Off-Season Volume 6 - The One Where Someone (Darius Days) Signs

[marson]

On vacation in the keys and just found out about Celts offering Jaylen Brown. All the nuggets are not countering that offer. Maybe i’ll run into a BK exec and i’ll sell our offer lol

Short of throwing Bam at them, I don't see how we compete there if the Celtics are really willing to part with Brown, and I don't think we're willing to part with Bam. I guess we'll just have to run it back and wait for the next unhappy star.

This is the way to go. I won't trade Bam for an aging 34 y/o player. The trade deadline is the next goal I guess.

[contract]

I think KD would push back against landing in Boston. Up 3-1 against GS and loss. Next season he joined them in the west. I know it's different this time since it's a trade but Boston swept Brooklyn and made it finals. Next season KD lands there in east.

He doesn't have a say. He's got two choices, he can play or he can retire. That's it. If he wants to go to Boston and spend his last 2 superstar years moping, dragging down a championship level roster, and further tarnishing his "legacy", then I guess he's free to do that.

[contract]

I have a real good feeling about the next thread.

[spectrec130]

Interesting, Commish Silver seems like the Canary in the Coal Mine and if he's voicing displeasure with player empowerment/movement in the league, ya can bet that the Owners are prepping to make changes to the CBA. December Opt out is looming.

Can see the Nets FO telling KD he aint going anywhere and run it back with Simmons/Irving/Durant for the 22/23 season, possibly in order to raise value to the trade deadline.

Silver needs the Nets to send KD to where he wants for an underwhelming offer. Hear me out:
- Silver making noises signals the owners want some more controls in place to prevent someone signing a big deal then want out.
- right now the biggest thing like this is Harden. But the league has changed interpretations to penalise him and he’s made himself a meme with his efforts to get out.
- KD is a global icon and one of the faces of the league. If he pulls this off then it makes the contracts barely worth the paper they’re written on.
- NBAPA will focus on ensuring players get their bag, while NBA will focus on preventing players forcing trades - Silver knows these aren’t mutually exclusive.

TLDR: the NBA needs KD to force this issue & the Nets to relent. Otherwise they don’t have the level of precedent to ask for the changes they want to protect teams investing assets in securing players, only to have them demand out.

Possible, Can see meeting KD's trade demand would be the proverbial nail in the CBA coffin to join players force out with the likes of Harden/George/Davis. These trade demands are just not good for the league but the decline in ratings needs to be addressed. Silver has got to turn this around.

As a side not, find there has been a slow pivot with the NBA in not just players movement but in other areas. Namely, more and more the grumbling against punitive nature of Cap penalties, Player time management and China's influence. It's not overt but there seems to be a subtle attempt to move forward away from this. I'll definitely be interested on how this plays out if come December the Owners opt out.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Lol @ Nuts asking Celts for a young allstar + a DPOY in his prime + picks (plural)

[spectrec130]

Interesting, Commish Silver seems like the Canary in the Coal Mine and if he's voicing displeasure with player empowerment/movement in the league, ya can bet that the Owners are prepping to make changes to the CBA. December Opt out is looming.

Can see the Nets FO telling KD he aint going anywhere and run it back with Simmons/Irving/Durant for the 22/23 season, possibly in order to raise value to the trade deadline.

I don't see how KD's value goes up. He's coming off a 29.9 ppg/7.4 reb/6.4 ast season with a 63.4% true shooting percentage. And 6 months from now he's only going to be 6 months older.

Was of the mind:

1-KD helping Simmon's value with how it seems he (Ben) is viewed.
2-Nets gaining a better package from a more desperate team at the deadline.

Just seems the Nets are not impressed with anything out there right now.

[Flash4thewin]

These past few pages have taken hope peddling to a new level. The Nets literally say we dont have enough and we have posters saying yes we are getting him. Then it's like no one read the comments on the fantasy Cavs trade. They had Cavs fans laugh at it. The Cavs goal is to have max cap space for next offseason. Sexton was hurt, the team did better without out. In what universe would they trade him for Duncan who has a higher salary The Cavs would love for him to take the qualifying option.

Nothing from the Nets has screamed panic or incompetence like the 76er with Brand. They have KD under contract for 4 years and unless a team reaches that price they will keep him. The Boston offer is most likely real and the Nets are still thinking about it, that should tell you all you need to know about there intentions and what they really think about our "Offer"

[SoFlaKingReal]

Celtics offering Brown, but some on here refuse to offer Bam…

[Hallstar]

Because the Heat need him coming off the bench. Y'all worried about some badge of honor for Herro. And you don't just start the most talented players. You put players in the best roles that help win games. It's a reason why players like Odom, Kukoc, Ginobli and Jordan Poole came off the bench and closed games on their title teams. You can't say in one breath agree the starting unit is not a problem but then it's not an ego thing but say Herro deserves to start.

Herro gets the bigger role as a sixth man than a starter. He got 18 shots a game. That is a lot. You have to understand there are limited amount of shots in the game. You spot players so they can get utilized to their fullest and not be minimized. Duncan and Strus has a smaller role and that is why they started. You seen what happened to Chris Bosh. Bosh had to sacrifice his usage to start next to Wade and James and play a limited role. That is what will happen to Herro. This is a common balancing act that goes back 30 plus years.

I said this last year and this year. Herro is at his best when he can focus as a scorer and not a distributor. He struggled having to share shots with Bam and Jimmy together. Because when all three on the court together one of the three has to sacrifice

Are the proposed trades for Mitchell or Durant for them to come off the bench?

The other issue we've always had is Spo has no offensive system to take advantage of people's skillsets.

Huh you're comparing Herro to Durant and Mitchell? Man wth is going on with you guys and girls? I swear you guys are just knowly saying things that you know is silly. Durant and Mitchell come here the team will be built around either those two and Bam and Jimmy would have to sacrifice. They would be the clear cut number one player on this team. Which why the roster would be gutted to acquire those two with Herro being part of that gut.

C'Mon I'm not gonna explain that any moreso, I expect better than that out of you guys and girls. This is where people get annoyed by Herro's fan boys. Inside you see Herro as an elite level player on the pars of Durant, Luka and Mitchell. And it evidently spews out when people try to have a level conversation about him. It creates a polar atmosphere discussion which now influences someone has to negatively critique Herro to counter this hyperbolic love for Herro.

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First off let's not overrate MItchell, he's not even a top 20 player, but that wasn't the point of my post. The point was that we don't have some abundance of offensive riches that Herro can't be in the starting lineup. And if we can't integrate Herro, how are we gonna integrate and maximize Durant or Mitchell

[miamiballer]

Really hope Boston trades brown AND smart plus more for kd

It makes them worse now in my opinion when you factor in fit and kds injury history and makes their window much smaller. DO IT

[miamiballer]

Also no longer want Mitchell esp with ainge demands and don’t want kd if it means bam is gone

Bring me one of turner, Collins or barnes for Robinson and draft picks and I’m good

[marson]

Celtics offering Brown, but some on here refuse to offer Bam…

Well if you give out Bam, we basically lose our defensive identity.

From the Celtics' perspective, upgrading Jaylen Brown to KD works for them since the snek will fill up the same role seamlessly.

Different needs for both teams.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Really hope Boston trades brown AND smart plus more for kd

It makes them worse now in my opinion when you factor in fit and kds injury history and makes their window much smaller. DO IT

Then Boston AND Brooklyn would be better than the Heat lol

[3ballbomber]

1 of nets final attempts @increasing offers. We call your bluff.

[miamiballer]

Really hope Boston trades brown AND smart plus more for kd

It makes them worse now in my opinion when you factor in fit and kds injury history and makes their window much smaller. DO IT

Then Boston AND Brooklyn would be better than the Heat lol

Eh not so sure, I think it weakens Celtics for sure and makes nets better but not better than us

I think it makes them both more even on par with us

[SoFlaKingReal]

Celtics offering Brown, but some on here refuse to offer Bam…

Well if you give out Bam, we basically lose our defensive identity.

From the Celtics' perspective, upgrading Jaylen Brown to KD works for them since the snek will fill up the role seamlessly.

Different needs for both teams.

Plus Boston probably just prefers J Brown over Bam considering they have Simmons.

[IceColdCubano]

Oooff... just got a text!!! The shams and Woj thing is for real.

- 8:55AM Jo, Miami was called by Brooklyn to counter a boston offer for Durant, they have an official offer sheet from Boston.
- 8:57AM, Durant has also spoken to front office as of this morning and accepted a trade to Boston for the package presented.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Durant going to join the team that just swept him out of the playoffs lol

[greg4012]

Oooff... just got a text!!! The shams and Woj thing is for real.

- 8:55AM Jo, Miami was called by Brooklyn to counter a boston offer for Durant, they have an official offer sheet from Boston.
- 8:57AM, Durant has also spoken to front office as of this morning and accepted a trade to Boston for the package presented.

No me gusta

[SoFlaKingReal]

Should we even start another thread?