Greatest Peaks Project (2022): #13 - 2020-21 Giannis Antetokounmpo

[AEnigma]

Maybe if you count people who already voted for Robinson on their original ballot.

[LA Bird]

After the runoff started, I count four runoff votes for Giannis, and FIVE for Robinson.

Here are the results for round 13

Winner: 21 Antetokounmpo

f4p vote Giannis (1, 0, 0)
Dutchball had already voted for Giannis (no change)
Colbinii vote Robinson (1, 0, 1)
falcolombardi vote Giannis (2, 0, 1)
mdonnelly1989 had already voted for Oscar (no change)
MyUniBroDavis vote Giannis (3, 0, 1)
capfan33 had already voted for Robinson (no change)
Doctor MJ vote Giannis (4, 0, 1)
trex_8063 had already voted for Robinson (no change)
ardee vote Oscar (4, 1, 1)
trelos had already voted for Robinson (no change)
SickMother vote Giannis (5, 1, 1)
letskissbro vote Robinson (5, 1, 2)
eminence vote Oscar (5, 2, 2)

Tiebreaker
Antetokounmpo: 5 (f4p, falcolombardi, MyUniBroDavis, Doctor MJ, SickMother)
Robertson: 2 (ardee, eminence)
Robinson: 2 (Colbinii, letskissbro)

[eminence]

Is that george mikan defending him?

lol, I think you're right. Funny to me that that wasn't specified by the source and that I didn't notice it.

The man in question seems too short to be Mikan - Tatum was 7 inches shorter than Mikan - but Mikan's face is pretty dang distinctive with those glasses, and the man in question is not standing for maximum height, so it's probably him.

Also, as I look at the source, they say that this was 1952, and the Globetrotters did lay the Lakers in 1952. The Lakers won 84-60, their 5th straight win over the Globetrotters after losing their first two in the '40s.

I'm not certain that's really from a Trotters/Lakers game, I've never seen Minneapolis in those shorts before and it doesn't appear to say Lakers on the front of the jersey (did they ever have Minneapolis jerseys?). It certainly doesn't match their normal home or away jerseys of the era.

Edit: I know they had the MPLS jerseys, but that doesn't appear to be that either, lettering is very small.

Some footage from their 1949 game to get a size estimate:

Watch on YouTube

It could be a game from the 'legendary' Trotters vs George Mikan Allstars games in Honolulu '48? Which I've never seen footage of (doubt it exists) and have no idea who was on Mikans teams other than Mikan himself.

[DraymondGold]

After the runoff started, I count four runoff votes for Giannis, and FIVE for Robinson.

Here are the results for round 13

Winner: 21 Antetokounmpo

f4p vote Giannis (1, 0, 0)
Dutchball had already voted for Giannis (no change)
Colbinii vote Robinson (1, 0, 1)
falcolombardi vote Giannis (2, 0, 1)
mdonnelly1989 had already voted for Oscar (no change)
MyUniBroDavis vote Giannis (3, 0, 1)
capfan33 had already voted for Robinson (no change)
Doctor MJ vote Giannis (4, 0, 1)
trex_8063 had already voted for Robinson (no change)
ardee vote Oscar (4, 1, 1)
trelos had already voted for Robinson (no change)
SickMother vote Giannis (5, 1, 1)
letskissbro vote Robinson (5, 1, 2)
eminence vote Oscar (5, 2, 2)

Tiebreaker
Antetokounmpo: 5 (f4p, falcolombardi, MyUniBroDavis, Doctor MJ, SickMother)
Robertson: 2 (ardee, eminence)
Robinson: 2 (Colbinii, letskissbro)

Edit:

Even if you did count those votes, it would still be tied 5-5 Robinson Giannis, not a Robinson victory (Dutchball's reads more like a vote for Oscar to me, saying he already voted for Giannis and so wouldn't vote twice).
So I guess under the 2nd-round tiebreaker rule, you'd start discounting the most recent votes first, which would discount eminence's vote for Robertson, then letskissbro's vote for Robinson (so Antetokounmpo would still win).

[AEnigma]

Do you guys get how these tiebreakers work.

EDIT: This was a sarcastic “question”. It obviously makes no sense to assume that a tie would be broken by people reiterating an already counted vote.

Maybe if you count people who already voted for Robinson on their original ballot.

[trex_8063]

After the runoff started, I count four runoff votes for Giannis, and FIVE for Robinson.

Here are the results for round 13

Winner: 21 Antetokounmpo

f4p vote Giannis (1, 0, 0)
Dutchball had already voted for Giannis (no change)
Colbinii vote Robinson (1, 0, 1)
falcolombardi vote Giannis (2, 0, 1)
mdonnelly1989 had already voted for Oscar (no change)
MyUniBroDavis vote Giannis (3, 0, 1)
capfan33 had already voted for Robinson (no change)
Doctor MJ vote Giannis (4, 0, 1)
trex_8063 had already voted for Robinson (no change)
ardee vote Oscar (4, 1, 1)
trelos had already voted for Robinson (no change)
SickMother vote Giannis (5, 1, 1)
letskissbro vote Robinson (5, 1, 2)
eminence vote Oscar (5, 2, 2)

Tiebreaker
Antetokounmpo: 5 (f4p, falcolombardi, MyUniBroDavis, Doctor MJ, SickMother)
Robertson: 2 (ardee, eminence)
Robinson: 2 (Colbinii, letskissbro)

I guess I'm confused by how the year designated works into the counting. My apologies for not participating early on to get a feel for things.

I voted for '95 Robinson, but that got rolled into '94 Robinson sort of automatically; is that right?

Does that only happen because I had (parenthetical) "'94" noted beside my ballot? Like if I'd stated '95 only, it wouldn't automatically transfer to '94?

EDIT: Nevermind. I think I got it now. Sorry for the derail.

[SickMother]

Do you guys get how these tiebreakers work.

If I'm understanding what LA Bird posted it looks like there were 14 tiebreaker votes cast.

Of those 14, five had already voted for one of the three players on their original ballot, listed as (no change)

Of the remaining nine tiebreaker votes who did not list Giannis, Oscar or Admiral on their original ballots the split was Giannis (5), Oscar (2) and Admiral (2), so Giannis won the tiebreaker.

[LukaTheGOAT]

I haven't voted yet, and don't intend to regularly, but if you still need a tiebreaker when you next go to count I'll go with '64 Oscar here. These two bigs I think have relevant enough PO offense issues for me to bump them just a little bit lower down the list. Oscar I think still has an okay case for offensive GOAT in his prime (LeBron has probably left him behind for career value at this point), in particular I think it's overlooked that he has a case for best scorer in NBA history (not at peak, hail King Curry). I've never had any particular problems with Oscars D.

I'm just curious what would be his argument over Kareem or West as a scorer? Do you think he potentially had a more consistent scoring prime?