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Re: Celtics "Bench Mob" (2nd Unit) 2022 = Pritchard - White - Nesmith - G. Williams - Theis 

Post#141 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:38 pm

From Bulpett's latest article.

A Western Conference coach wondered to Heavy how much room there’ll be for Payton Pritchard. He didn’t play a lot early last season, as Dennis Schroder took the most backup minutes at guard, but Pritchard stepped up after Schroder was traded.

“I’ve been watching him for a long time,” the coach said. “Payton Pritchard is T.J. McConnell with a jump shot, and that’s the guy you want on your team.

“He was that guy that people always said wasn’t big enough, wasn’t fast enough, not athletic enough. But nobody figured out that he’s got huge balls and is skilled. I love the kid. I’m just interested to see how he fits there if Brogdon and (Derrick) White take up most of the (backcourt) time off the bench.”


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Post#142 » by Half-Full » Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:28 pm

TJ McConnell with a jump shot (and a better 3-point shot). Pretty good description. I think Payton is worthy of TJ McConnell minutes (20-25min/game). I doubt he will see that, but still worthy IMO.
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Post#143 » by Parliament10 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:43 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:From Bulpett's latest article.

A Western Conference coach wondered to Heavy how much room there’ll be for Payton Pritchard. He didn’t play a lot early last season, as Dennis Schroder took the most backup minutes at guard, but Pritchard stepped up after Schroder was traded.

“I’ve been watching him for a long time,” the coach said. “Payton Pritchard is T.J. McConnell with a jump shot, and that’s the guy you want on your team.

“He was that guy that people always said wasn’t big enough, wasn’t fast enough, not athletic enough. But nobody figured out that he’s got huge balls and is skilled. I love the kid. I’m just interested to see how he fits there if Brogdon and (Derrick) White take up most of the (backcourt) time off the bench.”


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I do wonder about having 4 capable PG's, and only 2 capable Centers.
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Post#144 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:27 pm

Half-Full wrote:TJ McConnell with a jump shot (and a better 3-point shot). Pretty good description. I think Payton is worthy of TJ McConnell minutes (20-25min/game). I doubt he will see that, but still worthy IMO.

TJ McConnell is a savvy ballhandler and a good passer. He can penetrate and create problems, and run the fast break. He's also a poor three-point shooter and has great court awareness on defense making him a steal threat. Other than being small and white, Payton Pritchard is nothing like TJ McConnell.
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Post#145 » by Half-Full » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:40 pm

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Half-Full wrote:TJ McConnell with a jump shot (and a better 3-point shot). Pretty good description. I think Payton is worthy of TJ McConnell minutes (20-25min/game). I doubt he will see that, but still worthy IMO.

TJ McConnell is a savvy ballhandler and a good passer. He can penetrate and create problems, and run the fast break. He's also a poor three-point shooter and has great court awareness on defense making him a steal threat. Other than being small and white, Payton Pritchard is nothing like TJ McConnell.


He hasn't been asked (allowed?) to do more. He won the Bob Cousy award for best PG his senior year at Oregon. The fact is that Pritchard has not been given a role as PG for the most part. He is a PG, though, and ALL the things you say TJ McConnell can do, so can Payton. There is video evidence to support my view.



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Post#146 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:51 pm

Half-Full wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
Half-Full wrote:TJ McConnell with a jump shot (and a better 3-point shot). Pretty good description. I think Payton is worthy of TJ McConnell minutes (20-25min/game). I doubt he will see that, but still worthy IMO.

TJ McConnell is a savvy ballhandler and a good passer. He can penetrate and create problems, and run the fast break. He's also a poor three-point shooter and has great court awareness on defense making him a steal threat. Other than being small and white, Payton Pritchard is nothing like TJ McConnell.


He hasn't been asked (allowed?) to do more. He won the Bob Cousy award for best PG his senior year at Oregon. The fact is that Pritchard has not been given a role as PG for the most part. He is a PG, though, and ALL the things you say TJ McConnell can do, so can Payton. There is video evidence to support my view.

McConnell's been doing his thing for years in the NBA against NBA competition. Pritchard has not. In fact in his two years he has shown that he absolutely does not have what it takes to be a playmaker. He can't get by defenders because he lacks burst. He can't keep his head up and make good passes because he's barely dribbling without losing the ball. He doesn't make high value passes. He's not a threat in any of the three levels to score because he can't get a shot off.
What he does is make wide open threes, sometimes help bring the ball up and pass the ball quickly without turning it over a lot.
He's not asked to do more than that because he can't, not because the Boston Celtics just don't like him.
When he does handle the ball, 90% of the time he just dribbles it right back out.
TJ McConnell with Payton Pritchard's 3 point shot would be a really good player. TJ McConnell with Payton Pritchard's shot without any of the things that TJ McConnell does well is just Payton Pritchard and not a very good player.
Pro-Am is probably the best fit for him. The only reason he has an NBA career is because Ainge made a mistake.
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Post#149 » by ballup » Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:46 pm

Half-Full wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
Half-Full wrote:TJ McConnell with a jump shot (and a better 3-point shot). Pretty good description. I think Payton is worthy of TJ McConnell minutes (20-25min/game). I doubt he will see that, but still worthy IMO.

TJ McConnell is a savvy ballhandler and a good passer. He can penetrate and create problems, and run the fast break. He's also a poor three-point shooter and has great court awareness on defense making him a steal threat. Other than being small and white, Payton Pritchard is nothing like TJ McConnell.


He hasn't been asked (allowed?) to do more. He won the Bob Cousy award for best PG his senior year at Oregon. The fact is that Pritchard has not been given a role as PG for the most part. He is a PG, though, and ALL the things you say TJ McConnell can do, so can Payton. There is video evidence to support my view.



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High school clips don't mean much in the pros. Every pro looked like a star in HS.

McConnell is a much better slasher as he can get to the rim more consistently than Pritchard and finish better. The playmaking is divides apart too. Pritchard is more similar to an early bench Fred VanVleet than McConnell in terms of style.

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Post#150 » by Half-Full » Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:08 am

ballup wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:TJ McConnell is a savvy ballhandler and a good passer. He can penetrate and create problems, and run the fast break. He's also a poor three-point shooter and has great court awareness on defense making him a steal threat. Other than being small and white, Payton Pritchard is nothing like TJ McConnell.


He hasn't been asked (allowed?) to do more. He won the Bob Cousy award for best PG his senior year at Oregon. The fact is that Pritchard has not been given a role as PG for the most part. He is a PG, though, and ALL the things you say TJ McConnell can do, so can Payton. There is video evidence to support my view.



;t=470s

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High school clips don't mean much in the pros. Every pro looked like a star in HS.

McConnell is a much better slasher as he can get to the rim more consistently than Pritchard and finish better. The playmaking is divides apart too. Pritchard is more similar to an early bench Fred VanVleet than McConnell in terms of style.

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Come on! These were not high school clips. One was from Payton's senior year at Oregon, and the other two were season highlights from the last two seasons. You know, when Payton was playing for the Celtics. You can disagree with my opinion, but It's disingenuous to categorize the videos as "high school clips."
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Post#151 » by 165bows » Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:51 am

BK_2020 wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:TJ McConnell is a savvy ballhandler and a good passer. He can penetrate and create problems, and run the fast break. He's also a poor three-point shooter and has great court awareness on defense making him a steal threat. Other than being small and white, Payton Pritchard is nothing like TJ McConnell.


He hasn't been asked (allowed?) to do more. He won the Bob Cousy award for best PG his senior year at Oregon. The fact is that Pritchard has not been given a role as PG for the most part. He is a PG, though, and ALL the things you say TJ McConnell can do, so can Payton. There is video evidence to support my view.

McConnell's been doing his thing for years in the NBA against NBA competition. Pritchard has not. In fact in his two years he has shown that he absolutely does not have what it takes to be a playmaker. He can't get by defenders because he lacks burst. He can't keep his head up and make good passes because he's barely dribbling without losing the ball. He doesn't make high value passes. He's not a threat in any of the three levels to score because he can't get a shot off.
What he does is make wide open threes, sometimes help bring the ball up and pass the ball quickly without turning it over a lot.
He's not asked to do more than that because he can't, not because the Boston Celtics just don't like him.
When he does handle the ball, 90% of the time he just dribbles it right back out.
TJ McConnell with Payton Pritchard's 3 point shot would be a really good player. TJ McConnell with Payton Pritchard's shot without any of the things that TJ McConnell does well is just Payton Pritchard and not a very good player.
Pro-Am is probably the best fit for him. The only reason he has an NBA career is because Ainge made a mistake.

TJ McConnell has the highest turn over rate in the entire league and has never sniffed Pritchard’s per-minute scoring volume even though he’s the primary ball handler.

Why people are obsessed with these mediocre *** pacers players. Boston just landed their best player and he’s coming off the bench here.
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Post#152 » by neno » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:21 am

Pritchard a better eddie house
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Post#153 » by Hal14 » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:46 pm

Half-Full wrote:TJ McConnell with a jump shot (and a better 3-point shot). Pretty good description. I think Payton is worthy of TJ McConnell minutes (20-25min/game). I doubt he will see that, but still worthy IMO.

TJ McConnel is on a really bad team though. Now with a full season of Haliburton and a PG they just drafted and gave a 4 yr contract to already (the largest rookie contract for a 2nd round pick in NBA history) he might not get that type of playing time anymore.

If McConnel was on this celtics team he'd be the 10th best player, just like pritchard is..
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Post#154 » by Hal14 » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:51 pm

neno wrote:Pritchard a better eddie house

i think you're underestimating House.

I think Pritchard can potentially end up being as good as House. He's not too far off. But he is not better IMO..

Pritchard was in and out of the rotation throughout the season. In the playoffs he was hot and cold, often times was hunted on switches. And was a complete non-factor in the NBA finals. Compare that to House, who was in the rotation all year when we won the 2008 title, he was much more consistent (in both reg season and in playoffs), he was much less of a defensively liability and he performed well in the NBA finals.
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Post#155 » by ballup » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:07 pm

Half-Full wrote:
ballup wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
He hasn't been asked (allowed?) to do more. He won the Bob Cousy award for best PG his senior year at Oregon. The fact is that Pritchard has not been given a role as PG for the most part. He is a PG, though, and ALL the things you say TJ McConnell can do, so can Payton. There is video evidence to support my view.



;t=470s

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High school clips don't mean much in the pros. Every pro looked like a star in HS.

McConnell is a much better slasher as he can get to the rim more consistently than Pritchard and finish better. The playmaking is divides apart too. Pritchard is more similar to an early bench Fred VanVleet than McConnell in terms of style.

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Come on! These were not high school clips. One was from Payton's senior year at Oregon, and the other two were season highlights from the last two seasons. You know, when Payton was playing for the Celtics. You can disagree with my opinion, but It's disingenuous to categorize the videos as "high school clips."


Apologies. I saw the word senior and assumed they were high school clips.

Regardless, equating the two players is silly as their games are very different

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Post#156 » by neno » Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:59 pm

Hal14 wrote:
neno wrote:Pritchard a better eddie house

i think you're underestimating House.

I think Pritchard can potentially end up being as good as House. He's not too far off. But he is not better IMO..

Pritchard was in and out of the rotation throughout the season. In the playoffs he was hot and cold, often times was hunted on switches. And was a complete non-factor in the NBA finals. Compare that to House, who was in the rotation all year when we won the 2008 title, he was much more consistent (in both reg season and in playoffs), he was much less of a defensively liability and he performed well in the NBA finals.

Really you think? Idk but Eddie house couldn't dribble under pressure Lindsay hunter made Sam Cassell come off the bench just to bring the ball up Eddie house was a shooter and Pritchard is a better shooter
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Post#157 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:20 am

neno wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
neno wrote:Pritchard a better eddie house

i think you're underestimating House.

I think Pritchard can potentially end up being as good as House. He's not too far off. But he is not better IMO..

Pritchard was in and out of the rotation throughout the season. In the playoffs he was hot and cold, often times was hunted on switches. And was a complete non-factor in the NBA finals. Compare that to House, who was in the rotation all year when we won the 2008 title, he was much more consistent (in both reg season and in playoffs), he was much less of a defensively liability and he performed well in the NBA finals.

Really you think? Idk but Eddie house couldn't dribble under pressure Lindsay hunter made Sam Cassell come off the bench just to bring the ball up Eddie house was a shooter and Pritchard is a better shooter

In an empty gym, maybe. Pritchard is not so good at shooting when other humans are trying to stop him from shooting.
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Post#158 » by neno » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:38 am

BK_2020 wrote:
neno wrote:
Hal14 wrote:i think you're underestimating House.

I think Pritchard can potentially end up being as good as House. He's not too far off. But he is not better IMO..

Pritchard was in and out of the rotation throughout the season. In the playoffs he was hot and cold, often times was hunted on switches. And was a complete non-factor in the NBA finals. Compare that to House, who was in the rotation all year when we won the 2008 title, he was much more consistent (in both reg season and in playoffs), he was much less of a defensively liability and he performed well in the NBA finals.

Really you think? Idk but Eddie house couldn't dribble under pressure Lindsay hunter made Sam Cassell come off the bench just to bring the ball up Eddie house was a shooter and Pritchard is a better shooter

In an empty gym, maybe. Pritchard is not so good at shooting when other humans are trying to stop him from shooting.

Payton Pritchard 4yr college stats
Fg% 437. 3pt fg% 379 ft%800

Eddie house 4 yr college stats
Fg%42.5 3pt fg%366 ft%79.8

House first 2 yrs nba
Fg%421 3pt fg%34.5 ft%77.2

Pritchard first 2 yrs
Fg%435 3pt fg% 421 ft%92.4
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Post#159 » by playa-hater » Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:31 pm

Hal14 wrote:
neno wrote:Pritchard a better eddie house

i think you're underestimating House.

I think Pritchard can potentially end up being as good as House. He's not too far off. But he is not better IMO..

Pritchard was in and out of the rotation throughout the season. In the playoffs he was hot and cold, often times was hunted on switches. And was a complete non-factor in the NBA finals. Compare that to House, who was in the rotation all year when we won the 2008 title, he was much more consistent (in both reg season and in playoffs), he was much less of a defensively liability and he performed well in the NBA finals.


Can be better is the understatement of the year. PP can do whatever House can do and add more creativity. a steady role a PP Blows One dimensional House away. House was also a veteran while PP in his second year with a new coach who cut off his balls throughout the year..

IN MY OPINION, when it is all said and done PP will be way better than House. Probably not in Boston.
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Post#160 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:31 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
neno wrote:Pritchard a better eddie house

i think you're underestimating House.

I think Pritchard can potentially end up being as good as House. He's not too far off. But he is not better IMO..

Pritchard was in and out of the rotation throughout the season. In the playoffs he was hot and cold, often times was hunted on switches. And was a complete non-factor in the NBA finals. Compare that to House, who was in the rotation all year when we won the 2008 title, he was much more consistent (in both reg season and in playoffs), he was much less of a defensively liability and he performed well in the NBA finals.


Can be better is the understatement of the year. PP can do whatever House can do and add more creativity. a steady role a PP Blows One dimensional House away. House was also a veteran while PP in his second year with a new coach who cut off his balls throughout the year..

IN MY OPINION, when it is all said and done PP will be way better than House. Probably not in Boston.

Eddie House had 38.5 vertical leap. can PP do that? lmao.

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