring out quite a bit of defensiveness. Which I understand that many GS fans may feel like Steph doesn't get the credit he deserves or w/e but he's gotten plenty of credit over the last month or two. I don't think we need the collective chip on shoulder mindset to continue over here on this board. Nevermind though, I'll stop mentioning Steph's name at all unless I have something great to say about him. I mean have you ever seen anyone who can shoot 3's like Steph or how his insane gravity warps defenses? People should mention it more on here.

Ok so what does Klay have to do with this topic?

[Cavsfansince84]

Ok so what does Klay have to do with this topic?

Perhaps in some other thread we may explore it some day but as I already stated above you've lost your bb discussion privileges with me in this thread. I'm a man of my word afterall.