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Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
Obi, Hartenstein and trade Mitch later next season for useful player

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aggo wrote:Knick4Real wrote:RHODEY wrote:
This makes a lot of sense!
We can't give up all our picks AND players. That would be insanity. I'd rather give 5-6 picks in order to keep a talented bench intact.
thats good
Grimes + 4 picks + 1 swap
Yep I could see their offer as that or maybe even up to:
Grimes + 6 picks ((3) protected& 3 ours)? And that Clown Ainge is probably holding out for both OBI and IQ to be added in.
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Ask Sham if she was a fellow captive
(S)he has the perfect, tall, venal blonde look that a school like Liberty University would prefer.
"Can you get us a sideline reporter that looks like Ann Coulter only mildly attractive?"
Ding ding ding.

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
Siakam could and can play defence, indicating an understanding for the game, and something Obi basically hasn't done.
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
siakam didn't start playing basketball until he was like 17, a few years before he was drafted. if you're a team trying to win, there was no way he should have been playing a ton of minutes off rip, he just got started learning how to play basketball
weren't you calling him a bad/unmoveable contract just last year?
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thebuzzardman wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
Obi, Hartenstein and trade Mitch later next season for useful player
Is Mitch going to be hard or easy to trade in your view? If easy, why trade? If hard, how to trade?
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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
Siam could and can play defence, indicating an understanding for the game, and something Obi basically hasn't done.
What does that have to do with the Raptors deciding to start him, despite the fact he had shot 22% from three and there was an established player in front of him who was till good?
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
Siam could and can play defence, indicating an understanding for the game, and something Obi basically hasn't done.
What does that have to do with the Raptors deciding to start him, despite the fact he had shot 22% from three and there was an established player in front of him who was till good?
Isn't that rather obvious?
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Ghetto Gospel wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
siakam didn't start playing basketball until he was like 17, a few years before he was drafted. if you're a team trying to win, there was no way he should have been playing a ton of minutes off rip, he just got started learning how to play basketball
weren't you calling him a bad/unmoveable contract just last year?
What does that have to do with the Raptors deciding to start him in his 3rd season, despite the fact a more established player was in front of him?
And what does the second part have to do with what he was in his 2nd season? We're not talking about what he is, we're talking about what he was at the same time in his career as Obi. You would have been on here posting screenshots from Statmuse showing what he shot when he took more than 3 threes in a game.
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i don't even believe all this stuff you guys say is really even about obi. you just all hate randle and want him replaced. who does that doesn't even really matter. obi is just here already.
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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
Obi, Hartenstein and trade Mitch later next season for useful player
Is Mitch going to be hard or easy to trade in your view? If easy, why trade? If hard, how to trade?
My snark takes don't include sober analysis.
I'm honestly not sure. Mitch is a decent/good player. He's also in the upper echelon of pay, and over 4 years, for the prototype of player he is.
This is basically a hedge, because I don't know, but neither easy nor hard - a team would have to have a need and a matching player (s) Knicks would like back or some 3 team trade.
Like, if Bam were to go on the market, even teams that have a good C would explore it, where Mitch it would be a team with a need.

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god shammgod wrote:i don't even believe all this stuff you guys say is really even about obi. you just all really hate randle and want him replaced. who does that doesn't even really matter. obi is just here.
No, I actually like Obi as a player and have a decent idea what he'd be if he's a league average shooter. I hated the draft pick, but as a player I can see the value in a hustle big that may be able to stretch the floor.
Every comparison I've made with him are hustle bigs who are finishers, I'm not here saying maybe he can develop a handle or anything outrageous.
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SelbyCobra wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
Ask Sham if she was a fellow captive
(S)he has the perfect, tall, venal blonde look that a school like Liberty University would prefer.
"Can you get us a sideline reporter that looks like Ann Coulter only mildly attractive?"
Ding ding ding.
Well damn. Buzz pegged her for an Aryan POS and lo and behold she's an Aryan POS
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
That's what's more frustrating than anything, when his per 36 checks out and he's clearly trending up developmentally.
"He's been in the league for an entire 2 seasons, and in strictly limited minutes he's not prime Amare and he's not shooting 45% from three"


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Iron Mantis wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
That's what's more frustrating than anything, when his per 36 checks out and he's clearly trending up developmentally.
"He's been in the league for an entire 2 seasons, and in strictly limited minutes he's not prime Amare and he's not shooting 45% from three"
It's the strangest thing, the PER 36 numbers were literally validated when he started, then they say it was the competition, knowing damn well if he hadn't played well they would have been saying he sucks

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Clyde_Style wrote:SelbyCobra wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
(S)he has the perfect, tall, venal blonde look that a school like Liberty University would prefer.
"Can you get us a sideline reporter that looks like Ann Coulter only mildly attractive?"
Ding ding ding.
Well damn. Buzz pegged her for an Aryan POS and lo and behold she's an Aryan POS
He's_On_Fire stated she's a sideline reporter for Liberty University.
Pretty safe to safe that school has certain hiring preferences, especially if it's a public facing person. Not specifically race based, but well, it's there, but boy, better be at least a strong pretend Christian have politics to far right of Barry Goldwater

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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
Obi, Hartenstein and trade Mitch later next season for useful player
Is Mitch going to be hard or easy to trade in your view? If easy, why trade? If hard, how to trade?
If he plays at the same level, pretty easy to trade.
The premise that he'd be a good trading chip is based on the expectation that Hartenstein was a remarkably good signing and that Sims is progressing rapidly, thus making us 3 deep at C.
Hart's defensive rating was surprisingly great and he is apparently a much better offensive player than Mitch. Personally, I find Mitch's boring putback offense to be quite effective and it did lead to setting a FG% record which helps team efficiency enormously when most of those points come from offensive boards.
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thebuzzardman wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Speaking of Siakam, in his 2nd season he averaged 7.3ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.0apg and shot 51% from the field and 22% from three, he got 5 starts on the year and averaged 13/4/2. He got to start in his 3rd season, and we know what happened there, 16.9ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.1apg, and Obi's advanced stats have been better through his first two years than Siakam's were. Much like Obi, Siakam's stats were screaming out "hey, maybe this guy should play more?".
Imagine Siakam on this team with most of you debbie downer ass posters who can't do projections, you would have been saying he sucks he shoots 22% from three and no way should he start over Serge Ibaka who was 28 at the time and made $20 million to Siakam's $1.3 million.
Obi, Hartenstein and trade Mitch later next season for useful player
Mitch is less problematic than Randle in an offense, you could run spain PnR with Mitch and Obi, those sets the Hawks killed us with where Collins & Capella were setting screens at the same time? We could do that with them if they have Mitchell/Brunson as primary ball handlers.
Randle isn't a good enough finisher at the rim for that kind of thing, you can only do it with 2 skywalkers.
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thebuzzardman wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:SelbyCobra wrote:
Ding ding ding.
Well damn. Buzz pegged her for an Aryan POS and lo and behold she's an Aryan POS
He's_On_Fire stated she's a sideline reporter for Liberty University.
Pretty safe to safe that school has certain hiring preferences, especially if it's a public facing person. Not specifically race based, but well, it's there, but boy, better be at least a strong pretend Christian have politics to far right of Barry Goldwater
CPAC in the recent past has been a heinous amalgation of arse licking Trump loyalists and racist scum so if the mic fits .......