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Post#961 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:05 pm

The more that I think about it, here's my final counter:

Brown, Smart, G. Williams, 2 1sts + 1 swap for KD + Seth, who is expiring.
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Post#962 » by Stone » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:13 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:The more that I think about it, here's my final counter:

Brown, Smart, G. Williams, 2 1sts + 1 swap for KD + Seth, who is expiring.


I'd be okay with that
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Post#963 » by Paradise » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:14 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:The more that I think about it, here's my final counter:

Brown, Smart, G. Williams, 2 1sts + 1 swap for KD + Seth, who is expiring.

No to Seth being included. We’re adding less shooting and worse spacing.
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Post#964 » by GTR11 » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:18 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:The more that I think about it, here's my final counter:

Brown, Smart, G. Williams, 2 1sts + 1 swap for KD + Seth, who is expiring.

Notice how Indy and San An sitting quietly with all the cap space out there. There's something going on, i wouldn't be surprised if Collins and Robinson news will pick up at some point.
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Post#965 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:18 pm

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And yet nearly a month has gone by and we don’t know Ingram has ever been offered. It’s actually never been reported anywhere he’s been offered. It’s been talked about as a player that would get a deal done but never anywhere that he’s been offered. Brown is actually being offered. That’s the difference. It’s not hypothetical it’s actually on the table. Can u say the same about Ingram?

Also for all the talk of browns contract - it hasn’t stopped you from saying from day 1 that’s who you want so clearly it’s not a huge deal breaker for you.


I don't know why youre so confident everything being offered is reported. Most of the time its not.

If there is a leak there is a reason for it.

It has been reported that NO is interested. And Windhorst has said he thinks the Pelicans could offer Ingram if pressed.

Yes I do want Brown. But he alone is not enough value for KD. We need more pieces.


I’m only confident that the Celtics offered brown. Doesn’t mean Durant’s even traded or if he is to Boston. Woj, shams, Stein, windy, and mark murphy and Steve bulpett 2 plugged in Celtics guys basically confirmed Jaylen is on the table. Doesn’t matter when. the news is he’s offered at all.

Personally I think the nets leaked this to get other teams to up their offers as they should and that’s the reason there’s a leak- because the nets haven’t been offered what they want yet. Windy can hint all he wants that ingrams on the table but it hasn’t ever actually been reported that he has. So it’s all rumor. I’m going by what’s actually a real deal.

I know Boston is not some destination at all but I have real doubts that KD would wanna basically attach his championship window to Zion Williamson’s knee and eating habits. In Boston at least we know Durant has relationships with Tatum, ime and horford. And where KD wants to go will have SOME effect in this. It will matter in some regard for sure. If phx and Miami can’t get a deal done that matters.


I'm not doubting the Celtics offer.

I'm doubting that New Orleans wouldn't want to offer Ingram.

KD probably doesn't want to go to New Orleans I agree. But I don't think he wants to go to Boston either. He clearly wants Phoenix or Miami. Boston doesn't seem to me to be a market that would appeal to KD off the court.

This clearly isn't just about contending. If so, the current Nets team on paper could easily compete for a title.

Ultimately we will send KD where we get the best offer. Unless he at age 34 would seriously threaten to sit out the place hes traded. Unlikely.

KD's only way ti push back would be to rescind his trade request.
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Post#966 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:20 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:The more that I think about it, here's my final counter:

Brown, Smart, G. Williams, 2 1sts + 1 swap for KD + Seth, who is expiring.

No to Seth being included. We’re adding less shooting and worse spacing.


I think it balances out getting a dog like Smart though, and Grant Williams gives us a much needed stretch 4. We still have Patty, Harris, Royce, Warren who can all shoot. If Kyrie stays, thats another.

I feel you on that though. Having a surplus of shooters around Simmons and Brown is ideal.
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Post#967 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:23 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:The more that I think about it, here's my final counter:

Brown, Smart, G. Williams, 2 1sts + 1 swap for KD + Seth, who is expiring.


3 1sts. And they can have Mills instead of Seth.

No sense at all in backing down.
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Post#968 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:28 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:The more that I think about it, here's my final counter:

Brown, Smart, G. Williams, 2 1sts + 1 swap for KD + Seth, who is expiring.


That’s exactly how Marks shouldn’t think , you going wrong direction, no Seth and more picks and swaps our way

Brown Smart ,Grant , 2 1sts + 3 swaps for KD only , we can include a wheelchair, Billy King them fookers
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Post#969 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:35 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:The more that I think about it, here's my final counter:

Brown, Smart, G. Williams, 2 1sts + 1 swap for KD + Seth, who is expiring.


3 1sts. And they can have Mills instead of Seth.

No sense at all in backing down.


My only thinking is that Seth will walk for nothing next summer anyway.

I really just want KD gone. I'm sick of him.
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Post#970 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:41 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:The more that I think about it, here's my final counter:

Brown, Smart, G. Williams, 2 1sts + 1 swap for KD + Seth, who is expiring.


3 1sts. And they can have Mills instead of Seth.

No sense at all in backing down.


My only thinking is that Seth will walk for nothing next summer anyway.

I really just want KD gone. I'm sick of him.


Why?

Team will be cheaper and good. I would want to resign him.
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Post#971 » by Born_Ready » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:41 pm

If I am Marks I am still holding out. He has ALL the leverage. If Boston wants to get back to the finals they are going to have to give Sean what he wants. If not, well, Kevin, we tried, back to work.

Getting back to the finals is no cakewalk, just ask the Suns and Bucks. So if Boston wants to repeat they better ante up the players and picks or things will stall again.
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Post#972 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:48 pm

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3 1sts. And they can have Mills instead of Seth.

No sense at all in backing down.


My only thinking is that Seth will walk for nothing next summer anyway.

I really just want KD gone. I'm sick of him.


Why?

Team will be cheaper and good. I would want to resign him.


If I'm Seth Curry, I'm only staying if Brooklyn pays me what someone else wouldn't. Otherwise, I'd leave this mess as fast as possible.
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Post#973 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:49 pm

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My only thinking is that Seth will walk for nothing next summer anyway.

I really just want KD gone. I'm sick of him.


Why?

Team will be cheaper and good. I would want to resign him.


If I'm Seth Curry, I'm only staying if Brooklyn pays me what someone else wouldn't. Otherwise, I'd leave this mess as fast as possible.


Could be a whole new world after next year.

We have his bird rights and will have an exciting young team around Brown-Simmons.
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Post#974 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:50 pm

I gotta be honest guys my perception of Durant's value is all but in the toilet.

Yes, he's a great player. Super efficient.

He also has a garbage attitude, doesn't want to be coached, he's a terrible locker room leader, and on top of that, he has had significant leg injuries since he got here. He also sucked in the playoffs and that performance in itself to me was a massive red flag.

To me, getting a young guy like Brown to pair with another young guy like Simmons is more ideal than having to walk on egg shells around KD's bitch ass. Any team that takes KD back in a trade is taking a massive risk, and I think teams realize that.
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Post#975 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:50 pm

Born_Ready wrote:If I am Marks I am still holding out. He has ALL the leverage. If Boston wants to get back to the finals they are going to have to give Sean what he wants. If not, well, Kevin, we tried, back to work.

Getting back to the finals is no cakewalk, just ask the Suns and Bucks. So if Boston wants to repeat they better ante up the players and picks or things will stall again.


Celtics chemistry might be shot after these leaks.

Brown-Tatum combo has probably run its course.

I am taking nothing less than everything we want.
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Post#976 » by Born_Ready » Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:56 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Born_Ready wrote:If I am Marks I am still holding out. He has ALL the leverage. If Boston wants to get back to the finals they are going to have to give Sean what he wants. If not, well, Kevin, we tried, back to work.

Getting back to the finals is no cakewalk, just ask the Suns and Bucks. So if Boston wants to repeat they better ante up the players and picks or things will stall again.


Celtics chemistry might be shot after these leaks.

Brown-Tatum combo has probably run its course.

I am taking nothing less than everything we want.


Yep. My sentiments exactly. I think if Marks does like Daryl Morey did with Ben Simmons, wait it out, things might be more favorable if they want to make a deal in my opinion.
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Post#977 » by MGrand15 » Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:21 pm

The Celtics just made the Finals. Their locker room is fine even if Jaylen is mad. That team isn't thin skinned and soft.
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Post#978 » by JKiddy » Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:41 pm

We wouldn't be focused on White, it would be Brown + Smart + filler + picks.
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Post#979 » by GTR11 » Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:00 pm

MGrand15 wrote:The Celtics just made the Finals. Their locker room is fine even if Jaylen is mad. That team isn't thin skinned and soft.

Good, this is what will make this season more entertaining for entire league. There's no love lost between BK, Saltics, Craptors and Philthy, it'll have more meanings to these games now.

BSPN and TNT will be stupid not to show every single game nationwide and stirring up things. It'll get Bucks and Miami to play with purpose too.

AFC and Eastern Conference this year will be a must watch TV. A lot of drama will unfold
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Post#980 » by gigantes » Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:20 pm

Here's another side of the coin--

Does anyone... I mean ANYONE here believe that we're still a finals team, with or without the upcoming trade(s)?

So FFS, why not just let go of that rope, and get back to good team-building, right?

Why not skew the upcoming Durant & Kyrie trades moreso in terms of future capital, and less-so upon needing a 'star' player in return?

I mean.. we're not going anywhere soon, we'll be a decent team either way, so why not think about the future, yeah?

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