Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

[MrDollarBills]

I was talking to my brother and he made a good point, would a trade with Boston include Seth or even Joe being shipped out? I don't know what Joe's trade value is, but would he be expendable if a player like Jaylen Brown is traded to BK?

if Seth or Joe get shipped out then Smart has to come back in the deal as well.

That was sort of what I was thinking, but I didn't think Boston would go for that (losing Smart). Things are about to get interesting. Hopefully.

No Smart, no Seth or Joe.

I would bring in Smart for his defense and leadership, something this team has lacked from its two "superstar" clowns.

[Hello Brooklyn]

No I'm not doing it without Smart.

Boston needs to give us more than Brown.

They have plenty of other pieces on the team.

Give me Brown/Smart/Grant and 3 1sts with 2 pick swaps.

Thats actual value. With KD Celtics are easily favorites to win it all next year. Pay up.

[MagicBagley18]

I’d think a realistic deal would be brown/white/grant 3 firsts. I don’t see the Celtics losing both smart and brown. Obviously I understand the nets wanting that deal and asking for that but the Celtics are in a really good position - they don’t have to make any trade at all. The nets don’t either really until we know for sure he’s still demanding out.

If the Celtics get KD they are the title favorite. If they don’t get Durant they are still a real contender to win it all. The nets come out of this with Jaylen brown picks and solid role players who can defend and are great team guys with good chemistry. It’s still a very good package. They also don’t need 3-4 teams to get it done.

Also for you guys it doesn’t matter when the Celtics offered brown or if the deal is weeks old. All that matters is the Celtics did in fact offer brown so there’s a real blue chip asset on the table if you do have to deal KD

Upsell me on Derrick White. I wasn't impressed with him at all when we played you guys this season.

I totally get not wanting to move Smart. I absolutely want Brown, Grant Williams 3 1sts as the baseline.

White isn’t a knock down shooter you are right but he’s also not as bad as he showed here and even with his shooting woes he still hit some really big shots in the playoffs. He’s a really high iq player, very good defensively and has a good floater game and he is a ball connector. He’s a good player. Really good locker room guy too.

White is just a guy who can affect the game in multiple ways and still give 15-20 on random nights. Can play the 1 or 2. He’s a career 34% guy from 3 so not great but not the 30% or so he was last year. Most of us fully think with a full training camp with us he’ll have a really good year.

[MagicBagley18]

No I'm not doing it without Smart.

Boston needs to give us more than Brown.

They have plenty of other pieces on the team.

Give me Brown/Smart/Grant and 3 1sts with 2 pick swaps.

Thats actual value. With KD Celtics are easily favorites to win it all next year. Pay up.

Not gonna get in a back and forth and i get you asking for that but I can almost assuredly guarantee you won’t be getting that package. The Celtics don’t have to do anything at all. If you say well either do the nets? Well great than we won’t have a deal but then you also won’t get Jaylen brown or any blue chip centerpiece back in a deal and the Celtics will still be a title favorite.

If the Celtics offered smart and brown which I doubt they would - then that’s going to severely limit your draft pick return. You aren’t getting smart brown and 3 picks and grant. Just won’t happen. Again, I totally understand you asking for that but right now jaylen brown is the best trade asset that’s ACTUALLY on the table and know has been offered. The Celtics only have to beat the best available deal if you guys have to trade Durant.

Barnes isn’t available that we know of. We don’t know Ingram is. Other than that brown beats every single asset that’s available and Boston only has to beat actual deals not what the fans think they should offer.

[Stone]

It would be a home run if we could get Smart and Brown. I doubt the Celtics go for it. Brown only has next season and the following one left, so IMO we got to get more than that.

[NetsWorld]

No I'm not doing it without Smart.

Boston needs to give us more than Brown.

They have plenty of other pieces on the team.

Give me Brown/Smart/Grant and 3 1sts with 2 pick swaps.

Thats actual value. With KD Celtics are easily favorites to win it all next year. Pay up.

Not gonna get in a back and forth and i get you asking for that but I can almost assuredly guarantee you won’t be getting that package. The Celtics don’t have to do anything at all. If you say well either do the nets? Well great than we won’t have a deal but then you also won’t get Jaylen brown or any blue chip centerpiece back in a deal and the Celtics will still be a title favorite.

If the Celtics offered smart and brown which I doubt they would - then that’s going to severely limit your draft pick return. You aren’t getting smart brown and 3 picks and grant. Just won’t happen. Again, I totally understand you asking for that but right now jaylen brown is the best trade asset that’s ACTUALLY on the table and know has been offered. The Celtics only have to beat the best available deal if you guys have to trade Durant.

Barnes isn’t available that we know of. We don’t know Ingram is. Other than that brown beats every single asset that’s available and Boston only has to beat actual deals not what the fans think they should offer.

Brad Stevens/Sean Marks will make all final calls sir. I hate when people act like they are running teams on these boards saying stuff like, "You won't be getting this or that". Nets/Celtics are not gonna do a deal which hinders their teams; it's looking like this whole leak came from KD's camp anyway. Good for KD, he can rot here for four years until the Nets get what they want, a fair return.

[MagicBagley18]

No I'm not doing it without Smart.

Boston needs to give us more than Brown.

They have plenty of other pieces on the team.

Give me Brown/Smart/Grant and 3 1sts with 2 pick swaps.

Thats actual value. With KD Celtics are easily favorites to win it all next year. Pay up.

Not gonna get in a back and forth and i get you asking for that but I can almost assuredly guarantee you won’t be getting that package. The Celtics don’t have to do anything at all. If you say well either do the nets? Well great than we won’t have a deal but then you also won’t get Jaylen brown or any blue chip centerpiece back in a deal and the Celtics will still be a title favorite.

If the Celtics offered smart and brown which I doubt they would - then that’s going to severely limit your draft pick return. You aren’t getting smart brown and 3 picks and grant. Just won’t happen. Again, I totally understand you asking for that but right now jaylen brown is the best trade asset that’s ACTUALLY on the table and know has been offered. The Celtics only have to beat the best available deal if you guys have to trade Durant.

Barnes isn’t available that we know of. We don’t know Ingram is. Other than that brown beats every single asset that’s available and Boston only has to beat actual deals not what the fans think they should offer.

Brad Stevens/Sean Marks will make all final calls sir. I hate when people act like they are running teams on these boards saying stuff like, "You won't be getting this or that". Nets/Celtics are not gonna do a deal which hinders their teams; it's looking like this whole leak came from KD's camp anyway. Good for KD, he can rot here for four years until the Nets get what they want, a fair return.

No problem I’ll stick around and wait to see what he’s actually dealt for if he’s even traded. It’s not even fan service- you literally don’t know any other package that’s actually been offered. I’m basing this off of what we now know is actually on the table.

That said the Celtics aren’t trading Jaylen smart grant and 3 firsts for anyone besides giannis and Luka and certainly not KD at 34 when they already have a championship caliber team.

[MrDollarBills]

Not gonna get in a back and forth and i get you asking for that but I can almost assuredly guarantee you won’t be getting that package. The Celtics don’t have to do anything at all. If you say well either do the nets? Well great than we won’t have a deal but then you also won’t get Jaylen brown or any blue chip centerpiece back in a deal and the Celtics will still be a title favorite.

If the Celtics offered smart and brown which I doubt they would - then that’s going to severely limit your draft pick return. You aren’t getting smart brown and 3 picks and grant. Just won’t happen. Again, I totally understand you asking for that but right now jaylen brown is the best trade asset that’s ACTUALLY on the table and know has been offered. The Celtics only have to beat the best available deal if you guys have to trade Durant.

Barnes isn’t available that we know of. We don’t know Ingram is. Other than that brown beats every single asset that’s available and Boston only has to beat actual deals not what the fans think they should offer.

Brad Stevens/Sean Marks will make all final calls sir. I hate when people act like they are running teams on these boards saying stuff like, "You won't be getting this or that". Nets/Celtics are not gonna do a deal which hinders their teams; it's looking like this whole leak came from KD's camp anyway. Good for KD, he can rot here for four years until the Nets get what they want, a fair return.

No problem I’ll stick around and wait to see what he’s actually dealt for if he’s even traded. It’s not even fan service- you literally don’t know any other package that’s actually been offered. I’m basing this off of what we now know is actually on the table.

That said the Celtics aren’t trading Jaylen smart grant and 3 firsts for anyone besides giannis and Luka and certainly not KD at 34 when they already have a championship caliber team.

I'm still wondering why Brad would even want to break up what he's built now. With the additions you've made this summer you're a top 3 team in the East. Why add KD to the mix?

I'm telling you, KD is just as much of a headcase as Kyrie. He's miserable, flaky, doesn't want to play team basketball and he absolutely gave up in the series against yall.

[NetsWorld]

Brad Stevens/Sean Marks will make all final calls sir. I hate when people act like they are running teams on these boards saying stuff like, "You won't be getting this or that". Nets/Celtics are not gonna do a deal which hinders their teams; it's looking like this whole leak came from KD's camp anyway. Good for KD, he can rot here for four years until the Nets get what they want, a fair return.

No problem I’ll stick around and wait to see what he’s actually dealt for if he’s even traded. It’s not even fan service- you literally don’t know any other package that’s actually been offered. I’m basing this off of what we now know is actually on the table.

That said the Celtics aren’t trading Jaylen smart grant and 3 firsts for anyone besides giannis and Luka and certainly not KD at 34 when they already have a championship caliber team.

I'm still wondering why Brad would even want to break up what he's built now. With the additions you've made this summer you're a top 3 team in the East. Why add KD to the mix?

I'm telling you, KD is just as much of a headcase as Kyrie. He's miserable, flaky, doesn't want to play team basketball and he absolutely gave up in the series against yall.

Two things,, KD is a generational talent and two, JB is upset in Boston and there is evidence to suggest this. Nets would not lose getting JB and in fact, we would retool pretty damn fine with the future stars of this league.

[MagicBagley18]

No problem I’ll stick around and wait to see what he’s actually dealt for if he’s even traded. It’s not even fan service- you literally don’t know any other package that’s actually been offered. I’m basing this off of what we now know is actually on the table.

That said the Celtics aren’t trading Jaylen smart grant and 3 firsts for anyone besides giannis and Luka and certainly not KD at 34 when they already have a championship caliber team.

I'm still wondering why Brad would even want to break up what he's built now. With the additions you've made this summer you're a top 3 team in the East. Why add KD to the mix?

I'm telling you, KD is just as much of a headcase as Kyrie. He's miserable, flaky, doesn't want to play team basketball and he absolutely gave up in the series against yall.

Two things,, KD is a generational talent and two, JB is upset in Boston and there is evidence to suggest this. Nets would not lose getting JB and in fact, we would retool pretty damn fine with the future stars of this league.

Actually mark murphy whose arguably the most plugged in Celtics source already talked to people in Jaylens camp since Jaylen tweeted “smh” and they say he loves Boston and looks forward to being back.

[MGrand15]

I think KD for Brown + Smart + 3 first round picks is very realistic. Boston already has Brodgon to replace Smart and they keep all their depth in that deal. That team would be absolutely loaded with KD, Tatum, Rob Williams, Horford, Brogdon, Grant Williams, White, Pritchard, Gallinari. That's a monster 9 man rotation.

Nets end up getting 2 very good players + recoup some picks that we lost to Houston. Jaylen is the young allstar with upside we were looking for and Smart is the culture changer the team wants. I could see us pushing for draft assets like what Utah got for Gobert and we end up settling for 3 firsts + 1 swap.

I don't think we push hard for Grant Williams - who's up for a new contract or Pritchard - a tiny PG with limited upside. Everyone else is either too good, too expensive, or a G League type player.

[Hello Brooklyn]

No I'm not doing it without Smart.

Boston needs to give us more than Brown.

They have plenty of other pieces on the team.

Give me Brown/Smart/Grant and 3 1sts with 2 pick swaps.

Thats actual value. With KD Celtics are easily favorites to win it all next year. Pay up.

Not gonna get in a back and forth and i get you asking for that but I can almost assuredly guarantee you won’t be getting that package. The Celtics don’t have to do anything at all. If you say well either do the nets? Well great than we won’t have a deal but then you also won’t get Jaylen brown or any blue chip centerpiece back in a deal and the Celtics will still be a title favorite.

If the Celtics offered smart and brown which I doubt they would - then that’s going to severely limit your draft pick return. You aren’t getting smart brown and 3 picks and grant. Just won’t happen. Again, I totally understand you asking for that but right now jaylen brown is the best trade asset that’s ACTUALLY on the table and know has been offered. The Celtics only have to beat the best available deal if you guys have to trade Durant.

Barnes isn’t available that we know of. We don’t know Ingram is. Other than that brown beats every single asset that’s available and Boston only has to beat actual deals not what the fans think they should offer.

Thats fine.

Me and other Nets fans are perfectly fine standing pat.

Brown is only on a 2 year deal and could easily leave. Hes not exactly the long term blue chip prospect that others would be.

KD is locked up for 4 years.

Thats the price for KD, an all time great player on a long term contract with no opt out.

Ingram is younger and would be on a longer contract. And New Orleans has a better chance of giving us good draft picks and has more of them from other teams.

[MrDollarBills]

No problem I’ll stick around and wait to see what he’s actually dealt for if he’s even traded. It’s not even fan service- you literally don’t know any other package that’s actually been offered. I’m basing this off of what we now know is actually on the table.

That said the Celtics aren’t trading Jaylen smart grant and 3 firsts for anyone besides giannis and Luka and certainly not KD at 34 when they already have a championship caliber team.

I'm still wondering why Brad would even want to break up what he's built now. With the additions you've made this summer you're a top 3 team in the East. Why add KD to the mix?

I'm telling you, KD is just as much of a headcase as Kyrie. He's miserable, flaky, doesn't want to play team basketball and he absolutely gave up in the series against yall.

Two things,, KD is a generational talent and two, JB is upset in Boston and there is evidence to suggest this. Nets would not lose getting JB and in fact, we would retool pretty damn fine with the future stars of this league.

I don't think the league views him as a generational talent anymore otherwise he would have been dealt already.

He's a bus rider who has the first instinct to quit and run away when things get tough. After Harden set the precedent for demanding trades off of two teams in two straight years, rival GMs are probably not willing to cash in all their assets for someone who will just decide to quit on a whim.

[NetsWorld]

I'm still wondering why Brad would even want to break up what he's built now. With the additions you've made this summer you're a top 3 team in the East. Why add KD to the mix?

I'm telling you, KD is just as much of a headcase as Kyrie. He's miserable, flaky, doesn't want to play team basketball and he absolutely gave up in the series against yall.

Two things,, KD is a generational talent and two, JB is upset in Boston and there is evidence to suggest this. Nets would not lose getting JB and in fact, we would retool pretty damn fine with the future stars of this league.

I don't think the league views him as a generational talent anymore otherwise he would have been dealt already.

He's a bus rider who has the first instinct to quit and run away when things get tough. After Harden set the precedent for demanding trades off of two teams in two straight years, rival GMs are probably not willing to cash in all their assets for someone who will just decide to quit on a whim.

The only thing going against him are age and of course as you mentioned, being a quitter. But if he comes back, he will have a shot to repair his image and winning cures all.

[MagicBagley18]

No I'm not doing it without Smart.

Boston needs to give us more than Brown.

They have plenty of other pieces on the team.

Give me Brown/Smart/Grant and 3 1sts with 2 pick swaps.

Thats actual value. With KD Celtics are easily favorites to win it all next year. Pay up.

Not gonna get in a back and forth and i get you asking for that but I can almost assuredly guarantee you won’t be getting that package. The Celtics don’t have to do anything at all. If you say well either do the nets? Well great than we won’t have a deal but then you also won’t get Jaylen brown or any blue chip centerpiece back in a deal and the Celtics will still be a title favorite.

If the Celtics offered smart and brown which I doubt they would - then that’s going to severely limit your draft pick return. You aren’t getting smart brown and 3 picks and grant. Just won’t happen. Again, I totally understand you asking for that but right now jaylen brown is the best trade asset that’s ACTUALLY on the table and know has been offered. The Celtics only have to beat the best available deal if you guys have to trade Durant.

Barnes isn’t available that we know of. We don’t know Ingram is. Other than that brown beats every single asset that’s available and Boston only has to beat actual deals not what the fans think they should offer.

Thats fine.

Me and other Nets fans are perfectly fine standing pat.

Brown is only on a 2 year deal and could easily leave. Hes not exactly the long term blue chip prospect that others would be.

KD is locked up for 4 years.

Thats the price for KD, an all time great player on a long term contract with no opt out.

Ingram is younger and would be on a longer contract. And New Orleans has a better chance of giving us good draft picks and has more of them from other teams.

And yet nearly a month has gone by and we don’t know Ingram has ever been offered. It’s actually never been reported anywhere he’s been offered. It’s been talked about as a player that would get a deal done but never anywhere that he’s been offered. Brown is actually being offered. That’s the difference. It’s not hypothetical it’s actually on the table. Can u say the same about Ingram?

Also for all the talk of browns contract - it hasn’t stopped you from saying from day 1 that’s who you want so clearly it’s not a huge deal breaker for you.

[Born_Ready]

Right now it's all speculation, like it's been since KD asked for his trade. Boston nor Brooklyn are desperate to get a deal done and if it means Durant plays out his full contract (that he agreed to) so be it. I just want a conclusion so everyone can move on.

[Paradise]

That KD to Boston deal would look a lot different if Kyrie stays. Changes everything.

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[Hello Brooklyn]

Not gonna get in a back and forth and i get you asking for that but I can almost assuredly guarantee you won’t be getting that package. The Celtics don’t have to do anything at all. If you say well either do the nets? Well great than we won’t have a deal but then you also won’t get Jaylen brown or any blue chip centerpiece back in a deal and the Celtics will still be a title favorite.

If the Celtics offered smart and brown which I doubt they would - then that’s going to severely limit your draft pick return. You aren’t getting smart brown and 3 picks and grant. Just won’t happen. Again, I totally understand you asking for that but right now jaylen brown is the best trade asset that’s ACTUALLY on the table and know has been offered. The Celtics only have to beat the best available deal if you guys have to trade Durant.

Barnes isn’t available that we know of. We don’t know Ingram is. Other than that brown beats every single asset that’s available and Boston only has to beat actual deals not what the fans think they should offer.

Thats fine.

Me and other Nets fans are perfectly fine standing pat.

Brown is only on a 2 year deal and could easily leave. Hes not exactly the long term blue chip prospect that others would be.

KD is locked up for 4 years.

Thats the price for KD, an all time great player on a long term contract with no opt out.

Ingram is younger and would be on a longer contract. And New Orleans has a better chance of giving us good draft picks and has more of them from other teams.

And yet nearly a month has gone by and we don’t know Ingram has ever been offered. It’s actually never been reported anywhere he’s been offered. It’s been talked about as a player that would get a deal done but never anywhere that he’s been offered. Brown is actually being offered. That’s the difference. It’s not hypothetical it’s actually on the table. Can u say the same about Ingram?

Also for all the talk of browns contract - it hasn’t stopped you from saying from day 1 that’s who you want so clearly it’s not a huge deal breaker for you.

I don't know why youre so confident everything being offered is reported. Most of the time its not.

If there is a leak there is a reason for it.

It has been reported that NO is interested. And Windhorst has said he thinks the Pelicans could offer Ingram if pressed.

Yes I do want Brown. But he alone is not enough value for KD. We need more pieces.

[MagicBagley18]

Thats fine.

Me and other Nets fans are perfectly fine standing pat.

Brown is only on a 2 year deal and could easily leave. Hes not exactly the long term blue chip prospect that others would be.

KD is locked up for 4 years.

Thats the price for KD, an all time great player on a long term contract with no opt out.

Ingram is younger and would be on a longer contract. And New Orleans has a better chance of giving us good draft picks and has more of them from other teams.

And yet nearly a month has gone by and we don’t know Ingram has ever been offered. It’s actually never been reported anywhere he’s been offered. It’s been talked about as a player that would get a deal done but never anywhere that he’s been offered. Brown is actually being offered. That’s the difference. It’s not hypothetical it’s actually on the table. Can u say the same about Ingram?

Also for all the talk of browns contract - it hasn’t stopped you from saying from day 1 that’s who you want so clearly it’s not a huge deal breaker for you.

I don't know why youre so confident everything being offered is reported. Most of the time its not.

If there is a leak there is a reason for it.

It has been reported that NO is interested. And Windhorst has said he thinks the Pelicans could offer Ingram if pressed.

Yes I do want Brown. But he alone is not enough value for KD. We need more pieces.

I’m only confident that the Celtics offered brown. Doesn’t mean Durant’s even traded or if he is to Boston. Woj, shams, Stein, windy, and mark murphy and Steve bulpett 2 plugged in Celtics guys basically confirmed Jaylen is on the table. Doesn’t matter when. the news is he’s offered at all.

Personally I think the nets leaked this to get other teams to up their offers as they should and that’s the reason there’s a leak- because the nets haven’t been offered what they want yet. Windy can hint all he wants that ingrams on the table but it hasn’t ever actually been reported that he has. So it’s all rumor. I’m going by what’s actually a real deal.

I know Boston is not some destination at all but I have real doubts that KD would wanna basically attach his championship window to Zion Williamson’s knee and eating habits. In Boston at least we know Durant has relationships with Tatum, ime and horford. And where KD wants to go will have SOME effect in this. It will matter in some regard for sure. If phx and Miami can’t get a deal done that matters.

[GTR11]

No I'm not doing it without Smart.

Boston needs to give us more than Brown.

They have plenty of other pieces on the team.

Give me Brown/Smart/Grant and 3 1sts with 2 pick swaps.

Thats actual value. With KD Celtics are easily favorites to win it all next year. Pay up.

Price is set, Marks not going to move one bit here. Season didn't even started and we already got a first leak, there will be more for sure.

We actually not giving ourselves a favor here. If this season becomes another colossal failure, Marks/Tsai can boot Steve Trash. Than with PHX back in play and more clarity with Brown, Heat and NOP we can start really negotiating.

Marks clearly know more than enough to demand that kind of returns. Just seen how he nailed draft on ping pong clowns. These guys be on the phone with each other more than enough to know thing or two.

Brown and his camp already said all the right words and leak it for JB betterment. Thinking this news didn't do any damage and something wasn't broiling is beyond laughable. Have to be some real naive clown. Media just didn't give Scal words enough weight, there's clearly something going on.