Are the Knicks even better than the Pistons?

cgf · Post #41 » by **cgf** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:56 pm

jasonxxx102 wrote:Seems like hyperbole. The Knicks have a clearly more talented roster, they will win more games this season but have no future.

This season Knicks are clearly better but not looking out 2+ years

Eh, our future is a question mark. We don't have a Cade, but with only 4 players on the roster over 24yo...Brunson (25), Randle (26), Fournier (29), & Rose (33)...all of their own picks, and 4 protected 1sts from Dallas, Detroit, Milwaukee, & Washington; the knicks have the ammo to trade for a player of that caliber if they are patient and find the right guy; or if they can take further steps in that direction while maintaining enough ammo to someday make their own version of the Kawhi-trade.

BostonCouchGM · Post #42 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:57 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
Wallace_Wallace wrote:I would take Cade Cunningham, Jaden Ivey & Saddiq Bey with young beasts like Isaiah Stewart & Jalen Duren. Thanks!

Beef Stew is so overrated. Dude is an undersized center. That wants to shoot 3s yet not a great shooter. Duran is an unknown. Cade and Bey should improve. Ivey is a rookie.

When the Mavs had Brunson he was a rising young player. Now that he’s on the Knicks , he’s an overrated player and not that good according to the GB.

last couple of months of last season and through this year's Summer League, Stewart has been playing the 4 more and has shot 50% from three on volume. It wouldn't surprise me if he's the starting 4 from now on tbh.

BostonCouchGM · Post #43 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:57 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
Wallace_Wallace wrote:I would take Cade Cunningham, Jaden Ivey & Saddiq Bey with young beasts like Isaiah Stewart & Jalen Duren. Thanks!

Beef Stew is so overrated. Dude is an undersized center. That wants to shoot 3s yet not a great shooter. Duran is an unknown. Cade and Bey should improve. Ivey is a rookie.

When the Mavs had Brunson he was a rising young player. Now that he’s on the Knicks , he’s an overrated player and not that good according to the GB.

last couple of months of last season and through this year's Summer League, Stewart has been playing the 4 more and has shot 50% from three on volume. It wouldn't surprise me if he's the starting 4 from now on tbh.

Bulliever2020 · Post #44 » by **Bulliever2020** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:00 pm

This is a silly thread. Pistons have an amazingly bright future but they are way too young. Knicks will be 10+ games better next year.

dautjazz · Post #45 » by **dautjazz** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:15 pm

Apparently the Knicks/Jazz trade talks have fizzled, so stop assuming he'll be a Knicks.

ShootersShoot · Post #46 » by **ShootersShoot** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:25 pm

formula 400 wrote:
Clyde Frazier wrote:
formula 400 wrote:hell no, Det has dope young rookies. knicks have barret and randle and no one else. oh yeah fournier

What.

well what do heck do you have? brunson? what has he done

Averaged 20ppg on a wcf playoff run..what has any player on the pistons done?

TwitterFingers · Post #47 » by **TwitterFingers** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:31 pm

aad wrote:I’m just saying they haven’t improved much on paper and the pistons roster just looks better on paper

They lost some depth too
Noel
Burks
Walker
Gibson

The Knicks got Brunson and Harkenstien. If they add Spida we’re talking a very good team. The pistons are too young at this point

adjacent2bench · Post #48 » by **adjacent2bench** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:33 pm

Got tired of the Knicks always being in the news so proceeded to passive aggressively diss them on RealGM.

BlackThought · Post #49 » by **BlackThought** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:57 pm

I think next year the Knicks will be better, especially if they acquire Mitchell. Pistons are just too young, I don't see them winning more than 30 games next year.

iLLmatic860 · Post #50 » by **iLLmatic860** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:48 pm

My question to Piston fans, you guys have a very bright future. Skies the limits, but why are you even thinking about the Knicks out of all teams?

JujitsuFlip · Post #51 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:23 am

Off-season isn't over yet... Knicks potentially have a 3x All-Star headed their way.

tundraknight · Post #52 » by **tundraknight** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:29 am

Maybe not right off the bat better but I’d take the Pistons young core 10 times out of 10 in terms of building for the future.

The roster difference comes from tanking vs treadmilling.

Rockazoids · Post #53 » by **Rockazoids** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:52 am

j-ragg wrote:Treadmill team versus up and coming team that just drafted 3 lotto rotation guys? The Knicks should probably be better, they shouldn’t want to be though.

Treadmill team? What do you call your ORL Magic team? 3 PO wins in 10 yrs, talking about treadmill. :wink:

MotownMadness · Post #54 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:19 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:My question to Piston fans, you guys have a very bright future. Skies the limits, but why are you even thinking about the Knicks out of all teams?

You mean thats a question for one Piston fan who started the thread. I don't ever even think about Knicks (not cause they're that bad) but i just don't see where the two teams are even relevant at this point in their timelines.

DaGawd · Post #55 » by **DaGawd** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:22 am

MotownMadness wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:My question to Piston fans, you guys have a very bright future. Skies the limits, but why are you even thinking about the Knicks out of all teams?

You mean thats a question for one Piston fan who started the thread. I don't ever even think about Knicks (not cause they're that bad) but i just don't see where the two teams are even relevant at this point in their timelines.

i know if i was a pistons fan i’d look at the knicks as that team on the bubble of maybe making the playoffs and i’d wonder how we match up with so the young talent we have accumulating so i guess i don’t blame him.

JRoy · Post #56 » by **JRoy** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:53 am

cgf wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:Seems like hyperbole. The Knicks have a clearly more talented roster, they will win more games this season but have no future.

This season Knicks are clearly better but not looking out 2+ years

Eh, our future is a question mark. We don't have a Cade, but with only 4 players on the roster over 24yo...Brunson (25), Randle (26), Fournier (29), & Rose (33)...all of their own picks, and 4 protected 1sts from Dallas, Detroit, Milwaukee, & Washington; the knicks have the ammo to trade for a player of that caliber if they are patient and find the right guy; or if they can take further steps in that direction while maintaining enough ammo to someday make their own version of the Kawhi-trade.

The next time NYK are patient and wait for the right guy will be the first time.

chrbal · Post #57 » by **chrbal** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:10 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:My question to Piston fans, you guys have a very bright future. Skies the limits, but why are you even thinking about the Knicks out of all teams?

I’m sadly just realizing this was posted by a Piston fan.
If people want to do a brighter future type thread among a bunch of teams find, but it’s weird to pick on New York

Optms · Post #58 » by **Optms** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:21 am

SearsTower wrote:Pistons might be a surprise team in the East this year.

chilluminati · Post #59 » by **chilluminati** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:30 am

I won't be delusional, it's still the Knicks. But the Knicks definitely will suck, and the Pistons will definitely become substantially better. If you started this thread at this same time in 2023, I'd probably agree.

Bob Ross · Post #60 » by **Bob Ross** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 3:02 am

Wtf kind of thread is this? A f*ck the Knicks thread?